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Satan Ballistic Missile

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posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 09:10 AM
Is the cold war back on?
First it's the US anti missile system to stop a first strike on CONUS, now Russia is developing a new first strike weapon.

Maybe the US should suspend it's financial aide to the former Soviet Union.

There is a Finincial program inplace sponsored by the US to help Russia become a non-communist country and to build a free market economy.

This seems hypocritical to give the Russians money, and then have them build weapons to kill us!!!!

If the Russians have the funds to build new missile systems, they dont need cash from the US

First Launch of Satan Ballistic Missile Scheduled Until Year-End, Russia's Defense Minister

November 9, 2004
RIA Novosti

MOSCOW - The first launch of the Satan ballistic missile directly from the area of its basing has been scheduled until the end of this year, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov told a meeting of government members with the President in the Kremlin.

On his part, Vladimir Putin told the Russian defense minister to use the Russian terminology of Russian ICBMs. "Let them call it Satan in the West," Vladimir Putin said.

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 09:25 AM

Originally posted by SIRR1
Is the cold war back on?

- No, obviously not. Wise up.

Russia's armed forces bear no comparison whatsoever with the USA's.

What is this? The only country allowed a 'defense' is the USA these days!?

Russian is just (thanks to George and his buddies) enjoying a little bit of extra cash thanks to oil having been over $40 barrel for quite some time now.

Given the catastrophically thread-bare state of their armed forces they have spent a little on them and - as this case shows - a little on their tech-base too.

But if you think scary 'Satans' in their hoards are coming to get you you are fooling yourself matey.

This seems hypocritical to give the Russians money, and then have them build weapons to kill us!!!!

- As opposed to your vast array of US weapons which....are for what, exactly? Tickling 'them'!?

A lot of US money going to Russia is either invested for a return or it's there doing things in everybodies' - including your - securing the proper disposal of nuclear materials etc. It's not exactly what you'd call a 'freeby'.

Seeing as Russian military missiles have always been used as their space launchers I wonder if this is connected?

[edit on 10-11-2004 by sminkeypinkey]

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 09:27 AM

Originally posted by SIRR1
This seems hypocritical to give the Russians money, and then have them build weapons to kill us!!!!

About our giving weapons to Arabic nations, or funding towards contra rebels/freedom fighters/terrorists (depending how you look at things), and so on. It's just the way things happen, I guess.

Same thing could be said about the America projects, too. How many black op projects are there that are being funded by groups that do not know of the real implications?

I do, however, like the name of the missile.

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 10:01 AM
Apparantly it's a SS18. They have been around since the mid 1970's.

Big deal.

.....was it the scary name that caused the fuss?

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 10:21 AM

Originally posted by SIRR1
Maybe the US should suspend it's financial aide to the former Soviet Union.


you have this misconception that there are some handouts from the US to Russia. There are not. There have been a few LOANS in the past, which Russia is now gradually paying back, but no aid.

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Aelita

you have this misconception that there are some handouts from the US to Russia. There are not. There have been a few LOANS in the past, which Russia is now gradually paying back, but no aid.

I'm afraid that you've got it all wrong there bud.

The amount of money has recently been cut, and there is no doubt that the US has also been looking after it's own interests with the donations, but nevertheless, the US has been supplying financial aid to Moscow since the fall of the Soviet Union. These are not loans.

Incidentally, Europe also provides aid to Russia.

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Leveller
I'm afraid that you've got it all wrong there bud.

Thanks for the link! I stand corrected. However, the info is almost 10 years old.

I recall most of the money was embezzled, and wish the US never paid a penny in the first place.

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 05:17 PM
Well, GOD and JESUS is on our side.

Who wins?

RODS of GOD...

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 05:17 PM

[edit on 10-11-2004 by Laxpla]

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 06:55 PM
Please exuse my ignorance, but I'm pretty sure that the SS-18 Satan already exists. In fact it currently holds the world record for the most powerful blast. It also has multipule rentery vehicles for hitting multipule targets. It also holds the Russian record for longest ranged missile. I'm not sure how true this is, but I saw this in the Guiness Book of World Records 2001.

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 10:45 PM

R-36M / SS-18 SATAN

The R-36m / SS-18 intercontinental ballistic missile is a large, two-stage, tandem, storable liquid-propellant inertial guided missile developed to replace the SS-9 ICBM. Housed in hard silos, the highly accurate fourth generation SS-18 ICBM is larger than the Peacekeeper, the most modern deployed US ICBM. The SS-18 opened a "window of vulnerability" of Minuteman silos (at 300 psi) by 1975, so that some analysts aregued that few Minuteman could be expected to survive a Soviet attack by 1980. The "window of vulnerability" of U.S. land based strategic missiles opened on schedule, and became one of the major issues in U.S. strategic debates in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

The R-36M (15A14) was a two-stage missile capable of carrying several different warheads. The basic design is similar to the R-36 missile modified to include advanced technologies and more powerful engines. This missile, using dinitrogen tetroxide (N2O4) and heptyl (a UDMH [unsymmetrical dimethyl hydrazine] compound) has a first stage powered by a 460-ton-thrust motor with four combustion chambers, and the second by a single-chamber 77-ton-thrust motor. The first stage uses four closed-cycle single chambered rocket motors. The second stage was equipped with a closed-cycle single chambered sustainer motor and an open-cycle four chambered control motor. The second stage sustainer is built into the fuel tank's toroidal cavity. The flight control of the first stage was conducted through gimbaled sustainers. The sustainers used asymmetrical dimethylhydrazine and nitrogen tetraoxide. The missile was equipped with an autonomous inertial command structure and an onboard digital computer.

The R-36M used a gas-dynamic method for the first and second stages whereby special ports are opened through which the propellant tanks are pressurized. This obviated the need for the use of pressurant gases from tanks and the so-called chemical tanks pressurization (by injecting small amounts of fuel in the oxidizer tank and oxidizer into the fuel tank). The improved design and more effective engines allowed an increase in the total liftoff weight from 183 tons to 209.6 ton and the throw weight from 5.8 tons to 8.8 tons, while maintaining the overall dimensions of its predecessor missile.

The SS-18 was deployed in modified SS-9 silos, and employed a cold-launch technique with the missile being ejected from the silo prior to main engine ignition. The rocket was placed in a transport-launch canister made of fiberglass composites. The container was placed into an adapted R-36 silo. The specially hardened silo was 39 meters deep and had a diameter of 5.9 m. Prior to main engine ignition the missile was ejected from the container with the help of a solid-propellant gas generator located in the lower unit of the transport-launch canister. According to Western estimates, the SS-18 was deployed in a silo with a hardness of at least 4,000 psi (281 kg/sq. cm; 287 bar), and possibly as high as 6,000 psi (422 kg/sq. cm; 430 bar).

The development of the two stage heavy liquid-propellant ICBM R-36M intended to replace the R-36 SS-9 Scarp was accepted on 02 September 1969. The preliminary design was completed in December 1969 by the design bureau was KB Yuzhnoye. The system was designed by the M. K. Yangel OKB Yuzhnoye at Dnepropetrovsk (Ukraine) during 1966-1972, with testing beginning in November 1972. It was deployed in January 1975, and integrated with the weapons arsenal in December 1975.

There are six variants that have been deployed, while others were tested but not deployed:

* SS-18 Mod 1 - R-36M The SS-18 Mod 1 carried a single large reentry vehicle, with a warhead yield of 18 to 25 MT, a distance of about 6,000 nm. In January 1971 pop-up tests, began during which the mortar launch was perfected. The actual flight tests for the single-RV Mod-1 began on 21 February 1973, though some sources suggest that testing began in October 1972. The testing phase of the R-36M with various different types of warheads was finished in October 1975 and on 30 December 1975 deployment began [though some Western sources suggest that an initial operational capability was reached in early 1975]. A total of 56 were deployed by 1977, though all were replaced by Mod 3 or Mod 4 missiles by 1984. These high-yield weapons were assessed in the West as possibly developed to attack American Minuteman ICBM launch control centers.

* SS-18 Mod 2 - R-36M The SS-18 Mod 2 included a post-boost vehicle and up to eight reentry vehicles, each with a warhead yield estimated at between 0.5 to 1.5 MT, with a range capability of about 5,500 nm. The MIRVs were placed in pairs, and a post boost vehicle with a command structure and a propulsion system were contained in the nose cone of the R-36M. The flight tests of the MIRVed Mod-2 began in September 1973 [though some Western sources suggest that the initial flight test of the Mod 2 MIRV version occurred in August 1973], with IOC in 1975. Approximately 132 were deployed by 1978, but the post-boost vehicle design was seriously flawed, and the Mod 2 missiles were all replaced by the Mod 4 variant by 1983.

* SS-18 Mod 2x - R-36M Between July 1978 and August 1980 a MIRVed missile with an improved nose cone was tested but not deployed. The fact of the existence of this system is reported by Russian sources, but not attested by unclassified Western literature.

* SS-18 Mod 3 - R-36UTTh The SS-18 Mod 3 carried a single large reentry vehicle that was an improved version of the SS-18 Mod-1. On 16 August 1976, a few months after the R-36M entered service, the development of an improved modification of the R-36M (15A14) and MR UR-100 (15A15) was approved. This missile subsequently received the designation R-36M UTTh (15A18) and was developed by KB Yuzhnoye (OKB-586) through December 1976. Its increasing accuracy made it possible to reduce the yield of the warheads. The R-36M UTTh was capable of carrying two different nose cones. The version with a divided nose cone [Mod-4] allowed an increase the numbers of warheads from 8 up to 10 and the single-RV version [Mod-3] had a maximum range of up to 16,000 km. The flight-design tests of the R-36M UTTh began on 31 October 1977. On 29 November 1979 deployment of the SS-18 Mod-3 with a single reentry vehicle carrying a warhead with a yield of 24-25 MT began. The P-36MUTTh was introduced into the inventory on 17 December 1979. A total of 24 were deployed in 1977, and all were replaced by the Mod 4 variant by 1984.

* SS-18 Mod 4 - R-36UTTh The SS-18 Mod 4 carries at least 10 MIRVs and was probably designed to attack and destroy ICBMs and other hardened targets in the US. According to some Western estimates, evidence suggested that the Mod 4 may be capable of carrying as many as 14 RVs [this may reflect observation of the deployment of countermeasures intended to overcome a ballistic missile defense, or to confuse American attack characterization systems]. In November 1979 the flight tests of the MIRVed missile were completed. The first three regiments were put on alert on 18 September 1979. During 1980 a total of 120 SS-18 Mod 4 missiles were deployed, replacing the last remaining R-36 missiles. In 1982-1983 the remaining R-36M missiles were also replaced with the new R-36M UTTh and the total number of deployed missiles reached a maximum operational launcher reached 308, ceiling established in the SALT-1 treaty. The SS-18 Mod 4 force had the estimated capability to destroy 65 to 80 percent of US ICBM silos using two nuclear warheads against each. Even after this type of attack, it was estimated that more than 1,000 SS-18 warheads would be available for further strikes against targets in the US. After 1988 the SS-18 Mod 4s were partially replaced by the new R-36M2 "Voivode".

* SS-18 Mod 5 - R-36M2 "Voivode" The newer, more accurate version (the SS-18 Mod 5) placed in converted silos allowed the SS-18 to remain the bulwark of the SRF's hard-target-kill capability. The Mod 5 carries 10 MIRVs, each having a higher yield than the Mod 4 warheads. The Mod-5 warheads have nearly twice the yield of the Mod-4 (approximately 750 kt to 1 megaton) according to Western estimates, though Russian sources suggest a yield of 550-750 Kt each. The increase in the Mod 5's warhead yield, along with improved accuracy, would, under the START treaty, help allow the Russians to maintain their hard-target-kill wartime requirements even with the 50 percent cut in heavy ICBMs the START agreement required. The technical proposals to build a modernized heavy ICBM were made in June 1979. The missile subsequently received the designation R-36M2 "Voivode" and the industrial index number 15A18M. The design of the R-36 M2 "Voivode" was completed in June 1982. The R-36M2 disposed of a series of new engineering features. The engine of the second stage is completely built in the fuel tank (earlier this was only used on SLBMs) and the design of the transport-launching canister was altered. Unlike the R-36M, the 10 warheads on the post-boost vehicle are located on a special frame in two circles. The flight tests of the R-36M2 equipped with 10 MIRVs began in March 1986 and were completed in March 1988. The first regiment with these missiles was put on alert on 30 July 1988 and was deployed on 11 August 1988.

* SS-18 Mod 6 - R-36M2 "Voivode" The flight tests of a the R-36M2 missile (Mod-6) carrying a single warhead with a yield of 20 MT were completed in September 1989 and deployment began in August 1991.

The only deployed versions of the SS-18 are the R-36M UTTh and R-36M2. In 1997 there were 186 deployed launchers for of these missiles in Russia. The dismantling of 104 launchers located in Kazakhstan was completed in September 1996.

The Reagan and Bush administrations respected the SS-18 to such a degree that they made it the main focus of their arms control initiatives. The START II Treaty specifically banned land-based MIRV systems, in part, because of the threat the SS-18 posed to the balance of power. It was seen as a first-strike weapon and a very destabilizing presence in the bilateral relationship.

US negotiators allowed the Russian Federation to retain 90 of the SS-18 silos. After complying with the START II silo conversion protocol, the Russian Rocket Forces will be permitted to replace 90 of the SS-18s with a smaller, single-warhead missile. The protocol requires Russia to place a 2.9-meter restrictive ring near the top of the retained SS-18 silos and to fill the bottom five meters of the silos with concrete. These measures make the silos too small to hold an SS-18.

The Nunn-Lugar program is assisting in the reduction of the SS-18 missile threat to the United States. The Russian Federation must eliminate 100 SS-18s by December 2001 and an additional 154 SS-18s by January 2003. In recent years, Nunn-Lugar has played a role in SS-18 dismantlement. It provided the equipment necessary to help destroy the missiles. A total of 204 of these missiles were deployed on Russian territory and 104 in Kazakhstan. The elimination base at Surovatikha, near Nijny-Novgorod, destroyed 32 missiles in 1993 with the remaining 44 destroyed in 1994.

The SS-18 was manufactured in Ukraine, while Russian enterprises provide maintenance for SS-18s which are currently in inventory. Manufacturing of SS-18s in Russia would be expensive, and could require 5 to 7 years of design work to begin at least tests at a cost of 8-10 billion rubles.

There are currently 186 SS-18 'Satan' Missiles deployed in Russia. Under the SALT treaties theses weapons are required to be dismantled, but under funding has led to international aid doing funding most of the dismantaling.

They have been around for 29 years ( First Deployed in 1975 ) and are the most destructive missile in the world, also holding the record for the worlds most MIRV's. It is equal pherhaps even better, but these giants such as tbe Satan ( and other modifacations/variants ) and Minutemen ( and other modifacations/variants ) won't be around for long due to more and more efforts to remove these beast's from the arsenals of the Superpowers.

posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 12:43 AM
The name 'Satan' of which it has been called since 1978 is a good match, these missiles are the most deadliest weapon on earth, reaching within 250m of there target, accuracy isn't that important when you have as much destructive force as this baby. With 10 MIRV's it is capable of destroying the top 10 most populated cities in the US and thats just one missile.

Out of all the modifications done to this missile Mod 5, which gives the SS-18 10 750 kiloton warheads

Making the SS-18 ' Satan ' a force to be reconed with.

posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 04:03 AM
Kenshin that picture of yours is from Thunderbirds? Its so fake looking

posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 04:33 AM

They real enough my friend, Im positive that the other picture which you claimed to be fake was an actual picture ...

posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 12:32 PM
While the Russians are saying that their missile is the best the Peacekeeper is actually more advanced.

Primary function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Contractor: Basing: Boeing Aerospace and Electronics; assembly and test: Martin Marietta and Denver Aerospace
Power Plant: First three stages, solid-propellant; fourth stage, storable liquid (by Thiokol, Aerojet, Hercules and Rocketdyne)
Length: 71 feet (21.8 meters)
Weight: 195,000 pounds (87,750 kilograms) including re-entry vehicles
Diameter: 7 feet, 8 inches (2.3 meters)
Range: Greater than 6,000 miles (5,217 nautical miles)
Speed: Approximately 15,000 miles per hour at burnout (Mach 20 at sea level)
Guidance system: Inertial; integration by Rockwell, IMU by Northrop and Rockwell
Warheads: 10 Avco MK 21 re-entry vehicles
Circular Error Probable:
Date Deployed: December 1986
Unit Cost: $70 million
Inventory: Active force, 50; ANG, 0; Reserve, 0

As you can the the Peacekeeper can carry 10 MIRVs.

posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 12:51 PM
Note the beautiful plume of N2O4 coming out of the missilse at launch.

Thanks for the pics!

posted on Nov, 13 2004 @ 04:43 PM
Hey Jet what the yeild of each of the war heads on the peace keeper?

posted on Nov, 13 2004 @ 07:53 PM
The un-modified peacekeeper has ten 350 kiloton warheads.

I think there might even be one with 10 500 kiloton warhead ?

posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 01:05 AM
what does the modified one have?

posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:12 AM
my misktake, there was planning to be a modified version of the peacemaker but SALT treaties enabled it to continue. There are 50 peacemakers deployed, capable of carrying 10 MIRV with 350 kiloton yield.

Compared to the SS-18 which has 10 MIRV with a yield of aproximately 750kiloton-1 megaton. making it substantially more powerful than the peacekeeper.

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