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Originally posted by xDeadcowx
reply to post by filledcup
What does any of this have to do with religion? This is some pretty cool new information that we didn't know before. This information will be double and triple checked by others and if consistent it will be incorporated into our current understanding of the universe.
There is nothing in this that mentions or implies religion, so i fail to see where you are finding a connection unless you are just waiting for a moment you can kick science while its down. Keep on waiting, but its never going to happen. Unlike religion, science is not a belief system. If some scientific principle is proven wrong by new information, that principle will be updated to account for the new information.
The closest science will ever get to religion is when our knowledge finally covers all the gaps your god lives in. They will never co-exist because they are fully incompatible.
DC
Originally posted by -PLB-
Originally posted by filledcup
there is alot that science is currently unable to observe. more reason why we should not put our faith of existence in the hands of science.
When we apply your same logic to any other concept, we come to the same conclusions. for instance:
there is a lot that religion is currently unable to observe. more reason why we should not put our faith of existence in the hands of religion.
When we use your logic, you are basically saying that we should not put our faith in anything. I propose that we put our faith in the things that work best. Praying that a disease is cured has a lot worse track record of success than modern science based medicine. So for my personal health I would put my faith in science.
If for you personally religion (or other world view) works better than science, then that is fine by me. As long as nobody it forcing his religion upon others, I am ok with it. I do despise religious parents who deny their kids vaccination because they believe its them getting mortally ill is gods will.
science will approach a dead-end in every field and in every direction, as it learns more, it will learn more of the higher intelligence which holds us.
when we come to understand the mystic forces which work together with the logical apparitions of physical reality, man will become accelerated in technological development.
science must come to realize that just as there MUST BE a Science to spirituality.. that there is also a spirituality.. to science.
Originally posted by filledcup
maybe if we had faith in what is taught in our religions we would not need to go testing through science, and will instead test through our spiritual path of life. but understandable.. religious teachings have been corrupted by greed and power. very few are able to sift through it all and find the truth. to discover and experience it for themselves.
edit on 4-8-2013 by filledcup because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EasyPleaseMe
Originally posted by filledcup
God exists outside the laws of physics!
God Created light from Darkness (big bang)
The world consists of both seen and unseen worlds
Both seen and unseen intelligent conscious ENTITIES
Mystics have beaten us to the finish line!
maybe if we had faith in what is taught in our religions we would not need to go testing through science, and will instead test through our spiritual path of life. but understandable.. religious teachings have been corrupted by greed and power. very few are able to sift through it all and find the truth. to discover and experience it for themselves.
I don't know anything about any religion to be honest but I have always wondered where the writers of these texts got their information from.
Originally posted by instigatah
Originally posted by LittleByLittle
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Third Eye?
Originally posted by Brucee
reply to post by filledcup
Well you might laugh at it now but seriously all this new science findings can be found in the eastern philosophy. If our western science would just open their mind a bit more to other cultures. It would save them to invent the wheel over and over again.
There is a 5th and 6th fundamental interaction. There is no dark energy and dark matter. It's all driven by this force. You will remember when time brings this up.
Originally posted by liejunkie01
I knew it.
As soon as I read the title, I knew that religion would be in there somewhere.
Keep trying ole faithful one
Originally posted by TheOd
Originally posted by LittleByLittle
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Third Eye?
Can't be, there's no eye in the colon or rectum.
The structures of the third eye in the tuatara are analogous to the cornea, lens and retina, though the latter resembles that of an octopus rather than a vertebrate retina.
likely MOST of them actually DID believe and were even strongly motivated in their scientific discoveries by their spiritual belief system, not to mention funded by rich people or institutions that were also religious or spiritually inclined.
and perhaps on that point we should clarify there is a huge difference between religion and spirituality.....something to think about.
I happen to believe in a creator...an intelligent being who is responsible for pretty much everything. Does that mean i detest science? want to see every theory i dont agree with immediately squashed and its proponents hanged or publicly flogged? Hell no. No self respecting spiritual person shrinks from a conflict and meeting of various and even opposing ideas.
Anyway, no reason in my opinion to ever be opposed to the idea of a creator entering the discussion when the issue has to do with the 'creation' of everything that exists today...and that very theme invites input regarding the permutations of that issue.
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by filledcup
science will approach a dead-end in every field and in every direction, as it learns more, it will learn more of the higher intelligence which holds us.
when we come to understand the mystic forces which work together with the logical apparitions of physical reality, man will become accelerated in technological development.
science must come to realize that just as there MUST BE a Science to spirituality.. that there is also a spirituality.. to science.
Just because you think there MUST BE a science to spirituality, doesn't make it so. I'm not sure how you arrived at your implications, but it seems you've leaped over and sidestepped an unfathomable amount of data to reach your desired conclusion.
Originally posted by Americanist
I've attempted to use Newton's Cradle as an example in the past. A choke ring as the plate-shaped barrier between spheres - that being our visible light. The following video gets the point across:
And a few posts down - the drive: System of Truth
edit on 4-8-2013 by Americanist because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheOd
Originally posted by ShaeTheShaman
it must suck being a scientist sometimes. knowing you'll never get answers to the universe. studying your whole life on something to find out in the end you were wrong . smh , this will happen many life times.
Here's what's worse. You physically die return to the ethereal and find out the Big Bang or Bang Bing or Boom Bong Bung doesn't mean a hill of beans in a world which has no time or distance.
It's a bunch of silly humans wasting their temporal slots in a material world masturbating over astral physics they will never understand whilst on Earth.