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reply to post by Wildmanimal
Don't mention it ProfEmeritus, as I was at a loss for words.
reply to post by AceWombat04
Does the reality of a conspiracy's existence make it less of a conspiracy? That it isn't secret anymore doesn't render it something less than people conspiring to whatever end is entailed. That proof for it exists doesn't make it less of a conspiratorial agenda.
Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
I keep saying this again and again,
Before Snowden came out it was common knowledge that "they" were spying on their own citizens. That is what ECHELON was all about, the NSA could not quite legally spy on its own citizens with out a warrant so under the ECHELON agreement they would get GCHQ to spy on Joe the yank and GCHQ would send all the info back to the NSA. It gave them the capability to spy on everyone, including their own citizens.
It just amazes me time and time again that people talk about the revelations about NSA spying.... like they're revelations and they're not. Anyone who has the balls the call themselves a "Conspiracy theorist" should not be talking about Snowden like he is "revealed anything". that big. We have always known that the NSA have had ways of spying on American Citizens, just like we knew before Snowden of the NSA code embedded in window's OS so its not really much of a surprise that others have been in on it as well.
Besides, just because recent revelations (to some) about the NSA have proven that they have indeed been spying on their own citizens only proves one of the millions of conspiracies out there. Unless Snowden has proved all of the other conspiracies out there to be true as well then I dont really see how you can claim ATS is now as site for Conspiracy Fact, rather than Conspiracy theory, just because one (There have been others) of them turned out to be true.
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
I have no problem with new people being skeptical and whatnot, but to see 5 year old members clinging on to mainstream theories and ridiculing the conspiracy theorists annoys me.
reply to post by charlyv
I use information from, and contribute to, ATS discussions because to me, it is a bellweather of the human condition. I know of no other venue where one can truly get a pulse on the issues that concern every one of us as citizens of this Earth. The content here exposes the best and worst of how people are thinking today, with everything in between.