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Originally posted by babybunnies
Americans are fascinating to me.
You give the NSA a hard time for programs that record phone information, and then praise the intelligence community for finding information of terrorists talking to each other discussing an attack.
They had similar information pre 9-11 as well, but they had so much information to get through even among flagged calls that this information wasn't known until after the attack, and this was at NSA's own admission.
Obviously their screening services have gotten much better since then.
So as you can see by my two posts......there is enough internal chaos, change, distraction within all of the countries I've listed.
This promotes an opportune time for Radical Islamic Militant Terrorists with connections to Al Qaeda and a number of affiliates made up of disgruntled, delusioned unemployed, thugs, punks who have nothing to live for but to be a Martyr in their distorted view of the Quran where if you do not conform to their beliefs
So again, we are under the threat of a Terrorist attack by Militant Terrorists with connections to Al Qaeda and a number of affiliates. the remainder of the region, North Africa, Middle East is under it's own implosion turmoil, we have no need to attack, let them kill each other, in the meantime, we need to remain vigilant and focust on these Radicals.
Originally posted by aboutface
Originally posted by ItDepends
So as you can see by my two posts......there is enough internal chaos, change, distraction within all of the countries I've listed.
This promotes an opportune time for Radical Islamic Militant Terrorists with connections to Al Qaeda and a number of affiliates made up of disgruntled, delusioned unemployed, thugs, punks who have nothing to live for but to be a Martyr in their distorted view of the Quran where if you do not conform to their beliefs
So again, we are under the threat of a Terrorist attack by Militant Terrorists with connections to Al Qaeda and a number of affiliates. the remainder of the region, North Africa, Middle East is under it's own implosion turmoil, we have no need to attack, let them kill each other, in the meantime, we need to remain vigilant and focust on these Radicals.
If these places are going to implode by themselves, then why is the US still spending billions on involvement in Syria and Egypt etc? Controlled demolition?
You did not mention Saudi Arabia, the enemy of Iran. Where would it figure in the mix? Think those who would attack Iran would not be giving carte blanche to the Saudis to rise among the ashes of the others? I don't pretend to know, but I am curious to see where this could lead.
Originally posted by ItDepends
Originally posted by aboutface
Originally posted by ItDepends
So as you can see by my two posts......there is enough internal chaos, change, distraction within all of the countries I've listed.
This promotes an opportune time for Radical Islamic Militant Terrorists with connections to Al Qaeda and a number of affiliates made up of disgruntled, delusioned unemployed, thugs, punks who have nothing to live for but to be a Martyr in their distorted view of the Quran where if you do not conform to their beliefs
So again, we are under the threat of a Terrorist attack by Militant Terrorists with connections to Al Qaeda and a number of affiliates. the remainder of the region, North Africa, Middle East is under it's own implosion turmoil, we have no need to attack, let them kill each other, in the meantime, we need to remain vigilant and focust on these Radicals.
If these places are going to implode by themselves, then why is the US still spending billions on involvement in Syria and Egypt etc? Controlled demolition?
You did not mention Saudi Arabia, the enemy of Iran. Where would it figure in the mix? Think those who would attack Iran would not be giving carte blanche to the Saudis to rise among the ashes of the others? I don't pretend to know, but I am curious to see where this could lead.
We are all waiting to see where this will lead. The U.S. gives money and support to more other countries, especially Africa in helping HELPING (aids, disease, hunger) than every other country combined.....so that answers why we try to help stabilize. As far as Saudi Arabia, that is a Kingdom...that over the last 4 decades is slowly changing, slowly implementing civil rights....slowly....they are behind the scenes, they are not, nor have they ever been OVERT in their actions......they wait...and help, discreetly. Not directed at you, but from all the threads I have seen and participated in, the majority ( don't mean to generalize, but from what I've seen) people almost are drooling for something to happen some where, they expect it, it is the new normal, tragedy, horrible humanity losses due to revolutions is Africa as an example, disease, hunger, abuse.....but the U.S. tries to help, really help...because we can and we believe in helping, stabilizing the world.......my take....I know that I will get hit on this.....go ahead...be negative. I love and treasure life...if we can stop these terrorists from killing people, then whatever means we have used to stop it I'm all for it....I'm all in
The National Security Agency, which has been rocked by disclosures by former contractor Edward Snowden, intercepted the electronic messages in what appeared to be a rare security breach between the two senior Al Qaeda leaders. Some lawmakers have cited the successful collection and analysis of the communications as evidence that the NSA's surveillance programs must be preserved.
Originally posted by TheMidnightToker
The National Security Agency, which has been rocked by disclosures by former contractor Edward Snowden, intercepted the electronic messages in what appeared to be a rare security breach between the two senior Al Qaeda leaders. Some lawmakers have cited the successful collection and analysis of the communications as evidence that the NSA's surveillance programs must be preserved.
I am undecided as to what to believe. I think that we (or possibly an ally) might possibly be attacked soon but I also feel that the NSA is trying to be made the good guy and saying that their spying has identified a possible terror plot. Just horrible to have to think that our government might be faking a terror plot just to be made the good guy. We live in troubling times......
P.S: I literally made an account just to post this comment.
reply to post by RageAgainstFascism
While it is tragic when unarmed civilians are injured and killed in war, civilian casualties are an undeniable cost of conflict. It has happened in all wars throughout history. The technology in use today does help to stop it to some extent, but, sadly, mistakes are still made. Your comment and query of, "There is nothing honorable about shooting unarmed, innocent civilians with an Apache helicopter. If this is their idea of spreading democracy and freedom, then I say: who are the real terrorists?" opens up a whole slue of counter-questions about terrorism.
What is honorable about killing thousands of civilians by flying aircraft into buildings (regardless of who you believe was behind the attacks)? What is honorable about suicide bombings in schools, markets, places of business, etc...? What is honorable about launching rockets and missiles with the intent of hitting civilian populations? What is honorable about using unarmed women and children as human shields? What is honorable about indoctrinating children and using them as soldiers? What is honorable about using schools, religious buildings, playing fields, hospitals, and other public structures to store weapons and mount attacks?