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Originally posted by anonentity
Originally posted by Harte
No bottleneck 12kya.
The great pyramid was never underwater.
There is no seaport at Titicaca.
"All" of humankind does not have a flood myth, though it's true that floods happen everywhere.
There is no such thing as the Gulf of Cathay. Cathay is an old name for China. You mean the "Gulf of Cambay," actually the Gulf of Khambat, and there's no city there and the only thing dated was a dredged up piece of driftwood.
Antarctic ice hasn't melted in a at least half a million years.
There exist no ancient maps of an "ice free" Antarctica. Greenland was basically ice free when the Vikings got there (during the Medieval Warm Period.) The little ice age, which only ended during the American Civil War, put an end to the ice free status.
Perhaps you could come up with something that actually happened?
Yeh it was the Gulf of Khambat I missed the edit time. Greenland ice free? No sunken city under Khambat? If I said Aluminium occurred naturally , you would say it dosn't.
Originally posted by Baddogma
reply to post by anonentity
The main points, like the meteor event from 12,000 yrs ago that wiped out the American mega fauna, are valid, especially in light of the recent finds of meteoric debris in the "Black Matte" layer. The fact is, a continent teaming with huge mammals was cleared of them geologically overnight.
Picking at the mis-info, (which exists in reams in relation to this topic, to be fair) is good in that it teaches, but that people achieved some form of higher civilization (and this doesn't mean steel skyscrapers) in the past is pointed to in "myth/legend," occasional OOPs, dna migration studies and most of all in the fact that we have been in our present forms for at least half a million years.
My dna likes a civilized existence. Extrapolating from that, I'd think my ancestors would've liked living in communities where life was easier... could be wrong, but the evidence of our past is darn scant (beyond 5,000 bce), on both sides of the past civilization argument. So what I'm saying, if it matters, is it's certainly possible whether naturally occurring aluminum was used in a belt buckle or not.
Just because some of the evidence is anything but, doesn't mean the notion lacks any merit... baby... bathwater, blah blah...edit on 8/4/2013 by Baddogma because: scant beyond recent history
Originally posted by Baddogma
reply to post by Hanslune
To be fair, it's not actually a theory... it's speculation that's just shy of "wild."
There have been some weird things found around the world, and it is true that if something too advanced is found in a context that's too old, it is relegated to the fraud or mis-ID'd pile without too much fuss.
The fact that cultures have stories about past higher civilizations is odd, too, if there's nothing to it... and it isn't just Plato.
But you are right in that there isn't a smoking gun... but I won't be flabbergasted if one turns up someday. And by smoking gun, I don't mean Atlantis necessarily, just signs of ever older civilization.
But then, that's probably just my lack of education showing...