urgent: how the Soul is soon to be Ruled by Crystalline Will [ luna and Moon V ]

Originally posted by LittleByLittle
Is it not funny for you OP that you need to have two sides fighting over you and against god.

If you could agree with all the above, then it sure looks like a War between two different Metaphysical sides . - With the human Soul as Prize. …the one Side wanting to give Souls back their once original Gorgeous Beings while the other side wants to Pimp Up this present physical frame by Crystalline / kundalini …the one Side wanting this so much that He came down to have this prison frame done away with while The other side was killing every soul who was a serious threat for this …the one Side wanting back Heaven on Earth again while the other side seeks to Invade Heaven using human as Shield - I could continue on some more but you get the point.

Have you ever meet a person who have kundalini activated? Are the followers of any religion or dogma? Are they easy to tell do this or that when they have no good reason for it?

They always go their own road and normally are very focused and can take spiritual information form all sources and put it into the right context thru experiance. Just because you think they go against the bible does not mean they are not doing exactly what god wants them todo. Revalation is all about kundalini and the sealed ones are the ones who have achieved it.

- i have tried to avoid the Bible but untill the end of the OP, LBL
because i wanted to describe the line through History, which i think many of us could agree on ;
and then, at the end, make their own [!] decision about the context

- i did not say i dont respect persons who work to have their kundalini activated ; because yes they are hardworking souls, often have much knowledge about a wide range of topics - therefore i m double Sorry for them. And to answer your question : no love i never encountered one, in person. If you think that this discredits my opinion, then i ll be glad to tell you the encounters i had with the deities who rúle the chakras, and the chakras themselves.

... i am sorry that you consider Revelation talking about these enlightened kundalini ones.
I can assure you, it is Not.

however,
there IS another parable speaking about these :
the Uninvited Wedding Guest
...who, obviously, made it into the wedding diner [ dimension]
but had no wedding garment [ that is: no New Gorgious Being ]
and therefore was being closed outside.

thanks for responding LBL , i appreciate

reply to post by Lone12

“egalité, fraternité és liberté” was a Joke, since all 3 had already been made to be but Object by this Awareness. And "liberté"..? - whoever Disagreed, lost his head through devices which were most Functional in killing

liberté means freedom/liberty.

Why should anybody's freedom be respected if they don't care about anyone else's freedom?

The punishment is debatable. Maybe someone would say chopping another person's head off is too extreme of a punishment, but the basic system itself is FAIR.

Respect everyone's free-will or your free-will will not be respected. What goes around comes around.

reply to post by LittleByLittle


....though i agree with you,
that the 7 churches must be about these different aspects of the I Awareness
- but then in the sense that "souls have to CONQUER them" [ and not subdue tó them, like kundalini wants]

...i m not sure if those 7 aspects can be translated directly to "the 7 chakras"
or perhaps depict more the consciousnesses, which the chakras represent

hope i formulated that right

...at any rate, yes it appears that "Laodicea" is about "sight"- the brow
"Ephesus" about "submission" - the root
"Philadelphia" about rule - the crown
etc

so, God has created a situation, in which these types of souls go through a real-time Playout,
a playout [ in their lives] of real events,
but carrying the *aspects* which represent these [chakra] consciousnesses,
but to conquer the latter -
not to incorporate them

...because Revelation is clear enough, that the only 1 thing, a person can bring with him, is his own Soul
- and He will 'clothe' that soul with a new, stunning Being.

kind regards

Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Lone12

 

“egalité, fraternité és liberté” was a Joke, since all 3 had already been made to be but Object by this Awareness. And "liberté"..? - whoever Disagreed, lost his head through devices which were most Functional in killing

liberté means freedom/liberty.

Why should anybody's freedom be respected if they don't care about anyone else's freedom?

The punishment is debatable. Maybe someone would say chopping another person's head off is too extreme of a punishment, but the basic system itself is FAIR.

Respect everyone's free-will or your free-will will not be respected. What goes around comes around.

yes arpgme the gist of the above is True.
and civil laws to protect peoples freedoms have always existed; from the 10 commandments to Hammarib 's sumerian laws [ always forget what is that correct name]

...but the point of the french enlightening was, that it Installed a new Type of general Awareness - the Subjective consciousness ; and everyone who opposed that awáreness was murdered by It.
And today, that is still going on.
Because every person, who doesnt agree with the Correct Opinion, is outcasted.
*grin* otherwise, why we are here on ATS..?

ofcourse today the literal killing isnt used no more -
but i see around me many, many, mány souls, who are Trapped into this Subjective Awareness
slave of it
and our society, built around this awareness, to sustain and support it,
and souls are reduced to Consumers only
..with their only "freedom" left, to "can choose whát brand of peanutbutter they want from the store"

you see please ? - the entire concept of Freedom has been Downgraded [ by this awareness]
- it used to be a Freedom of Personal relation to Creation
honourful
deep
meaningful

...but today, its become only a concept within ones own mind
the meaning of "freedom" has been replaced by a complete Trivial content
with the goal to close up a soul within his own mind

regards,

reply to post by arpgme


[not to drag on]
but today, we are doing nothing but "projecting the images we have in our own mind, upon others"

..therefore even sex has become a most lonely business to the soul,
because [especially the male] has miriad subconscious Images in his brow - placed there by this Awareness-
and projects them upon the female he is with
yet both souls never make contact ; never meet

... and all of society [ which is steered by this Awareness ]
fórces this subjective prison upon everyone : "inventing" mobile phones, videogames, anything to strenghten the subjective prison

infringing free will..?
no - today that isnt done literally anymore
but millions of male watch porn - connecting their energy to the entire history of the female they watch
killing themsélves by that, step by step
making themselves unable to withstand that Awareness anymore.

reply to post by Lone12

Originally posted by Lone12
but millions of male watch porn - connecting their energy to the entire history of the female they watch

or male if they are attracted to other men. Also, some women also watch porn.

People always refer to "males" and "females in porn" as if gay or bisexual males and females don't watch it.

It is true that freedom is in the mind, probably not completely but it is at some level.

If you are always afraid to do what you want,
then you are enslaved by your own mind.

If you don't love yourself and always care about what others think of you,
then you are enslaved by your own mind and the opinions of others.

You can get back SOME of the freedom, by not caring what others think of you and focusing on loving yourself so that you can have the courage to do what you love in life and to express yourself.

Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Lone12

 

Originally posted by Lone12
but millions of male watch porn - connecting their energy to the entire history of the female they watch

or male if they are attracted to other men. Also, some women also watch porn.

People always refer to "males" and "females in porn" as if gay or bisexual males and females don't watch it.

It is true that freedom is in the mind, probably not completely but it is at some level.

If you are always afraid to do what you want,
then you are enslaved by your own mind.

If you don't love yourself and always care about what others think of you,
then you are enslaved by your own mind and the opinions of others.

You can get back SOME of the freedom, by not caring what others think of you and focusing on loving yourself so that you can have the courage to do what you love in life and to express yourself.

..." focussing on loving yourself "...

i dont think we ll get on the same line arpgme

best of luck,

I am tired and will re-read this tomorrow, but I read all of your posts and somehow did not understand how activating Kundalini is a negative thing? If it is then I am in trouble because Kundalini has taken over my life and I live in a state of joy most of the time. Not all the time, but it is hard to keep me down for long for anything and I keep coming back to it even when inappropriate.

I have come to embrace the things that hurt almost as much as the things that are positive, as I believe that is largely a construct of the human mind, not the soul. The positive and the negative, the yin and the yang are all a part of the whole that is the souls learning experience.

Coming to this state of mind has only happened through much getting to recognize what "I" am and that happened slowly through meditation with positive and healing intent. Am I struggling in the wrong direction? (In your opinion of course)

Just asking for some clarification on how you think Kundalini effects the overall spiritual "me". I have my own ideas on all of that, but like I said I am tired tonight so wanted to post and star and flag your thread.

I think this was a fantastic and well thought out and insightful thread and I thank you very much for putting your ideas down for us to peruse.

Peace...

Originally posted by Lone12
Anyway, I hope you agree with me, that *first* a person is [unknowingly] choosing his belief about a matter
[or rephrased; first the person Chooses a Consciousness] and only thén is supporting and proving it by reason.

What you are suggesting is the reason why the entire world is completely screwed. It is the reason why science almost exclusively relies on reductionist analysis methods, and why religion exists at all.

You have identified that belief is a choice, which is entirely correct - however you have failed to identify what the process looks like, what actual 'stuff' is effected by belief, and why humans do it.

You also make the EXCRUCIATING error in assuming a belief is a choice between two options, true or false - THAT IS THE ENTIRE PROBLEM BEHIND EVERYTHING!! EVER!! The real choice, is between believing, or understanding (non belief).

So, to answer my own questions - the process of believing something requires a selection of data to be altered from an unknown state, to a known state. With all related information being forced into a state of either true or false. This utterly destroys the original state of the information, this process also requires conflicting information to be discarded, or biased into a new state that is not in conflict with the belief - and for any new information that conflicts with the belief to be rejected, or twisted so as to conform to the belief.

Belief ALWAYS destroys, biases and rejects data. Human beings can understand (meanings) but we cant KNOW (truth) - but for some reason we think we can, and think we are gods.

The real reason people believe things is because its an economy of the mind. If we do something, and it works - then we say - well, whatever lead to that successful result must be true. That means we dont have to keep thinking about whatever it was, and we can allow the mind to move onto new tasks.

We chose to believe because our bodies exist inside a state of physical reality that is governed by logic - and to make it easier for our bodies, fkn moron people allow the rules of physical reality to begin to infect their minds.

THE MIND IS NOT CONSTRAINED BY THE RULES OF PHYSICAL REALITY - PEOPLE NEED TO STOP BEHAVING AS IF IT WAS.

The proper place for that most unvirtuous piece of mental trash that is called logic, is as a thin barrier around the mind - a barrier that separates the mind from physical reality.

Information coming in should never be tested by logic, but every action, or set of actions needs to be tested by logic - meaning we need to assume some information is true or false whenever we act. We should allow the information to resume its previous state of being UNKNOWN afterwards.

The extent of reality is the limit of our perceptions, and our perception is based on the information we have, and the ability of our mind to extrapolate, interpolate and synthesize that information.

Belief is for people who are trapped in a false reality - where the body defines its boundaries, not the mind.

Logic is an infection of the mind, that destroys information inside the mind, filters and distorts incoming information - it is utterly destructive to allow belief and logical process to infect the mind.

Logic is vitally important to determine the actions of the body, it is entirely damaging if allowed to create structures and processes in the mind - the foundation of logic is truth, belief and facts, Discard these concepts entirely and you will begin to perceive the world as it is, not as you believe it to be.

- interesting development ;

"BBC apologizes for showing this picture in her morning program"



now ofcourse this isnt a Slipup. .
And though it was but a short clip, it certainly isnt 'subliminal'.
But shown on Purpose.
... see few posts above - it is this Awareness which rules the Brow

and that They show it on 'the crownprince',
the message They give is " the Brow [chakra] still Rules".

..the phallus being the typical symbol of Rule of this Awareness
osiris/saturn symbol

See nile vedic link, see brahma abraham...somehow triumverate linked...ka ba la - chakra tree...seen...

Kunda lini rising, awakened...is not always self propelled, self defined or directed...any haphazard, accidental, foolish awakening is not altogether pleasant...'I'm in a loony farm now and satan made me do it'

The vehicular adam was a trick...
But the wheel can be up-spun and released like a catherine wheel to spin forever outside a box of atomic slime...good trick...but, I do like watching copperfield and angel plying a craft...

The correspondences are waaay convoluted (not yours OP)...as usual, they don't always stack neatly to stand without toppling, even after rearrangement...it's Jenga heaven, if you've got the patience...and don't get distracted by walls of tech that glitter like mirror balls, each mirror another series of computational file management manouevres seemingly out of our control...

'Harvesting' happens non-time...doesn't need to be dependant on slime to envelop...but the impetus to harvest is dominated by the notion of planting...souls already there need planting, why? Why a wheel to escape? Why ethereal to seemingly solid and back again?

Not so much 2 conflicting purposes...overlayed purposes, more like it...FREE WILL and it's annoying off-ramps...

The 'war' was fought and won...but the machinery from the overlayed purposes remains...otherwise, annihilate the lot, Oh Supreme One...that hasn't happened, but requires a mere thought...

Cheers

Å99

...okay ;
- i didnt include this in the OP cause it would deviate too much ;
but below is the egyptian symbol of Rule, the Shen :



..you notice the ring - precession - connected to Earth [the 4 cardinal directions ; do please realize that this is a 2D depiction, so the Bar is actually a cross. Also note the "unnatural connection" between both ; by means of a rope being tied together - "unnatural" because the Awareness has Usurped rule ]

..if you remember the chakras depiction,
then the upper 3 chakras - the head - are the Masculine Attribute [ which is Rule / spiritual Authority ] ,
the lower 4 depict Everything Of Earth - the Feminine Attribute [ which is Love ]

what has this Awareness done, after the Fall ..?
- it has Reserved for Itself the 3 male chakras - Rule - which ariginally were Adams ;
and the Awareness has been ruling earth [ and female ! ] THROUGH Male.
using Male as Its puppet
..many, many women have found male to be rigid.. one-sided...a big child... - yet they couldnt do without him. But the reason he s obsessed with his phallus [ so to speak] is because the Awareness rules him by it. Hence the symbol of the Awareness rule is the phallus.

- but it makes Complete Sense,
that the Awareness rules most Males : in ORDER to can keep Ruling this world.

...the original situation of Eden....was that "Eve's gorgious being was Within Adam's ....and Adam's within God". But this sweet, powerful Concept got Seperated by the Fall... even Literally, into 2 individual beings - and now, kundalini tells that "both male and female need to ignite their own set of chakras"... - not true ! Thay will only become 2 seperate entities, who will be still Ruled by this Awareness !
even the Shen tells you, though Distorted, that the córrect concept is "female within male" !




and then that other, awful symbol, the Ankh - depicting Artificial Life -

same 2D here: so please imagine the Bar being a cross
... - the ring of the ankh shows the flow of energies around the head how the energy is Turning back upon itself ; because it is not connected to God. That the deities always "held this symbol in their hand" simply means they ruled humans energy fields.



refuses to imbed - mercedes superbowl ad - at 1.22 min you see the ankh
www.youtube.com...
...if you care to see, just hów [natural] Male is being lured into remaining a slave from this Awareness, using every trick in Its book on him, then do watch

but a bit on purpose Distorted one : it is the same symbol that is written XP, the alleged [!] symbol of Christ - but, in fact from Osiris ofcourse

oh right,
- related to prince Williams pic above -

..i woke from a dream yesterday [i dream very much, and find them most helpful - though usually i but only understand a dream áfter the events happened...grin]
anyway
i sat at a table, with a medical Doctor to my left, and a young female -whom i couldnt see - to my right. Now in real life, the females name is "Theodora"and she has a physical handicap relating to her arm.

..i had no courage though to look into the doctors face - cause i knew it was a horrible Distortion of a face ; and i also knew that the doctor knew everything about the handicap of the woman.
Finally i had the courage to look in his face : it was horrible ; his mouth was not where it should be, neither his eyes, and they were Bulging out of its sockets
- i woke from fear

so later
i understood the symbolism here,
"the Brow being responsible for the handicap of all those He loves ' " [since theodora means 'gift of God' ]

I enjoyed reading your thread. I had a strong UFO experience as a child and had a interest in it and the sky ever since. I also remember being younger and constantly questioning who put the moon there and why does it not spin.

I would like to know what their purpose is in enslaving us. Does it give them power, are they bored, or are they actually taking some backwards path to help with our evolution(or so it seems to me)?

Hopefully we'll find our answers in the end, good luck on your journey.

Good Lord, woman/OP, you have picked apart several modern, ancient and mythological ideologies/theologies and sewed them together as New Age fact.

No... thanks.

Originally posted by kazootica
I enjoyed reading your thread. I had a strong UFO experience as a child and had a interest in it and the sky ever since. I also remember being younger and constantly questioning who put the moon there and why does it not spin.

I would like to know what their purpose is in enslaving us. Does it give them power, are they bored, or are they actually taking some backwards path to help with our evolution(or so it seems to me)?

Hopefully we'll find our answers in the end, good luck on your journey.

edit on 2-8-2013 by kazootica because: (no reason given)

- thanks for reading KZ
yes i believe your expierience
yes it will give them power - ultimate power, if you will

best wishes

Originally posted by TheOd
Good Lord, woman/OP, you have picked apart several modern, ancient and mythological ideologies/theologies and sewed them together as New Age fact.

- No.

..but nice of you to stop by TO

regards

reply to post by Lone12

TY, L12 if not then exactly what is this tome-post of yours all about...in 50 words or way less.

reply to post by Coopdog



thank you for the personal reply Coopdog

..how should i respond to you..
*pondering*
.. every Soul seeks to be happy ; most try to reach that within the setting of their everyday things ; but some, as yourself, need to find peace on a different level...right
And the course you had, brought you to where you are now.
Trust me - i m very sure that you fought hard - it shows in your lines
...i can only say, that, i think, it appears that i have been going the ópposite course as you did.
Does that make sense..?

..just like you are describing yóur expierience , i can only tell what i myself have learned...right..- because i have no authority to have an opinion about things i have not been through.

point here,
that virtually most of my life, i was 'under' spiritual heavy 'things' , first i had to learn What exactly were those... whether i was crazy or not.. but studying Psychology didnt help... neither philosophy... because They would not Go Away ... so i had to find the Context of whý They obviously had some Legal Right to stay.
- and from that moment, years ago, They got Personal, and even móre powerful : worse, i had to find out, that there are "ranks" by Them - the best description of that is what the apostle Paul named "Powers and Thrones" .

um.. a good example of how They work, using these Ranks, is the anahata heart chakra example in the OP. Their method is, to imprison some Aspect of us, of human, and then to form Ring within ring of Guards - and the stronger Guards "protecting" the smaller guards.
This same concept is all over the Pyramid Texts as well.

now.. i came to learn that Their náme is equivalent to their Character. It seems that, in that Dimension, a name has very much power - and depicts exactly the very essence of that particular deity or awareness. And also that a type of them carry Aspects : which are immediately related to this reality - including chakras.
I do understand, that for a soul who is working with chakras, he expieriences the overall functioning of them ; and i immediately believe, that this person will develop a "higher awareness of things" - which must be indeed a tranquillizing expierience for a soul who, otherwise, only knows himself Entrapped within this poor physical reality.

but
i have expirienced the deities - angelic beings - who are *behind* those energies -
....and thát is the thing i m trying to bring across by this thread....see.

- if i would write direct about 'deities' and 'angelic beings', no sensible soul on ATS would read
*grin* true..?
so i made the attempt to just put the facts as i understood them, into context,
so that everyone of us can make his or her own decision

My own conclusion came to be, that yes there are "aliens", interdimensional humanoids, biblical Watchers, and [ fallen] archangels - but i have to place all of them in the same corner ;
and i will choose the other corner : Gods.

Perhaps you think it strange - but i suppose the above should be my response to you

kind regards to you,

Originally posted by Lone12


but
i have expirienced the deities - angelic beings - who are *behind* those energies -
....and thát is the thing i m trying to bring across by this thread....see.

Then just say that. Really.