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Groundbreaking Investigation Reveals Monsanto Teamed Up With US Military; Targets Scientists,

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posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 12:59 AM
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Sure, why not.?
Seems to work for the anti-GMO crowd. Apparently they don't mind being lied to by their own.

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posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 01:09 AM
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Ah, only Monsanto is a lie. Not just that they tell lies about the GMO crops that
have not delivered, they lie to the farmers about productivity, they lie about the weeds!


In fact, is there anything about Monsatan that is not a lie?

Wait! I can think of one thing, they dont test their food for safety, and they
admit that! And, whats more they dont care. Bottom line for Monsanto,
they are a greedy corporate monster.




posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 03:27 AM
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I am surprised that many governments and other country's horticultural lobbyists are not making more noise about Monsanto's world domination grab.

No one company should be able to dominate the world and when it comes to such vital areas as food etc for which the world can be held to ransom, its unhealthy and highly suspicious. Who finances Monsando's world grab aspirations?

Also it has become a hobby of some dark force to target any prominent scientist who is not convinced of the strategy being applied and after investigating it finds flaws. I'm still getting over the 'suicide of Dr Kelly' the arms scientist in Iraq whose family denies the suicide verdict.

We live in very frightening times when one sees the probable outcome of some of the meglomaniac aspirations.

No one company should be allowed to have a monopoly on anything that can be used to blackmail the world, let alone possibly poison it.



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 03:31 AM
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I gotta thank you Ships, biotechnology is fun!
Go GMO!
I say let's cut the red tape and really let this thing fly.
5 Innovations in Bio-tech

This is the kinda genetic wizardry i am really hoping breaks some barriers.
Check out how these guys are making stronger adhesives.
Inspired by Animals


Silky Stickiness
Spider silk is strong (five times stronger than steel by weight), stretchy and lightweight. Some silk is sticky to catch prey, and some is not to let the spider scurry along it.
Karp, Langer and their postdoctoral associate Bryan Laulicht sought to create another new medical product with similar properties—a pliable, peel-off adhesive that doesn’t damage the underlying surface when removed. This sort of tape would be especially valuable for keeping tubes or sensors in place on those with delicate skin, including newborn infants and elderly people.
For reference, the scientists initially turned to traditional medical tape, which, like household masking tape, is made by spreading a sticky adhesive onto a thin backing material. But instead of spraying the backing with adhesive right away, the researchers first applied a silicon-based film. Then, with another nod to the nanoscale pattern on gecko feet, they used a laser to etch a microscopic grid pattern onto the film. Finally, they added the sticky layer.


And see what this guy in Oregon did last year?
Source


The researchers led by OHSU biologist Shoukhrat Mitalipov modified unfertilized eggs for the first time, a technique that offers great promise as well as ethical pitfalls. Such research is banned in many countries.

Three years ago, the Russian-born Mitalipov made headlines with experiments that created monkeys with genetic material from three parents. Now, his team has done it with human cells, setting the stage for possible experiments with humans.

The procedure dealt with what's called mitochondrial DNA, the small part of the cell that turns food into energy. Mitochondrial disorders can lead to neuropathy, a type of dementia, and nervous system disorders such as Leigh disease.

And check out what Hawaii is doing with Marijuana
Hawaii
Hemp as feedstock for Biofuel

Like i said, Bio-technology is fun.



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 07:16 AM
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Two days before the study across 18 countries was set to be published, a virus disabled the computer of the main organiser, Adrian Bepp.

I guess the NSA data collection came in handy. They know what is going on before it happens.n They are all linked. A lot of people out there say they don't care about the NSA cause they are not terrorist. Why do they think they are targeting only terrorist.



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Go ahead, it warms my heart to know your eating your GMO, really it does.


Funny. So when the lies don't work you have to resort to funny pictures? I guess you know your audience. Will there be a cartoon soon?
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This is actually a technique from the army Psy-ops field manual 33-1.



Name Calling or Substitutions of Names or Moral Labels. This technique attempts to arouse prejudices in an audience by labeling the object of the propaganda campaign as something the target audience fears, hates, loathes, or finds undesirable.

Very interesting Field manual. It even shows you leaflet drop patterns when dropping propaganda by hand from a plane



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posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
Claims of cyberattacks by Monsanto. No evidence that the attacks occurred or if they did what the source was. Ok.

What else?

These show: Monsanto wanted to put up a fight. Against activists who destroyed the fields. Against critics, who influenced the mood against the genetic modification company.
They want to protect their property, interests, and employees. Awful.


According to their own statements, Monsanto was conducting business with TIS at the time and not with Blackwater. It is without doubt that Monsanto received reports from TIS about the activities of critics.
Well, yes. That's what they hired them for, investigating threats against the company.


The targets of these attacks are scientists, such as the Australian Judy Carman. Among other things, she has made a name for herself with studies of genetically modified plants. Her publications were questioned by the same professors which also attacked the the studies of other Monsanto critics.
Well yes, "attacking" bad science is a good thing to do. Her "studies" are not science.


Funny. There isn't anything new here or particularly revealing but there sure is a lot of arm waving.

sustainablepulse.com...
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posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by Shiloh7
I am surprised that many governments and other country's horticultural lobbyists are not making more noise about Monsanto's world domination grab.

No one company should be able to dominate the world and when it comes to such vital areas as food etc for which the world can be held to ransom, its unhealthy and highly suspicious. Who finances Monsando's world grab aspirations?


That is a very pertinent issue about being held to ransom, and pretty much sums
up the situation many farmers find themselves with after years of Monsanto crops
that leave them with little choice, either to go out of business or start pouring
on the glysophate Round Up, and continue to purchase very expensive seed
that is GMO so that it can stand up with all of the pesticide use.



Also it has become a hobby of some dark force to target any prominent scientist who is not convinced of the strategy being applied and after investigating it finds flaws.


Yes, and for those scientists they risk alot to try and get the truth out.
It is simply wrong for them to face the threat of harm, or harassment because
they want to exercise freedom of unbiased research and freedom of speech.


No one company should be allowed to have a monopoly on anything that can be used to blackmail the world, let alone possibly poison it.


Exactly!



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 09:43 AM
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Monsatan and Bayer... Neonicotinoid.... It must stop while we have bees..



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 09:48 AM
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I think your on the wrong subject, you seem to be talking about
transgenes and synthetic biology. However in any case you making
my point for me. The typical frozen dinner contains several GE poisons,
Genetically Modified Corn, Soy, Canola. So that picture is really not
a cartoon, its a reality!


GM plants, such as soybean, corn, cottonseed, and canola, have had foreign genes forced into their DNA. The inserted genes come from species, such as bacteria and viruses, which have never been in the human food supply.

Genetic engineering transfers genes across natural species barriers. It uses imprecise laboratory techniques that bear no resemblance to natural breeding, and is based on outdated concepts of how genes and cells work.[4] Gene insertion is done either by shooting genes from a "gene gun" into a plate of cells or by using bacteria to invade the cell with foreign DNA. The altered cell is then cloned into a plant. www.responsibletechnology.org...




The genetic engineering process creates massive collateral damage, causing mutations in hundreds or thousands of locations throughout the plant's DNA.[5] Natural genes can be deleted or permanently turned on or off, and hundreds may change their behavior.[6] Even the inserted gene can be damaged or rearraranged
www.responsibletechnology.org...


Its not only viruses they insert, but bacteria also.


The five major varieties—soy, corn, canola, cotton, and sugar beets—have bacterial genes inserted, which allow the plants to survive an otherwise deadly dose of weed killer. Farmers use considerably more herbicides on these GM crops and so the food has higher herbicide residues. About 68% of GM crops are herbicide tolerant.

The second GM trait is a built-in pesticide, found in GM corn and cotton. A gene from the soil bacterium called Bt (for Bacillus thuringiensis) is inserted into the plant’s DNA, where it secretes the insect-killing Bt-toxin in every cell. About 19% of GM crops produce their own pesticide. Another 13% produce a pesticide and are herbicide tolerant. www.responsibletechnology.org...



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by jlafleur02



Two days before the study across 18 countries was set to be published, a virus disabled the computer of the main organiser, Adrian Bepp.

I guess the NSA data collection came in handy. They know what is going on before it happens.n They are all linked. A lot of people out there say they don't care about the NSA cause they are not terrorist. Why do they think they are targeting only terrorist.


I am trying to follow your train of thought here, are you saying that the researchers preparing the
study using non Monsanto funded scientists are terrorists?

If so, since when did anti GMO research become a crime?
Independent science research makes one a terrorist?




posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 11:07 AM
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Whats so bad about gmo food? A lot of people eat it now, if there would be something wrong with GMO food wouldnt we see the fallout?



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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Were not just eating food, were eating gene regulators....
DNA and RNA. Studies show RNA from our food remains in our digestive system
therefore it affects our entire system, organs included.


The Nanjing University-based team showed that this genetic material will
bind to receptors in human liver cells and influence the uptake of cholesterol from the blood.

The type of RNA in question is called microRNA (abbreviated to miRNA) due to its small size.
MiRNAs have been studied extensively since their discovery ten years ago, and have been
implicated as players in several human diseases including cancer, Alzheimer's, and diabetes.


The study is here: Cross Kingdom Regulation by microRNA

So, we are seeing the fallout already, since GMO were widely allowed into the food
chain around 1990, that is about 23 years, and one can make comparisons to the
health of those nations who will not allow GMO crops, to say...the U.S. where nearly
all of the major food stuffs have GMO ingredients.

New Review Links Roundup to Diabetes, Autism, Infertility and Cancer


A new peer-reviewed scientific review paper has been released in the US stating that glyphosate-based herbicides such as Roundup are contributing to gastrointestinal disorders, obesity, diabetes, heart disease, depression, autism, infertility, cancer and Alzheimer’s disease.

The review paper states that “glyphosate enhances the damaging effects of …food borne chemical residues and environmental toxins. Negative impact on the body is insidious and manifests slowly over time as inflammation damages cellular systems throughout the body. Here, we show how interference with CYP enzymes acts synergistically with disruption of the biosynthesis of aromatic amino acids by gut bacteria, as well as impairment in serum sulfate transport. Consequences are most of the diseases and conditions associated with a Western diet, which include gastrointestinal disorders, obesity, diabetes, heart disease, depression, autism, infertility, cancer and Alzheimer’s disease.”

sustainablepulse.com...
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posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 11:25 AM
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Its not only viruses they insert, but bacteria also.

More ignorance. Genes are not bacteria.



posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Its not only viruses they insert, but bacteria also.

More ignorance. Genes are not bacteria.


Who said they were? You?

I thought you were going to present your research?
Or are you here to just parce words?

Please, if you are going to call people liars, like you have you better present
your evidence, otherwise its just a Monsanto tactic to call ALL anti GMO research a lie.

Prove your accusations on all of it.
Otherwise, its your ignorance that is showing, thinking that "attacking"
others who research on the dangers of GMO is the way to go about intelligent discourse.



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posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 11:41 AM
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Studies show RNA from our food remains in our digestive system
therefore it affects our entire system, organs included.
Acutually you're wrong. The study showed that a particular type of miRNA was found in the serum and liver of animals when they were fed very high levels of the substance.

Here's what the authors of the study said about it:

Although a very large amount of single-stranded mature plant MIR168a can affect LDLRAP1 levels in HepG2 cells (Supplementary information, Figure S3C-S3H), it is unlikely that such high concentrations of mature plant miRNAs can be achieved in serum, plasma and organs of humans or animals via food intake.

www.nature.com...

The study had nothing to do with GMOs, it was about a particular miRNA that may have an affect on cholesterol levels.

Oh, wait. There's more:

Given that exogenous miRNAs in food or miRNAs that are 'added' into the food can enter the circulation and various organs of animals and play a role in regulating the physiological or pathophysiological conditions, food-derived exogenous miRNAs may be qualified as a novel nutrient component, like vitamins and minerals.

So, surprise! RNA is food. Who would have thunk it? We eat it every day don't we?



So, we are seeing the fallout already, since GMO were widely allowed into the food
chain around 1990, that is about 23 years, and one can make comparisons to the
health of those nations who will not allow GMO crops, to say...the U.S. where nearly
all of the major food stuffs have GMO ingredients.
Are you claiming the study has something to do with GMOs? It doesn't. It is about all foods which contain RNA. Hmm. That would be just about all food.
More ignorance being spread. More distortion.
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posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 11:46 AM
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Who said they were? You?

You did.:

Its not only viruses they insert, but bacteria also.

Bacteria are not "inserted". Bacterial genes are. Apparently you didn't even read your own external quote.

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posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 11:55 AM
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To not get into any politics and whatever...

If the US (and many parts of the world) are truly in a "free market" where the people make informed decisions on what they buy -- then imo accurate labeling of each produce is imperative. Already products are labeled per laws of their ingredients, it should be no problem to make a print a little more ink on the package labeling a part of it transgenic GMO, and then pin the cost on the end consumer.

Maybe the "free market" really existed and transgenic GMO labeling were allowed, a real "free market" could exist where the consumer would really dictate the market. The consumer would be informed of their product if transgenic GMO or not. Nowadays in most places of the world, however, the people's food includes ingredients processed to some degree, bought, using machine processed ingredients, or who knows what and where it comes from. Not to mention the water people drink daily. If the human body is 50-60% water, then maybe you are what you drink more than what you eat =)

At this point in time it's already too late (again imo, call me a pessimist).. Enjoy your life to the fullest!



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