Job Seeker, 21, Kills Herself After She Was Rejected for 200 Jobs.

If she didn't get hired after 200 interviews, she should have re-evaluated her career path, instead of committing suicide.

Typical 20 something of my generation feel sorry for me i am entitled attitude I am sick of. People of my generation need to FIGURE IT OUT.

"I didn't get my way, so i'm going to kill my self" I have felt pretty damn low, and still do at times, but I always pick my self up, and FIGURE IT OUT.

My generation will be known as the lithium cry baby generation.

Originally posted by sicksonezer0
If she didn't get hired after 200 interviews, she should have re-evaluated her career path, instead of committing suicide.

Typical 20 something of my generation feel sorry for me i am entitled attitude I am sick of. People of my generation need to FIGURE IT OUT.

"I didn't get my way, so i'm going to kill my self" I have felt pretty damn low, and still do at times, but I always pick my self up, and FIGURE IT OUT.

My generation will be known as the lithium cry baby generation.

What have you "figured out" that your cohort has not?

Originally posted by sicksonezer0
If she didn't get hired after 200 interviews, she should have re-evaluated her career path, instead of committing suicide.

Typical 20 something of my generation feel sorry for me i am entitled attitude I am sick of. People of my generation need to FIGURE IT OUT.

"I didn't get my way, so i'm going to kill my self" I have felt pretty damn low, and still do at times, but I always pick my self up, and FIGURE IT OUT.

My generation will be known as the lithium cry baby generation.

You sound absolutely foolish. I feel sorry for you.

reply to post by votan


In my opinion, I think that everybody should start at the bottom. Nobody likes to have a boss that has no idea what they're going through, and nobody likes to have a boss who knows nothing about the business.

Oh poor me I cant become a rockstar so I'm going to kill myself.

Life is full of disappointment. Sometimes you have to work at McDonalds until that job you really want opens up. I dont feel sorry for these spoiled kids that think they should be handed a job the minute they graduate college.

Just another example of the cry baby entitlement generation and how they fail and will continue to fail at life. Just because you paid thousands of dollars for a college degree doesnt mean you deserve a good paying job or that you are entitled to your dream job.

Originally posted by sicksonezer0
If she didn't get hired after 200 interviews, she should have re-evaluated her career path, instead of committing suicide.

Typical 20 something of my generation feel sorry for me i am entitled attitude I am sick of. People of my generation need to FIGURE IT OUT.

"I didn't get my way, so i'm going to kill my self" I have felt pretty damn low, and still do at times, but I always pick my self up, and FIGURE IT OUT.

My generation will be known as the lithium cry baby generation.

Hmm...I agree to a certain extent ie suicide is never the answer. But, the attitude inherent in your argument ie to blame the victim will never help the person who's feeling so isolated & helpless in their situation. In fact it'll only aggravate their isolation & helplessness thus leading to dire actions like what this young girl did.

IMHO you can't even trust the job adverts as such, along with the jobless rate, is totally skewed. I know in Australia, for instance, the gov. mandates schools to advertise teacher positions when the contract is about to expire even though the person who's currently in the position will in all likelihood re-acquire that position. Thus, this creates the illusion that there's a demand for teachers when in fact it's bogus. IDK but this is akin to misleading advertising or fraud to me, but somehow it makes it ok if the gov. says to do it. I recall reading about 1 graduate teacher who applied for over 150 teacher positions before he finally got a 3 month contract at some remote school. He was very upset about the time & money wasted & I tend to agree. I mean, what's the point of going to college & wasting time & money if at the end of it you can't get a full-time job to support yourself and loved ones?! You may as well use the wasted money & time towards food, housing & looking for an actual job that exists!

Originally posted by Nicks87
...Life is full of disappointment. Sometimes you have to work at McDonalds until that job you really want opens up. I dont feel sorry for these spoiled kids that think they should be handed a job the minute they graduate college.

Just another example of the cry baby entitlement generation and how they fail and will continue to fail at life. Just because you paid thousands of dollars for a college degree doesnt mean you deserve a good paying job or that you are entitled to your dream job.

Again some of what you say is true ie life is full of disappointment & doesn't mean you should automatically resort to violence to solve the problem. I reckon what Dr. Phil once said is true that as a parent you have to teach your child 3 important things in preparing them for the real world: 1) Your child needs to experience mastery over the world. That means they need to see that they have the ability to make things happen. If I do A I get B. That’s a real empowering feeling; 2) They need to observe themselves recover from disappointment or failure. If they try something & it doesn’t work & they go "wow I bounced back!"; 3) They need to recognize the power of giving. I reckon that the younger they are in learning these lessons the better equiped they just might be at facing the joys and disappointments that life's rollercoaster brings.

& again what you said about paying for an over-priced degree doesn't entitle you to a high paying job I ask well what's the point of these colleges? I don't see why the gov. doesn't mandate colleges & unis to scrap courses that lead to no where at the end of it except a high debt load for the graduate~

reply to post by LittleByLittle

PS you misspelled specialized.

No, I didn't actually...that's the Americanised way of spelling...most words that end in "ised" the American spelling substitutes "z" for "s"

And it was many years ago that I worked as an electronics technical clerk, I don't do that now, nor would I go back to it as the aerospace industry in the UK is now full of temporary contracts where you can be working one day and out of work the next.

I also do admire your commitment to focus on your skills and abilities in a practical way, rather than "playing the game" of pandering to the boss's ego, but sometimes that is what is needed to get ahead. However, I don't know how long you have worked in your particular field, but I'm sure that being as dedicated excelling in your discipline and completing the task in hand, will at some point in the future, put you in a far better position, both in terms of remuneration and authority.

Peace

She should have started her own business. I think there's a market for a bad teacher fetish.

Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by LittleByLittle

 

"suicide is a sin is only stupid religious dogma",,so suicide is a optional alternative, in your view?

Depends on the situation. It is not a black and white thing. For some it is not an option, for some it is not them that is the problem but this place and they would have it better at another place.

I had a close friend who hanged himself for not finding his place in life when it came to work/education and not getting ahead with girls at all. I am not sure I have ever meet a person that was more giving to his friends and wanted everybody around him to laugh and be happy. I really miss not having that soul around but I cannot blame him for leaving.

I see every suicide as a collective error/system error in humanity. It proves that humans are not as civilized as we think we are. Make life precious and worth living and there will not be any suicides. I am glad for going thru this life for the lessons but that does not mean I would another life like this.

reply to post by destination now

And it was many years ago that I worked as an electronics technical clerk, I don't do that now, nor would I go back to it as the aerospace industry in the UK is now full of temporary contracts where you can be working one day and out of work the next.

Kinda have been thru the same thing in the energy sector.

I also do admire your commitment to focus on your skills and abilities in a practical way, rather than "playing the game" of pandering to the boss's ego, but sometimes that is what is needed to get ahead. However, I don't know how long you have worked in your particular field, but I'm sure that being as dedicated excelling in your discipline and completing the task in hand, will at some point in the future, put you in a far better position, both in terms of remuneration and authority. Peace

. I work now days in a team of self sufficient specialists that are in fact more friends than colleagues but have a few months leave to recuperate after an insane project ended.

Sometimes it is good getting resistance and not succeeding at all since it can show things about yourself that in the end will be more important than the material success. Some people have lives where to even stand still takes a lot of effort. People think they are stuck but can in fact be building up skills and will and strength that will be very useful for them in the future.

I do love to argue with you .
Do not take it personally soul sister. I only know the views you write and that does not tell me much about the real you.

The problem is most employers are looking for 20 year olds with 25 years experience.

I did an advanced IT course and that couldn't even get my foot in the door, I was deemed under qualified even for an apprenticeship!

The sad thing is that it's only going to get worse. More and more jobs are being taken over by computers or automatons. Down under dump truck drivers could be forced out of work because of Robotic dump trucks, and the rise of 3D printers will take manufacturing jobs as well.

So no matter how crap your job is, hang onto it because there aren't many left to go around.

There is plenty of work out there.

Maybe you think being a plumber, or a welder or a boilermaker is beneath you.

Truth is, they make damn good money. No, it's not NASA. No it's not glamorous. Yeah, you might get sweaty and dirty. It's not the office job you wanted. I get that.

Last time I was in Texas, they were offering $35 an hour for welders. Time and a half after 40 hours. If I didn't have a job that paid something similar, I would jump on it.

You know what the funny thing is? There are people that took out tens of thousands of dollars in student loans for degrees that don't mean anything. They'll be paying that # off the rest of their lives.

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


Did she live in Maine? I haven't been able to work since 2009, I too am at my breaking point. i dress nice and the interviews, i think, go very well. But nothing has come out of it. I am seriously giving up hope myself for any type of career in this life, also seriously thinking about quitting college! I honestly don't see the point!! I have been seriously depressed for almost a year! It is dispareing , i am shocked she went through with it. I have contemplated it myself but never able to go through.

Originally posted by Kody27
reply to post by NoRegretsEver

 

I think that might have something to do with her mentality than it does just being rejected for job applications. Obviously she wasn't the most qualified and she sounded very picky as to what type of job she wanted. You can't just waltz in and demand that you get a job as a teacher or tv production if you don't have good qualifications or credentials. Everyone has to start from the bottom and work their way up. Sounded like she expected to just jump into a nice career with no starter work, she had false expectations. Someone should have told her to just get a job doing something until she could find something better. It's what everyone does. I've been rejected by dozens of jobs just last year alone, not to mention the previous 10 years of applying for jobs. Did I let it get to me? No. I just kept applying and interviewing until I found something, but I guess I didn't value a job or career as much as this girl did. So it didn't bother me. That's what I'm saying, it has less to do with joblessness and more to do with her mentality.

In the UK, you wouldn't get employed as a teacher unless you had a university degree as well as a teaching qualification. To work as a university professor requires demonstrated desire to teach - working as a teacher would be a stepping stone in that process.
Even working at a nursery would problem require some training course in day care. As far a TV production goes, you would need an arts qualification, and then work as a "runner" does odd jobs.

Competition for engineering jobs in the UK is about 200 graduates per position, yet employers say that can't find enough suitable candidates.
Everything requires qualifications now - one MIT recruitment adviser said that "a university degree is the high-school diploma of the 21st Century".

Even top league university graduates have been leaving the industry to become plumbers:

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Originally posted by stormcell

Originally posted by Kody27
reply to post by NoRegretsEver

 

I think that might have something to do with her mentality than it does just being rejected for job applications. Obviously she wasn't the most qualified and she sounded very picky as to what type of job she wanted. You can't just waltz in and demand that you get a job as a teacher or tv production if you don't have good qualifications or credentials. Everyone has to start from the bottom and work their way up. Sounded like she expected to just jump into a nice career with no starter work, she had false expectations. Someone should have told her to just get a job doing something until she could find something better. It's what everyone does. I've been rejected by dozens of jobs just last year alone, not to mention the previous 10 years of applying for jobs. Did I let it get to me? No. I just kept applying and interviewing until I found something, but I guess I didn't value a job or career as much as this girl did. So it didn't bother me. That's what I'm saying, it has less to do with joblessness and more to do with her mentality.

In the UK, you wouldn't get employed as a teacher unless you had a university degree as well as a teaching qualification. To work as a university professor requires demonstrated desire to teach - working as a teacher would be a stepping stone in that process.
Even working at a nursery would problem require some training course in day care. As far a TV production goes, you would need an arts qualification, and then work as a "runner" does odd jobs.

Competition for engineering jobs in the UK is about 200 graduates per position, yet employers say that can't find enough suitable candidates.
Everything requires qualifications now - one MIT recruitment adviser said that "a university degree is the high-school diploma of the 21st Century".

Oh you hit the nail on the head with that last quote. It's so true. In the 60's and 70's, and even the 80's you could graduate with a high school diploma and get work and raise a family. Now, even people with multiple masters degrees can't even find work. Retired military personell with college degrees can't even find a good job, much less a career. This country is sh*t.

Stuff like this really breaks my heart. Despite the article being from 10 I can only imagine the situation has got worse. Not only is being repeatedly rejected, ignored and unsuccessful soul destroying in itself, but if you're claiming unemployment benefits then those guys will be sure to rub salt right in those wounds. Here in the uk you're now required to prove how you've been seeking work for at least five hours everyday, they've even set up a nice little online thing where you can log in showing what you've been looking at, applying for etc.

Funny thing is, you go in a jobcentre and the big joke is 'The work you want, the help you need' which is an outright lie. Luckily when i signed on I got a really nice woman who was actually human and she told me they're getting more and more pressure to get people into work, despite their being less jobs and subtly told me it's 'big brother'. Honestly, if you need help being pushed over the edge, that institution will definitely help, even their staff are being demoralised.

I don't think it's fair to assume this woman had poor interview techniques and what not. What if people are applying for minimum wage jobs, slaving for immoral companies, doing something mind numbing, then isn't it just about who's the best at covering up that their heart's really not there? People just seem to be forced into working for survivals sake without any real fulfilment at the end of it, and if there's nothing more then what reasons do people have to live?

It's not like people can just start 'legally' making a living, there are many forms, laws, licenses and taxes to make sure of this. I know so many know it, but the system is well and truly failing the people it's supposed to support, instead people are breaking their backs and their spirits supporting the system.

The silver lining here is that there is one less person to compete with for those who are looking for a job over there.

reply to post by NarcolepticBuddha


I get your point, I'm sure people have killed themselves over losing or not having a job in the past and more will in future, but it's not the underlying reason in most cases, the despair most likely stems from the fact that people know they won't make ends meet, can't honor debs, etc.

But you still make a good point, we can only speak from our own perspectives. For me, I know that in a worst case scenario I have friends and family that care and will help me, as I have and will help them in both past and future.

Sounds like the girl had loving parents, was it the not having a job itself that made her unhappy...or not having the means of attaining the things she desired, or not being able to service debts? I don't think not having a job is the absolute root cause but I could be wrong.

People can only state their views based on what they know, I don't know for sure but I think not having or being able to find a job was the straw that broke the camels back. I can't imagine, for the life of me, my immediate reaction to losing my job would be the notion to kill myself.

I don't live an extravagant lifestyle, don't have debt...I don't really yearn for the things people seem to think they need so badly these days. I don't own a tv, or a flashy phone, designer clothes. People will sign their lives away for this kind of stuff these days, and for some not having the possessions or lifestyle they feel they should have can be devastating, but we don't know what effort was made or what steps were taken by this girl in order to achieve her ambitions before she made the ultimate decision to take her own life. I don't know what kind of lifestyle she lived. she might have spent her every waking minute studying and looking for jobs for all I know. She might have spent her days lying on a couch watching jeremy kyle.

I'm sure her parents tried to help her, she had people around her...what depths of despair did she endure in her situation? I'd like to know more about hor and the circumstances...truth is I spent longer periods than 2 years out of work, but I made ends meet and was happy enough, I did without, though. I really did have nothing at times but I was never that depressed about it, suicide has never crossed my mind.

The only problem in my life was and still is me, most of my problems were self inflicted, if she had 2 years to reach such lows it's just a sad shame that nobody around her realised how down she was and did more to help her - or perhaps they did and she rejected that help, I have too many questions to really formulate an opinion with regards to this incident. Also, being that the story was printed in the daily mail, with a sensationalist, tabloid-esque headline...I tend to think they've singled out that one aspect of her life and made like it was the sole, single reason for her actions. It's kinda poor show that they're basically using this tragedy to have a rant about unemployment levels, or maybe I'm being overly analytical, I dunno. Hope I never said anything rude or offensive, or sounded callous or cold-hearted in my response.

Nothing was ever easy for me, I had hard times but it most certainly was my own fault. I didn't help myself, I lacked motivation and for a while it was tolerated by those around me. I was selfish and lazy, that's simply my view of how my own life kinda panned out, I wanted and expected more, but I didn't realise or understand fully that I had to work harder to get it. As for the girl in question, I can only apply my own experiences in life to her situation...sadly, she's not here to confirm whether or not my opinions are valid, for all I know she tried her best, if that's the case it's truly tragic, if not it's still a tragedy.

I've never had suicidal thoughts and quite frankly, wouldn't have the cajones to do it I don't think. A friend did, years ago, but that's another story.

reply to post by liliththedestroyer


What are you studying at college?

You know, sometimes you like doing something, but it's less fun doing it for a living. I kinda know what you mean about the quitting college thing.

I always wanted to be a programmer and did it in my spare time for years, I enjoyed it very much and it consumed a large part of my life. I was desperate to go to college and learn more, but it wasn't fun when it got serious.

Maybe what you're doing at college will be better as a hobby or a part-time sideline. Are you applying for jobs related to the field you're studying? I can be overkill, you might be happier supporting yourself through college by doing an unrelated, menial job. It's more than just paying bills, work is like school after you leave school, it's where you make new friends, only you're a bit more selective who you befriend as an adult.

I'm glad you don't have what it takes to end your own life, this isn't an inadequacy or failure on your part, it's validation that you're not quite there yet and can turn things around. Don't ever be scared to ask for help, there are some good people out there.

I hope you sort your problems out and things work out okay for you...there's nothing that can't be fixed.

I lost count after somewhere around 500 job applications.
I've got a 2:1 degree by the way.
I apply for anything and everything.
In fact I wrote a lengthy letter to Currys a few weeks ago about wanting to work in their store and how I'm gadget mad and would be suitable for a sales advisor job. I finished the letter by saying how I am willing to work the first month completely voluntary.
I sent that letter 3 weeks ago, I have yet to hear a reply.