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The Chilling History of How Hollywood Helped Hitler

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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 04:54 PM
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I'm probably going to have a read of this book since I very much love film history, but I have to say that some of it is perhaps being over sensational and perhaps even ignorant on first glance?

The 1930s to 1950s were a unique time in media production really. Given the House of Un-American Affairs was made after World War II you could say the Germans taught the Americans something. Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will and other works show how much Hitler cared about the media. Still ... Americans were already on that boat and recutting of films for cultural reasons is still happening even in decline.

I will see when I read the book but Hollywood has been and always will be at the mercy of any country that provides significant revenue. From digitally altering the names of electronics companies in Schwarzenegger films to avoid offense, to renaming Captain America, and hiring a VFX team to change Pizza Hut to Taco Bel its all about the money.

In some ways this is why the Nazis were a God send to Hollywood ... they were so heavily demonized it set a standard that was to keep obscure German actors in jobs for decades to come and no one could claim offense.

I can understand that it looks awfully like 'cahoots' but freedom of speech in the 40s simply wasn't the institution it is today and nor was film distribution. We don't live in that world any more and that's precisely why our voices have become so diverse (and possibly offensive).

Online distribution and no gate keepers actually means less controllable cahoots with no captive audience so I'm not sure its Hollywood we have to worry about any more. If you've seen Ironman 3, Ben Kingsley's character is more what we have to worry about ... if anything war coverage from the U.S has taught me, its that fact checking has gone out the window along with half the belongings in your house.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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I found this new information on hollyweird just put the icing on the cake and believe it is still pertinent because they are still using their power.

Do you agree?

Yesterday I was watching that series Siberia, at the end of the show a glyph showed up just a flash I rewound it several times.

I have seen it before, it is ancient script, but I haven't found it yet.

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They are using their power as much as they can. Look at how dumbed down America has become just about everything they learn is from tv and movies. Like the glyph you mention is another way of training people to do as they want. Your conscious mind barely picked it up but your subconscious has a HD picture of it they call it subliminal messaging.
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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 05:16 PM
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What's more, if you look at the history up in the hills around Hollywood it's quite a bizarre place.
I know this has made rounds around ATS before but just consider the CIA's Lookout Mountain Laboratory.



Over its lifetime, the studio produced some 19,000 classified motion pictures – more than all the Hollywood studios combined

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And the Nazi compound in Rustic Canyon.



According to local historians, Murphy’s daughter Winona and her husband Norman fell prey to a Nazi sympathizer named Herr Schmidt. Schmidt convinced them that he had supernatural powers and that America would soon fall to the Third Reich and be rebuilt under German rule.


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Just some food for thought.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 05:20 PM
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I think I remember that on a documentary.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 05:23 PM
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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 05:25 PM
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Thank you for you perspective Pinke, puts things in an interesting light.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 05:30 PM
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Having read the article, the op is asking is this about money or is it about something else, with what all is coming out of Hollywood.

Before we look and try to answer that question a brief history of Hollywood may be in order and we go from there.


Hollywood was a small community in the 1870's. Later it merged with the city of Los Angeles. Motion pictures came about in 1867, with the zoopraxiscope, later on, the first camera, that used moving films was invented in 1895. In 1891, the Edison company managed to show the Kinetoscope and in 1896, came up with an improved version of the Vitascope, the first commercially successful projector in the USA. This was at a time when monopolies were common and those who had them would do anything to protect them, and thus the company called the Trust. It would endure and then end up getting dismantled by the Federal government. Before that time, any company caught filming for profit would risk being attacked. Hollywood was ideal, due to the favorable lighting condition and how close it was to the US/Mexico boarder.

But back to the history, as it turned out the independant companies located to Hollywood, as the prices were cheap, the weather ideal for doing movies and ultimately alot of the studios set up shop there. And all Sorts moves to that location as to be the new means of using a media to make money.

Well lets just say that the actual article that is mentioned, many people find shocking, yet is it? After all up until World War I, the business language and one that every one wanted to lear was German. It was a mark of education to learn German, to make a mark in the German world, with many business contracts. This would continue up until the out break of World War I, afterwhich German lost its prestige and position in the world. But it was still a large market, propering and benifiting.

So here is the question, you are out to make money, would you risk loosing a large market by offending a country? Like so many those in a dictatorship, offending the leader is a good way to get black balled. And it is not the first time that Hollywood and the entertainment industry had to make these kinds of decisions. After World War II, there was the McCarthy hearings and the number of people from Hollywood were forced out into the street all do with what they read, or who they associated with or even who worked for them. Take Charlie Chaplin, he was forced to leave the country all cause he did not believe in what the federal government was doing.

Hollywood was changing, TV started to raise up and funny, that there was one man who foresaw the potential for either good or evil that this new media posed to the general public. How errie that it was that in his speech given so long ago, where he pointed out that it would be this new media, the TV and entertainment industry that would either raise people up to where they were enlightened about issues of the day, or plunged down into ignorance.

Hollywood, has become part of a cog in the entertainment industry, where money dictates what is and is not produced, and it is the public that dictates what it will and will not tolerate.

While we may see such in the past as being bad, the question is how will it affect the future? After all if you look at the more recent films, it seems as though there is an Asian power, China, where the films do not show it in a negative light, if anything it is either positive or muted. I do wonder what is the next country to influence the entertainment industry will be.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 05:37 PM
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That was exactly my point thanks for sharing and I do see how the manipulate public opinion with their movies.



posted on Aug, 8 2013 @ 09:44 AM
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example

maybe

haven't seen it


'Elysium' director Neill Blomkamp, star Matt Damon deny movie has political agenda

Read more: www.foxnews.com...


The Hollywood Reporter calls it a “politically charged flight of speculative fiction.”

Newsmax refers to it “sci-fi socialism” and “political propaganda.”

Variety said its one of the “more openly socialist political agendas of any Hollywood movie in memory, beating the drum loudly not just for universal healthcare, but for open borders, unconditional amnesty and the abolition of class distinctions as well.”





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