reply to post by TDawgRex
Thanks for the measured response - I jumped in there a bit.
However, the cornerstone of understanding the Iranian issue - in my opinion - is to understand the context, and to rationally review the
Pakistan has nuclear weapons, they are not members of the nuclear non proliferation treaty, and the US military is landing strikes inside that nation,
killing a lot of innocent people. If you are very worried about an muslim nation having nuclear weapons who might consider using them - then look no
further. They have the bomb, they are being seriously provoked - but almost no mention of it in the media? I am sure one reason is because the
existence of a nuclear armed muslim state, who is trying so hard to cooperate with the US that they are even allowing the US to kill their civilians
(which is criminal) - undermines the whole meme behind the 'Iran is dangerous and shouldn't have nukes' propaganda story.
Iran is a threat to the banking oligarchs - because it is selling oil and not in dollars, it is a stabilizing force in the ME, able to resist the
threat of US and Israeli aggression. It has been able to withstand sanctions, and maintain an incredible amount of restraint and continued
Like Pakistan - they absolutely do not want war or conflict, and have shown restraint, and consideration of international law.
The oligarchs do not want nations like Iran to have nukes, not because the Iranians might use them aggressively - but because they might use them
defensively to protect themselves from Israeli and US aggression.
Follow this link to see how the warmongers think, and what they are actually considering;
This is a lobbyist advocating the use of a false flag attack to provoke Iran into war. You will notice this guy goes through a list of incidents that
caused past wars;
Lusitania - this was again arranged, the ship was commandeered as a munitions ship at first, but then returned to service as a passenger ship. It was
loaded with munitions, and it was ensured that the Germans knew about this - it was then sailed on a specific course with the Germans having full
knowledge, they of course sank the ship. The allied govts denied the ship carried munitions, and accused the Germans of sinking a passenger ship
filled with Americans - this event brought the US into WWI.
Pearl Harbour - there is very little doubt that the US regime intimidated Japan into this attack, by closing embassies, removing diplomatic relations
and making sure the Japanese knew they were massing a task force at Pearl Harbour - and did not warn the fleet when they knew the Japanese were about
to attack. They wanted Japan to attack, in fact they left them with no choice - and then they ensured the attack would cause significant damage by
not warning the fleet. The result of this was public support for the US to enter WWII.
Gulf of Tonkin - the fact that this was a fasle flag, ie the US govt simply lied to the American people in order to gain support to enter the war with
Vietnam - is declassified, and public record.
Explosion of the Main - blamed on an attack by Spain, allowed the US govt to gain public support for entering the war against Spain. Recent
investigations have revealed that it is most likely caused by the explosion of the munitions. Considering that the Maine was obsolete even before
launching, it is not at all unreasonable to assume that this was a deliberate act in order to provoke public sentiment and allow the US to enter the
Fort Sumter - the guy actually explains that this was a deliberate act on the part of Lincoln to provoke a war.
Following all of this, the lobbyist - Clawson says 'if Iran is not willing to compromise, it would be better if someone else started the war. Be
clear in your mind, when he says compromise - he is not talking about nuclear weapons - he is talking about the sale of oil for dollars.
Listening to this piece of scum should give you a much clearer idea of what I am talking about. They want war, war is the business they love the most
- the death and destruction mean nothing to these scum - they want power, control and they are willing to kill American soldiers, and innocents in any
nation to get it.
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