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WAR: EU States Unite in Vision to Police Europe

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posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 02:24 PM
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In an effort to combat terrorism and other crimes amongst its member states, the European Union (EU) has announced an ambitions plan that involves joint investigative teams, sharing of records, and new anti crime technology. However, they stopped short of creating an EU police force much like the FBI at this time. The new cooperative spirit has already yielded results however, the usual rivalries between countries may hinder the attempt in the short term.

 



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LONDON - Jolted by the carnage of the Madrid train bombings and the cross-border rape and killing spree of a French pedophile, EU states are coming together on an ambitious new vision for policing Europe. It involves joint investigation teams and the sharing of hitherto jealously guarded criminal records and crime-fighting technology.


"Police cooperation now has a very broad support in Europe," said Genevieve Bourdin, in charge of international coordination at the French police. "Recent events provide us with a good reason to cooperate a terrorist attack could happen anywhere, anytime."


Shortly after Islamic terrorists blew up four crowded commuter trains on March 11, killing 191 people in Madrid, EU leaders pledged to improve common anti-terrorism efforts.




Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


The coordination of the police in the EU will no doubt have a positive benefit. While declining to have an FBI type agency cover multinational crimes, the sharing of criminal information should no doubt assist with the goal of crime prevention and global terrorism. However, that will have to be balanced with individual rights as well as privacy statues. It would be interesting to see if an FBI type agency would actually work. Unlike the U.S. the EU member states are sovereign unto themselves so Union agency coming in and taking over cases may cause resentment and a lack of cooperation. Hopefully this new cooperation will also extend both way across the Atlantic to the U.S.


[edit on 11/10/04 by FredT]




posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 02:47 PM
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In january 2003 they published a photo of a woman and some men standing outside their HQ, these people where called the EU police mission personell, they where deployed to police the streets of Bosnia and Hervingovia to take control of most civilian aspects of crisis management
from the UN

So their has been a police force they just haven't used it.

The picture was taken by Reuters photo journalist Danila Krstanovic if I remember correctly.








[edit on 10/11/2004 by drbryankkruta]



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 02:54 PM
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Interesting article


This is good news. From what I could hear and read here in Austria, people do support this. However it remains to be seen if this is just politicians talking or are they really going to do something.

There is already a joint european police... well, sort of, the Europol.

A quote from the article:



Europol, headquartered in The Hague (news - web sites), Netherlands. Created in 1998, Europol helps coordinate continentwide raids against terror networks, pedophile rings, organized crime gangs and currency counterfeiters.

However, the nearly 500-strong agency has no power to make arrests on its own and is struggling to shed its reputation as a paper tiger.

Europol Deputy Director Jens Hoejbjerg insists national police departments are increasingly turning to Europol for help in cross-border investigations, and points to a 40 percent rise in information-sharing from 2002 to 2003.



I guess they just need to work on Europol more, give them more authority and power.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 03:55 PM
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Eu police.


Micro chips for humans now ready, Tony Blair signing away our rights, now the 'EU' police.

The new world order is on its way, the evil anti christ kingdom is solidifying as each day passes...



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by rustiswordz
The new world order is on its way, the evil anti christ kingdom is solidifying as each day passes...


No the article was pretty specific on the fact that the did NOT form an EU police. They just codifed the cooperation between te member states.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 11:24 PM
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Never make excuses for evil Fred T

Remember. 'deny ignorance, not embrace it'



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by rustiswordz
Never make excuses for evil Fred T

Remember. 'deny ignorance, not embrace it'

From what I've seen of your previous posts, I'd say practice what you preach.

And a piece of advice; next time, try and make an effort to show an actual argument behind your thoughts.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by Durden
From what I've seen of your previous posts, I'd say practice what you preach.

And a piece of advice; next time, try and make an effort to show an actual argument behind your thoughts.


Oh don't be harsh. We need members to make totally unsubstantiated and outrageous claims with a straight face. Makes for a nice white noise background


Seriously, though, Europe does need to get it's act together in this respect. Not just for security, but just for general efficiency. IMO, of course.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by Durden

Originally posted by rustiswordz
Never make excuses for evil Fred T

Remember. 'deny ignorance, not embrace it'

From what I've seen of your previous posts, I'd say practice what you preach.

And a piece of advice; next time, try and make an effort to show an actual argument behind your thoughts.


I know all i need to Durden, and i seen all i need to. The moderators on this forum say 'deny ignorance' but form my view point it is often they who embrace it.

Deny Ignorance is a two edged sword, one which cuts both ways in an argument. And on that note i ask you to mind your own business mate.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by rustiswordz
I know all i need to Durden, and i seen all i need to.

By all means share this 'knowledge' of yours.


The moderators on this forum say 'deny ignorance' but form my view point it is often they who embrace it.

Again. Provide an actual argument behind this claim; don't simply spew your ignorant bs.


Deny Ignorance is a two edged sword, one which cuts both ways in an argument. And on that note i ask you to mind your own business mate.

Is this an invitation to an argument, rustiswordz?


[edit on 10-11-2004 by Durden]



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by rustiswordz
I know all i need to Durden, and i seen all i need to.

So why are you here?

If I knew everything I needed to know, there wouldn't be much need to go looking for more information, would there?

I'm not sure how to make sense of the idea of telling someone to mind their own business by means of a post on a public discussion board.

I'm skeptical of the idea that you really know all you need to know.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 11:54 PM
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Alrighty then: This is a ATSNN post. Everybody just take one of those Chill Pills I hear so many good things about and settle down.



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 01:57 AM
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@drbryankkruta
UN Specialists often take over Police Functions in Problematic Regions. European Policemen have been replacing the Police in Bosnia and Kosovo while they recruited new native police.
This is most likely what you have seen.
German Federal Police Units are also in Namibia(Formerly Deutsch Sdwest Afrika) as UN Police Force.



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 02:08 AM
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Isnt this pretty much what Interpol is or is that a worldwide thing?



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Isnt this pretty much what Interpol is or is that a worldwide thing?


I think interpol is on a smaller scale, while this new thing is over all powers.

Surf



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by surfup

Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Isnt this pretty much what Interpol is or is that a worldwide thing?


I think interpol is on a smaller scale, while this new thing is over all powers.

Surf


Really I didnt know that I always thought Interpol was some huge Org. Then again most of what I know of Interpol comes from movies



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 06:05 AM
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So we went to war with Hitler to prevent a police state of Europe, now we are bringing it back



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 06:40 AM
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Hitler's police state was more the idea of one single country ruling the whole Europe with iron fist.

What we have here is european union of equal countries which have dismantled national borders, therefore making a cooperation between police forces of these states necessary to prevent organised crime, terror attacks, etc, etc.



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 07:38 AM
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So we went to war with Hitler to prevent a police state of Europe, now we are bringing it back

A state ruled by the means of police and denunciation and a police that operates effectively are 2 pairs of shoes. If you use your definition, every state is a police state because every state has a police :p



posted on Nov, 11 2004 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Really I didnt know that I always thought Interpol was some huge Org. Then again most of what I know of Interpol comes from movies


Mine comes from the movies too.


Surf




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