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Why are all the other sites similar to ATS being watched by the NSA, while ATS is not? Any ideas

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posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 09:09 AM
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"Harmless nutters" does than mean because we are all nutters and harmless, or does it mean because we are nutters we are harmless? because there is no way I could tell.
Seeing someone I know is a nutter and should be avoided, is different than being in a forum online. So no, being a "harmless nutter" is not a reason for having no NSA surveillance. My guess is that ATS has a civilian 'volunteer' or two to send out any tid bits.




posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 09:12 AM
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An explanation is Ats could be owned by NSA. There has been some threads I have seen floating around here and there on this, which appear to debunk this possibility.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 09:27 AM
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The NSA is afraid of putting surveillance people on ATS. Every time they tried to the agent became aware of what was happening and they spent months re-brainwashing the agent. Some of them never got fixed, so they had to be reassigned to selective service jobs since their brains could detect what was going on in the world around them.

Other sites don't possess the diverse intellectual quality of their members that ATS has.

Hmmm....Kinda sounds like I am spreading manure in the garden.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by bottleslingguy
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my problem with it is that they are storing our every move. why would they need to do that unless it was for future persecution. how about that little thing about self-incrimination in the Bill of Rights?


All of that got trumped by the patriot act.

GW was a serious enforcer of the bill of rights



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by ProfEmeritus
 

That plugin only alerts for sights known to be associated with PRISM. It's not actually detecting anything more than cookies from a handful of sights.

More importantly there was a security warning issued yesterday or the day before suggesting that the method in which the plugin works could be used to phish your system.

Just a heads up

+10 points to Hefficide and Mr.Inquisitive.

It doesn't appear to be dangerous though. The source code is available online.

Source is here. Inquisitves post here. Exert from source:

// Basic list of providers based on media coverage

var prismSitez = ["google.com", "gmail.com", "facebook.com", "bing.com", "yahoo.com", "aol.com","apple.com","skype.com", "microsoft.com", "youtube.com","hotmail.com"];

The developer is fairly upfront on what is going on here ... people are just getting over excited.

Hope it helps.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 09:59 AM
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Considering everything everywhere is...no matter whether they say so or not...Im assuming we are.

If you think about it...why WOULDNT they monitor us???



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 10:19 AM
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I'm guessing the programmers employed by the NSA are light years ahead of of some guy called "justinblinder" who believes his add-on is state of the art.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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Why would the government fear truth? The government fears fascism, not truth



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 11:07 AM
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It should be becouse when ever you type a conspiracy theory in google the first or second link is always ATS or godlikepredictions



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 11:36 AM
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Haven't been on this site in about 4 months, thought i'd have a look see, interesting thing occurred after i signed in. I clicked off the site for about 10 minutes because i had other things i was doing, but when i brought it back up, a warning redirected my page that i needed to install Flash with a link button...naturally i ignored it and wasn't stupid enough to click on the link button, but the strange thing was it was connected to this sites address on a suspicious looking page ive never seen before anywhere on the internet....i clicked out of the page and retyped ATS and it came right up with no further issue...I honestly think ATS has been compromised without their knowledge, and that the government is up to no good...if this warning message ever shows up on your computer, don't follow the link, i believe its a java script control that will let them into your computer



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 01:18 PM
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Maybe the NSA is not covertly monitoring this site because they are all posting on it in their spare time.

They need to have a program to monitor facebook because I rarely ever post on there and it would be boring to check the site every day when I don't.

Well that's my theory.

Plus I thought the information posted here was pretty open so I see no need for any covert monitoring program.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 02:25 PM
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Theres a Billion dollar building in Utah.......That good ol patriotic state, where every possble keystroke and data bit, byte, or blurb is stored away in huge inexhaustible data banks......
The plan is to have "something on" everyone they need to control or intimidate......
ATS is in the hoovers guts en toto............

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posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 02:46 PM
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Here is a little more proof on what I was arguing on page 4 of this thread... Which is if you are American you most likely are not being watched by the NSA but rather the GCHQ.

It allows for total surveillance and Countries to sort of follow the law by allowing a foreign intelligence service unprecedented access in exchange for a few Hundred Million Dollars.

"Verizon is handing over U.S. data to a foreign spy agency".




Three of the world’s largest telecommunication companies, Verizon, Vodafone and BT, are providing the U.K.'s intelligence agency with their customers’ phone, email and Facebook data, the Guardian reported. According to the British paper, top secret documents provided by former U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden and originally published in the German paper Süddeutsche, have implicated the three major telecom firms—along with four other companies—in granting the U.K. Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) unlimited access to their undersea cables. As revealed by Snowden earlier this week, the NSA has paid the GCHQ over $150 million in the past three years for access to British intelligence, meaning that 250 NSA agents can view the GCHQ’s data. Last year, the GCHQ apparently tapped more than 200 fibreoptic cables carrying both Internet and phone data. The agency stores metadata--information about when and where messages are sent--for up to 30 days. The content of communications are only stored for three days. The data is searched by the NSA using the “XKeyscore” program, which the NSA has called its “widest-reaching” operation. The program allows agents to query massive databases of emails, browsing histories, and chats (in real time) without a warrant.



All part of the "Five Eyes" security arrangement. Furthermore it has been going on since 1946 to some degree or another as part of the UKUSA agreement.

I think you would have to really a simpleton to think this Firefox add on is in any shape or form legitimate in its abilities. There is no way in the world some guy in 4 hours or 40,000 hours can make a add on that will accurately let you know if the NSA is spying on you or any particular site. I am gonna just take a wild guess and say the NSA had technology that would make your head spin if you ever had a chance to see it. Furthermore they are not sloppy to the degree that a add on will alert you to their or any of the 5 eyes presence.



“They are worse than the U.S.," Snowden told the Guardian.

www.dailydot.com...

I also can tell there is a vast misunderstanding on how these surveillance programs work. Educate yourselves before making statements such as "The NSA is monitoring ATS". It is not like the NSA or GCHQ or any of the other "partners" have analysts who sit and watch ATS all day placing check marks by people's names. It does not work like that... Read what had been leaked by the Guardian or Der Spiegal. Read some of the slides... Try and understand what is going on. I am not claiming to be a genius or even understand 1% of how these programs are functioning but... I feel like I have a better grasp than quite a few people on this thread.


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posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 02:55 PM
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After that whole ATS member who was a murderer, and another that was planning something nasty, ATS is definitely monitored.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 03:13 PM
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If you believe this site is is not monitored then you most probably believe in the tooth mouse, farther xmas, that everything is a okay in the usa and many other stuffies like that.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 03:15 PM
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My thinking too. I cant say why cause then my account might get blocked or dissapear.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 05:45 PM
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I have no doubt t that ATS is being watched by the NSA.

I think the difference is though, the majority if not all of ATS only Talks about what is going on. There is a big difference between "talking" and actually organizing or doing something about the current state of affairs.

Now if "talk" turned to the climate of "rebellion" or "change" ... I think we would see ATS members disappearing right and left.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 06:13 PM
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Folks, EVERYTHING is being watched. Don't let some third-party add on be your guide. Consider that the NSA has these in place (That we know of):




AGILEVIEW, AGILITY, AIRGAP/COZEN, AIGHANDLER, ANCHORY/MAUI, ARCANAPUP, ARTEMIS, ASSOCIATION, AUTOSOURCE, BEAMER, BELLVIEW, BLACKPEARL, CADENCE/GAMUT, CHALKFUN, CINEPLEX, CLOUD, COASTLINE, COMMONVIEW, CONTRAOCTAVE, CONVERGENCE, COURIERSKILL, CREEK, CREST, CROSSBONES, CPE, CULTWEAVE, CYBERTRANS, DISHFIRE, DOUBLEARROW, DRAGONFLY, Enhanced WEALTHYCLUSTER (EWC), ETHEREAL (maybe opensource network analysis?), FASCIA, FASTSCOPE, FOREMAN, GAMUT/UTT, GISTQUEUE, GJALLER, GLAVE, GLOBALREACH, GOLDMINER, GOLDPOINT, GOSSAMER, GROWLER, HERCULES (CIA terror database) HIGHTIDE/SKYWRITER, HOMEBASE, INFOSHARE, JOLLYROGER, KINGFISH, LIQUIDFIRE, MAINWAY, MARINA, MASTERLINK, MASTERSHAKE, MAUI/ANCHORY, MESSIAH, METTLESOME, NEWHORIZONS, NIGHTSURF, NORMALRUN/CHEWSTICK/FALLENORACLE, NUCLEON, OCTAVE, PATHMASTER/MAILORDER, PINWALE, PANOPTICON, PRESENTER, PROTON, RAVENWING, RENOIR, ROADBED, SCORPIOFORE/CPE, SHARKFINN, SKOPE, SKYWRITER, SNAPE, SPOTBEAM, STINGRAY; SURREY, TAPERLAY, TAROTCARD, TEMPTRESS, TRACFIN, TRAILMAPPER, TREASUREMAP, TRICKLER, TUNINGFORK/SEEKER, TURMOIL, TUSKATTIRE, TWISTEDPATH, UIS/PINWALE, UTT, WEALTHYCLUSTER, WIRESHARK (opensource network analysis?) WITCHHUNT, XKEYSCORE, YELLOWSTONE/SPLITGLASS


Source

Too many of you assume that the Spyware needs to reside on the host server (ATS Servers). WRONG! Internet traffic traverses a number of servers and routers between the source site and your PC. In fact, most spyware and IP traffic nets are attached to your ISP and would be undetectable by any third-party add on.

Without revealing too much, I'll just say I know this because I am entrenched in the online behavioral marketing game and I know how we track you and our technology is archaic by modern IT standards.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 06:28 PM
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because..

they just log in..




posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 08:19 PM
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@Pinke,

WOW. You sure did your due diligence looking into this: finding the source code no less.

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