XKeyscore: NSA tool collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet' - With Slides

BREAKING ON CNN:

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS! All of them that knew about this and even those who should have known. If and when the Revolution happens...this means not just removing from power or jailing them. This validates the death. In my humble opinion of course.

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I'm resigned to whatever fate brings me. Sounds corny but I've thought about it a lot. I love my country and its ideals. I'd do anything to preserve those ideals. Also means that losing isn't an option or else we'll be seeing each other in the Gulag someday.

They need to hurry up and get the chips in us before the politicians over in the US start yelling to ban porn, because the second those idiots try to ban the porn nobody is going to give a crap about the internet.

German protest at NSA - Dagger Complex

until govt comes to my face n stops me from doing the sadana idgaf. they can take everything away but me. only thing going to stop me from sadhana is a bulelt in my head.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
What I want to know is if we have this really powerful spy system...

Why do we still have terrorist attacks that seem like a surprise?
How did those mass jail breaks happen without them being prepared for it?

What's the point of all this surveillance if it doesn't prevent anything?

And if it did prevent something tragic, wouldn't they brag about it to convince us it's a good idea?
Why wouldn't they if they specifically choose not to defend it?

All I have are questions mostly.

Well sometimes to show how important something is, you have to show the consequences of it lacking. This reminds me of the novel Prometheus by R. Ludlum. Its the same thing...Data collection and monitoring what goes on in the world. As you recall in greek mythology, Prometheus was persecuted for giving fire to man. In a way Prometheus is the NSA. Our safety and freedoms come at a cost and as before prometheus (NSA or Snowden, hard to figure out this out since I believe in what NSA does but I also believe in transparency) gets persecuted

Dianne Feinstein today : "We would place the nation in jeopardy if we were to end these two programs". She later admitted she was exaggerating for dramatic effect in front of the cameras, and what she really meant to say was, "if we end spying on every single American, the evil terrorists will fly over here on magic carpets and behead every single American with box-cutters."

And cheer up people with this song

Not fair. I want to see my file.

"Well, it appears John B****** has a sex fetish. Throw the book at him on a future date to be determined."

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Well we gave the Internet System to The World.
The trade off is that we are going to observe what The World does with it.
There is no "Free Lunch".
But those folks in Banking managed to get a "Free Dinner" now didn't they.
Lets shine the crazy diamond on that target for a while and light up the prism.
It would be good practice before illuminating "The Lobby".

It is only a matter of time before they get trapped in "The Revolving Door".

S&F

So if a program collects everything a user does online, how does it link that to the person who did it?

I just cant wait til my court or interrogation date when I say yes yes yes yes on all charges and not even blink with a creepy grin on my face.


They hate when they cant get a reaction,make ya scared or go into protect mode.


Theres an evil out there that trumps the darkest of evil.

Heads up.

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Sure https will protect your session from others, but if the NSA wants your data IE: Facebook will gladly comply and hand it right over. They are either in a full compliance pact with each other or are facing lawsuit and fines if they don't and are forced to do it.

These parts are interesting....

...."Spread sheets containing mac addresses".

...."Show me all the exploitable machines in country X".

...."Show me all the VPN start-ups in country X, and give me data so I can decrypt and discover the users".


I don't know about you folks, but this is proof of the gov is clearly using black hat hacking techniques. This is like the devil calling a demon a bad guy.

Suggestion

Please maintain 100 yard distance from David Kevin Pevehouse Tx DL 11716172.



And for godsakes.....get a hubcap for your cars. Ya look ridiculous.

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Well...think about it - in any given internet session you log into your bank, you log in to your work email or personal email, you log into your insurance, you make a purchase with your credit card & never dispute it, etc.
Many of these sources have accounts established based on personal private information that further confirms your identity - it's not so much the single instance as it is an overwhelming preponderance of information to confirm the operator.

And that's only needed if they don't activate your webcam or microphone...and don't think they don't do it
I'm sure they'd take snap shots of everybody if they could (and I'm not saying they can't...I wouldn't be shocked if they said this already happens) - I'm sure they LOVE the laptops with the built in camera's & all the other devices with wifi connections & monitoring devices on them (ie, Kinect, iPod, voice activated anything...etc.)

I don't think we can really call it "paranoid" any more...it's pretty much a guarantee that they'll keep pushing the envelope - they can't help it.

So now if we have a web cam, we can show our asses to the nsa anytime we want. Think about it.

Originally posted by johnsequitur1221
Not fair. I want to see my file.

"Well, it appears John B****** has a sex fetish. Throw the book at him on a future date to be determined."

I'm not sure what laws US peeps have, but EU peeps should actually be able to demand to see their information from NSA due to laws that even the US are obliged to follow.

May be wrong though.

Just a few comments I want to make:

1) I often hear people , especially on sites like these, say things like, "Well, we already KNEW they were doing this." While that is true that many speculated, and accurately said domestic spying like this was possible and occuring.....this is actual PROOF. This is EVIDENCE, and not just evidence, but an emerging scandal and more or less creating the platform for global discussion on this kind of surveillance.

2) I think now more than ever, with the release of these slides by the Guardian, and new revelations from Snowden regarding not just prism, but now Xkeyscore, it is apparent that Edward Snowden is going to be revealing MUCH MORE than just Prism. Most of wondered why the federal government got its panties in a wad over Snowden....and I think now the picture is becoming clear. I think Prism, and the initial release to the press, was just the beginning phase of Edward Snowden's whistleblowing. I think we are going to see a LOT more revealed. I think his mission to blow the whistle was planned, and well executed....not just a spur of the moment decision. He more than likely was snooping around, and searching for evidence LONG ago. The very letter his father wrote to Obama should give insight into Snowden's mindset. He is a man on mission, and the government knows this. I'm eager to see what else he reveals.

3) As mentioned in #2, I think Prism and Xkeyscore are the tip of the iceberg. What else are we going to find out?

4) This should provoke people, more than EVER before, to stop posting anything online you wouldn't shout out of your window. I've lived by these standards, and I'm going to sit down and re-evaluate my relationship with my PC, and the internet in the coming days and weeks. I encourage everyone else to do the same. Privacy is paramount.

I thought this might be relevant to this post:

This has just been posted on our TVNZ NEWS (Television New Zealand) website 'New Zealand is part of NSA surveilance' - report

New Zealand appears to be part of and involved in a vast programme to monitor everything people do on the internet, according to documents leaked by former US security contractor Edward Snowden.

Each page carries the line "Top Secret//Comint//Rel to USA, AUS, CAN, GBR, NZL."

This is a reference to the "five eyes" countries, the United States, Australia, Canada, Britain and New Zealand.

In response to the report, Prime Minister John Key said that he was not aware of any such programme.

"Well I don't talk about our capability but I can honestly say I don't think I've ever heard of that particular programme," he said.

also the GCSB (Government Communications Security Bureau) Spy bill has just passed its second reading in parliament here

Just hours before a controversial new spy law passed its second reading in Parliament, Prime Minister John Key claimed that he is aware of people with connections to the Al Qaeda militant group in New Zealand.

"(Prime Minister) John Key is using politics of fear to justify a law change that will give the GCSB, a foreign intelligence gathering agency, extensive powers to spy on New Zealanders," said Green Party Co-leader Dr Russel Norman.

"There is no justification for increasing the power of the GCSB to intrude into the private lives of ordinary New Zealanders"