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posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by Evil_Santa

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Your post isn't accurate. The Conservatives were never on board with Kristy Kreme, and it has nothing to do with aid, it has to do with him being a tax and spend Liberal Republican.


Oh ok. So he spoke at the 2012 RNC because he's such a tax and spend republican.



Go away.


No, I think I will stay.

The RNC leadership is PROGRESSIVE. They are for the staus-quo, establishment, big-government "RINO" Republicans.

Now, if he had been invited to speak at CPAC you would have a point.




posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 08:57 PM
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We need someone who is actually fiscally conservative, yet socially liberal.



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
The new political divide is liberty and anti-liberty.


Awesome post, well said!!!

It all comes down to that fact!!!



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 09:52 PM
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Oh ok. So because the TEA PARTY arm of the GOP doesn't like Christy, ALL republicans don't like Christie.

Got it.

He's still the best chance the GOP has at winning an election. Your loss for not looking at the bigger picture and realizing that most of the american public doesn't want some far-right nutbag in office.

Edit: June 8, 2012 New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie speech to CPAC-Chicago



So..... my point that the GOP has thrown Christie under the bus because of his "working across the lines" after Sandy remains.
edit on 3-8-2013 by Evil_Santa because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 10:31 PM
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Oh ok. So because the TEA PARTY arm of the GOP doesn't like Christy, ALL republicans don't like Christie.

Got it.


Before you get all huffy, why don't go back and re-read what I said when you replied with that video.



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Evil_Santa
 



Oh ok. So because the TEA PARTY arm of the GOP doesn't like Christy, ALL republicans don't like Christie.

Got it.


Before you get all huffy, why don't go back and re-read what I said when you replied with that video.


You said that Christie isn't liked because of his platform, and that might be what is coming out of the GOP today, but that wasn't true 12 months ago.

What changed? Oh yeah, he gave Obama an endorsement after Sandy, and the called out the GOP for blocking aid bills.



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 10:58 PM
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Do you need for me to copy/paste what I said when you replied with the video? Who did I say had a problem with Kristy's polices?



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 11:12 PM
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Gee, considering the post is at the top of the page, you can save yourself the trouble.

First off, you replied to one of my posts and said that i'm wrong. That Christie is shunned for not being a "true conservative". You said that the conservatives were never onboard with Chris, to which i replied - then why was he invited to speak at the 2012 RNC.

You said that the RNC is irrelevant, and that i'd have a point if he spoke at CPAC because that's where "the real conservatives" are. (paraphrasing)

I posted a video of him speaking at CPAC 2012 in Chicago.

Now you're trying to say i'm wrong still, or argue some irrelevant point. C'mon. You were the one who even said "Now, if Christie had been invited to speak at CPAC you would have a point." HE SPOKE AT CPAC 2012.
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posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 11:16 PM
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Well if Christie runs he'll get New Jersey.... if that's something... although I don't think he'll get much with that. He does indeed have a sizable liberal support base in New Jersey but that's it really. If he runs against Hillary though he'll get wiped off the floor. Everybody knows this.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 01:40 AM
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He was refused at CPAC this year. So guess what policy he was responsible for between CPAC 12 and 13.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by Evil_Santa
Oh my bad, you don't like facts.

Calling republicans the old white man party is NOT stating a fact.

It's regurgitating democratic propaganda. You bought into what they are selling.

Democrats are all bunch of freeloading socialists.
You disagree? Oh my bad, you don't like facts.
See how stupid it is try try to push rhetoric off as fact?


Originally posted by Evil_Santa
I happen to live in a city that is heavy GOP, and watched people drive around and rip Obama signs out of the ground in the days before the election.

I happen to live in an area that is heavy democrat, and I watched people drive around and rip Romney signs out of the ground in the days before the election. And some of the voting machines in our area had pre-registered votes for Obama on them in 2008.

edit on 8/4/2013 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by Evil_Santa
You said that Christie isn't liked because of his platform, and that might be what is coming out of the GOP today, but that wasn't true 12 months ago. What changed? Oh yeah, he gave Obama an endorsement after Sandy, and the called out the GOP for blocking aid bills.


:shk: No. What changed was CHRISTIE HIMSELF. He has massively changed since 2008 (NOT 12 months ago). He has BIG NAME Democratic donors who just slobber all over him and LUV him.

I strongly dislike his attitude towards the second amendment.

I strongly dislike that he is now pandering, whereas in 2008 he started out being a grass roots type fella with a Jersey attitude who could get GOOD things done.

While he and Obama were slapping each other on their backs after Hurricane Sandy, a whole lot of bad things were happening to people and there was a whole lot of financial corruption going on.

He is anti-marriage equality but at the same time says homosexuals are born that way and it's not a sin. So then, why block gay marriage?

Blocked medical marijuana laws.

He has made no statements on foreign policy or free trade or immigration.

He's given up on trying to be rid of Obamacare .. which will break the country.

He buys into the man made global warming hoax. Which means that next he'll be buying into the carbon credit tax scheme that Al Gore invented to get rich off of.

George Soros Donates To Chris Christie Fund ... GEORGE SOROS!!!!!


Gov. Chris Christie is cashing in donations from top Democratic fundraisers and other traditionally liberal donors across the country, even nabbing the support of a handful of rainmakers aligned with President Obama and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a Star-Ledger review of state and federal records shows.

The checks are flying into the Republican governor’s war chest from all sorts of unlikely places — the hedge fund run by liberal billionaire George Soros, for example, and the politically progressive halls of the University of California, Berkeley.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 12:35 PM
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They don't have a backbone hell McCain and Romney is all the proof anyone needs.


Yep, milk toast middle-of-the-roaders. Honestly though, in either election there was not a real good "other" candidate. Paul was too fringe and he doesn't have the Charisma or look the part. The president is a figurehead as much as anything else he is, we want someone who looks the part. Finding the right package is going to be hard. Jindal has zero chance, the third Bush would be a non-starter. I think we need a Governor, someone i don't know about because no one i know gets me motivated.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Evil_Santa
Oh my bad, you don't like facts.

Calling republicans the old white man party is NOT stating a fact.

It's regurgitating democratic propaganda. You bought into what they are selling.

Democrats are all bunch of freeloading socialists.
You disagree? Oh my bad, you don't like facts.
See how stupid it is try try to push rhetoric off as fact?


Originally posted by Evil_Santa
I happen to live in a city that is heavy GOP, and watched people drive around and rip Obama signs out of the ground in the days before the election.

I happen to live in an area that is heavy democrat, and I watched people drive around and rip Romney signs out of the ground in the days before the election. And some of the voting machines in our area had pre-registered votes for Obama on them in 2008.

edit on 8/4/2013 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)



There's always truth in rhetoric.

en.wikipedia.org...

The sign thing doesn't surprise me. The voting machine thing though, it's possible. Who knows, maybe someone forgot to clear out the test data from the machines before deploying them. Or, maybe it's just another right-wing point to try and say that Obama cheated. Who knows.

The point of this discussion is that the GOP is out of touch with the American public, and my opinion is that Christie would be a good candidate for them if they want to win the white house in 2016.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 02:20 PM
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Blasting the GOP in congress for blocking hurricane Sandy relief.

Again, you're just trying to win this argument by any means necessary. You keep moving the goalposts for what I need to provide to have "a point". Just admit it. Christie was a poster child of the GOP a year ago because he was an R governing a blue state, but because he fought for the well being of his state, and didn't toe the line, the GOP has now outcast him.

en.wikipedia.org...


Moving the goalposts, also known as raising the bar, is an informal logically fallacious argument in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. In other words, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt.[2] The problem with changing the rules of the game is that the meaning of the end result is changed too. It counts for less.[3]



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Evil_Santa
You said that Christie isn't liked because of his platform, and that might be what is coming out of the GOP today, but that wasn't true 12 months ago. What changed? Oh yeah, he gave Obama an endorsement after Sandy, and the called out the GOP for blocking aid bills.


:shk: No. What changed was CHRISTIE HIMSELF. He has massively changed since 2008 (NOT 12 months ago). He has BIG NAME Democratic donors who just slobber all over him and LUV him.

I strongly dislike his attitude towards the second amendment.

I strongly dislike that he is now pandering, whereas in 2008 he started out being a grass roots type fella with a Jersey attitude who could get GOOD things done.

While he and Obama were slapping each other on their backs after Hurricane Sandy, a whole lot of bad things were happening to people and there was a whole lot of financial corruption going on.

He is anti-marriage equality but at the same time says homosexuals are born that way and it's not a sin. So then, why block gay marriage?

Blocked medical marijuana laws.

He has made no statements on foreign policy or free trade or immigration.

He's given up on trying to be rid of Obamacare .. which will break the country.

He buys into the man made global warming hoax. Which means that next he'll be buying into the carbon credit tax scheme that Al Gore invented to get rich off of.

George Soros Donates To Chris Christie Fund ... GEORGE SOROS!!!!!


Gov. Chris Christie is cashing in donations from top Democratic fundraisers and other traditionally liberal donors across the country, even nabbing the support of a handful of rainmakers aligned with President Obama and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a Star-Ledger review of state and federal records shows.

The checks are flying into the Republican governor’s war chest from all sorts of unlikely places — the hedge fund run by liberal billionaire George Soros, for example, and the politically progressive halls of the University of California, Berkeley.


Then why was he given spots to speak at CPAC/RNC 12 months ago? Answer that question.

And i'm happy that he believes in man-made global warming, because IT'S REAL. But, you'll rebuke that with some kind of Koch study that says it's all made up, blah blah blah. Cognitive dissonance is a helluve a drug.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 03:53 PM
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Then why was he given spots to speak at CPAC/RNC 12 months ago? Answer that question.


Isn't that obvious?

The Republican establishments goals are the same as the Democratic establishments goals. The goal is to make their corporate friends richer and in turn make themselves richer. In the last 30 years this country has slowly started to turn in to Fascist Italy.

The corporations and government are the same freaking entity.



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 03:55 PM
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*YAWN*

He really ought to change his "R" to a "D" and get it over with. Those of us with a brain recognize him for what he is - A DEMOCRAT!!!



posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 04:37 PM
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I'm not moving any goalposts. You're failing to address my point squarely. That the CONSERVATIVES have issues with Kristy, I never said the GOP did. If you have been paying attention, the RINO Republicans in the GOP have been against Conservatives since the days or Regean taking on Gerald Ford. The GOP doesn't like Conservatives and hasn't nominated one for a Presidential run since Regean in 1980.
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posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 04:43 PM
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Reagan wasn't a true conservative either. Liberal and Conservative philosophy has been practically abandoned, both of the ideologies have been warped and manipulated so much to confuse the populace that they bear little resemblance to their classical definitions.




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