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That's a pretty bold statement to make given the unbelievably wide experiences people have. Then there's are we talking "distortion" or are we talking, full on another world? I've had both and believe me they are completely different experiences and not really related to each other at all save for lazy analysis
Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
Either it's a hallucination generated from within people's heads or it's an alternate reality that is being perceived.
Originally posted by Bluesma
Please forgive me, I did not read all the previous responses.
When I and my family were having these experiences and I went looking for information and research on it, Dr. Mack was the only one I found who seemed to have a good comprehension of what the experience is like for the experiencer, and the longer term effects upon the mind. We ended up getting into contact with his Institute to get help for our son who was two at the time and traumatized, and we didn't know how to deal with it.
There was a huge spiritual type of "awakening" that happened during/after, but I cannot claim to be sure that that was the goal or motivation of these beings, or the interactions. -Which is what Mack sometimes tends to lean towards.
What seems very clear to me is that having an experience which puts into question my most base beliefs about reality is what touched off a sudden spiritual crisis. I did not believe in ETs, was not into UFO stories, and yet was having very clear experiences in full daylight and conscious awareness that simply could not exist.
So this made everything crumble in my mind. Suddenly I realized I know nothing, I can trust nothing, I cannot find any grip on "knowledge" of reality or even my own existence, much less anyone elses.
My point being, a spiritual crisis can be set off in natives coming into contact with other people from totally unknown civilisations, that doesn't mean the newcomers MEANT to have that effect on them.
It could be an unintentional, beneficial, side effect.
I also experienced a "remembering" of having agreed to this much earlier- like before my physical birth in this manifestation. A lot of "memories" about the nature of the universe and consciousness seemed to "awaken" in me.... but now, in retrospect, I find myself putting those into question.
I have studied the effect of integrating, or identifying with, things or beings, and how it empowers one subjectively. How, in any situation, if you choose to percieve that you "chose" this, then that gives one much more power to change it- both psychologically and physically.
My perceptions could have been a coping mechanism. They were certainly effective in that usage, as my perception that I had the power to choose this or choose otherwise was the root of how I put an end to the experiences. It is that which gave me the self confidence and will to decide it will stop.
I am somewhat glad now that I did not get hypnotized or anything, or had any therapist who would have encouraged the terrorized victim characterization (I went to a psychiatrist and a psychoanalyst, neither had any interest, or knowledge of the UFO or abduction phenomena). Because if they had encouraged such a view, it would have been more detrimental to me, I suspect.
In the end, I still don't have any beliefs about the ultimate nature of the experience. There are various possibilities, and at this point I just don't care.
Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
reply to post by FireMoon
But what we are talking about here is a whole reality projected as if it exists out there with no real way to explain the content. Interacting with other intelligences in landscapes that we have no personal reference for. When we explore this subject, inevitably you come to this impasse. Skeptic or believer you have to entertain both possibilities. Either it's a hallucination generated from within people's heads or it's an alternate reality that is being perceived. Either of those seem rather unpalatable I imagine.edit on 5-8-2013 by ZetaRediculian because: (no reason given)