This topic is a spin-off from a thread I had with ATS member Hanslume www.abovetopsecret.com...
the Canaries were brought up in connection with Carthaginian migration, a question aroused were the Carthaginians Africans,my answer is yes but any
quick study will tell us that they came from the Levant and so could not be Africans I have long looked into this and here is what I found.
Khart Haddast or Carthage was said to be founded at about 814 B.C by Phoenician colonizers..under a legendary Queen Dido. but what do we know of both
civilizations in terms of culture and ethnic origins. were the people biologicially Africans...Eur-Asians..A combination of the two?..and was that
reflected in the culture as well?... simplistic questions of simply were they black or white will not do..first a look at the founding fathers of the
Carthaginians..the Phoenicians who were they really?
From the very beginning as any good Sunday school student knows..the Canaanites the original name of the people was the son of Ham brother of Misriem
brother of Kush. Making Canaan the only one of Ham's sons to fall out-side Africa...But wait!! fall out side Africa politically but if we were to go
by the actual tectonic plates then it falls within Africa geographically.
African Tectonic Plate follow the line up to Turkey.
But many here will say come on Spider plates shlamtes non is gonna buy Laventines as Africans most of all the majority of lavantines themselves.
But what about ancient biological and cultural grounds.
The history of human migrations from Africa into West Eurasia is only partially understood. Archaeological and genetic evidence indicate that
anatomically modern humans arrived in Europe from an African source at least 45,000 years ago, following the initial dispersal out of Africa , .
However, it is known that Southern Europeans and Levantines (people from modern day Palestine, Israel, Syria and Jordan) have also inherited genetic
material of African origin due to subsequent migrations. One line of evidence comes from Y-chromosome  and mitochondrial DNA analyses –.
These have identified haplogroups that are characteristic of sub-Saharan Africans in Southern Europeans and Levantines but not in Northern Europeans
. Auton et al.  presented nuclear genome-based evidence for sharing of sub-Saharan African ancestry in some West Eurasians, by identifying a
North-South gradient of haplotype sharing between Europeans and sub-Saharan Africans, with the highest proportion of haplotype sharing observed in
south/southwestern Europe. However, none of these studies used genome-wide data to estimate the proportion of African ancestry in West Eurasians, or
the date(s) of mixture. Throughout this report, we use “African mixture” to refer to gene flow into West Eurasians since the divergence of
the latter from East Asians; thus, we are not referring to the much older dispersal out of Africa ~45,000 years ago but instead to migrations that
have occurred since that time.
The above is important because even before the time of PepyII who settled thousands of troops from the deep south as far away as Wawat,Yam,Irejet etc
in that tiny corridor, Nile valley Africans were present so much so that the Levantines took on a Nile Valley character in addition to their original
culture and that was reflected through out their history.
The Kemetic/ Pheonician connection..due to the Kemites lack of big trees..they imported large amounts of Lebanese Pines that they also used for their
ships.In fact the very name Phoenician may very well derived from the kemitic word,Fenekhu, which some Egyptologist have suggested means
Phoenician Identity crisis;Renan's first major discovery was a group of stone slabs inscribed with Egyptian hieroglyphs.next he found a large
bas-relief portraying what happened to be the Egyptian goddess Hathor,her head adorned with the cows horn sun disk,exactly as she appeared on Egyptian
reliefs. Later excavators at Byblos turned up more in the same vain-Egyptian-style obelisks,a multitude of vessels bearing the insignia of the
Egyptian Pharaohs,A magnificent temple of Hathor dating from the 3rd millennium B.C. Indeed everywhere archaeologist turned in Phoenicia, they seemed
to stumble across the specter of Egypt:
We should not be so surprised to find Babylos so Egyptianized .The city had spent much of it's early history under Egypt's Imperial thumb. At least as
early as the 12th dyn.according to Egyptologist David O Conner,Babylos "functioned to some degree as a vassal state of Egypt. It remained so for the
The above taken from Black Spark White Fire.
So there you have it the Phoenicians even if they did not originally came from further south which they might have ,they received such massive
influence from Kemet that at one point their culture became almost indistinguishable from that of Kemet.So at the very least we can say the
Phoenicians where part African in culture..even before they made the trip to become Carthaginians...and just by casual eyeballing some look very much
like their neighbors to the south.
(Canaanite) Soldier and Egyptian wife
However- just keeping it real - So some folks looked like what some West-Asians usually look like. some looked and dressed like Africans. Not to
mention the remains found at Lakish:The excavation uncovered a mass of human bones,which was estimated to from the remains of fifteen hundred
individuals..remains of 695 skulls were brought to London by the British expedition...curiously,the crania indicate a close resemblance to the
population of Egypt at this time...the relationships found suggest that the population of the town in 700 B.C was entirely of Egyptian origin..they
show further,that the population of lakish was probably derived from upper Egypt.
James E Brunson:
Specifications: Diameter: 18 cm and height: 2 cm; Bronze bowl with Egyptian motifs, Phoenician style, dating to about 8th century BC, and Found at
Nimrud, northern Iraq; excavation ID - ME N59
All courtesy of exploring-africa.blogspot.jp...
Canaan (Phoenician: , Kana'n, Hebrew: כנען kna-an, Arabic: كنعان Kanaʿān) is an ancient term for a region encompassing modern-day Israel
and Lebanon, the Palestinian Territories, plus adjoining coastal lands and parts of Jordan, Syria and northeastern Egypt. In the Hebrew Bible, the
"Land of Canaan" extends from Lebanon southward across Gaza to the "Brook of Egypt" and eastward to the Jordan River Valley, thus including modern
Israel and the Palestinian Territories. In far ancient times, the southern area included various ethnic groups. The Amarna Letters found in Ancient
Egypt mention Canaan (Akkadian: Kinaḫḫu) in connection with Gaza and other cities along the Phoenician coast and into Upper Galilee. Many earlier
Egyptian sources also make mention of numerous military campaigns conducted in Ka-na-na, just inside Asia. Various Canaanite sites have been
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