Originally posted by instigatah
this answer will go for both you and Easypleaseme
perform ur own critical thinking analysis.
let's start from the top. and top in this sense means the plane we are on and perceive to be the top. reality!
now here in external reality, we see objects.. 'objects'.. take note of this word. we see objects as they interact with eachother. and understand
that some objects react with others, some merge with others to form new constructs, action an reaction, 1+1=2 etc. things are simple and straight
but as we look either deeper into things through scientific inspection of the objects on earth in this reality that we interface with, or further and
out into space past our middle point.. things start to become illogical. we have peered into the quantum realm and realized, that things dont work
quite the way the work in our logical realm. in the quantum realm, it seems to scientists, that if they hit a pool ball on a pool-table in a certain
direction and with a certain force, sometimes it may go straight, but sometimes it may curve, sometimes it will multiply itself into 9 clones and
travel in 9 directions simultaneously. in effect.. 1+1 does not equal 2 in the quantum realm.
we also recognize that it seems that reality is manifest from some element or transformation from the quantum into the physical. the bible has already
said this. the invisible forms the visible.
now to answer something from nothing.
understand now, that the spiritual is the realm of quantum consciousness. essentially we acknowledge as is stated in the bible. the rules of time and
space do not apply as they do on this plane of existence. things become illogical. and through the analysis of machines it would APPEAR TO BE
'Random'. however, where we will agree, is that there is a link between physical reality, and invisible or what i call 'Spiritual Reality'.
what is claimed by mystics, and i fully agree, is that God was not forged out of the LOGICAL process of creation as we would hope to analyse and
summarize it. via logic, we require 1+1 to equal 2. but for the spirit.. the laws of exchange do not apply. the philosopher's stone my boy. the
spirit of God does not require anything to materialize something. and in that same way God can materialize multiple somethings out of nothing. and set
rules to them and how they interact for the design of a grand computer system as you would have it. Math is totally blown out of the water.. it is
only a small manifestation of the entirety of existence. there are simply places where the numbers will not take you without your own direct and
in this same way that the rules of logic as it pertains to creation do not apply for manifestations from God. they are probably even further
'deluded' for how he himself was forged. but ill tell u what. i dont need to know that. what i need to know is how to get to his level and the bible
tells us all these things. as well as all other religions, encoded in different ways to pass on the message.
NOTE AGAIN: i am NOT saying that we should reject science. not at all. i am saying that we should not forget that God is the designer and live
accordingly while we develop our science. but science will be led back to an intelligent creator eventually. and it will lead to an explosion in the
understanding of the makeup of existence and of technological advancement. Religion will become down to a science, and science will respect and work
in conjunction with the Science of Religion. all roads lead to rome.
we can crack the codes and in my case translate the mystical concepts into real world applications. but we are limited in what is available in tools
to work with. if our tools are limited, we can only produce limited scientific product. thus scientific advancement based on contributions from
mystical adepts is hampered based on the level of technology available to them.
what id say is, those guys were good! damn good! the stuff that has been passed down to us is really solid and full of wisdom. i see fully how many
fantastic scientific claims coincide with the claims of mystic adepts. not the frauds.. the true adepts of spiritual understanding.