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Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by Urantia1111
I hate to be the one to inform you of this, but we have been living in a police state for some time now. I think it started when tasers were developed... not real sure about that though.
edit on 7/30/2013 by TheRedneck because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
reply to post by Xcathdra
YOur post was a starting point for my remarks....so , no I agree you made no mention of random acts.
Many here seem to be wondering what they would do if stopped by fake cops or stopped under suspicious reasons.
Many good recommendations and ideas.
However, I have a real problem with the vigilante justice these cops decided to mete out.
Could we citizens do this? Hell, no...we'd get arrested AND charged.
And, just for the record...isn't OJ Simpson in jail for trying to get HIS stuff back
This is a breach of the public trust....and we don't even get to know their names
A slap in the face of the justice system.
A betrayal of citizens who pay their salaries.
And considering the average pay for this Sergeant....well, hell...we should be outraged.....$87,320 a year!!!!!
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by HanzHenry
Had tasers been implemented under the mentality that they are only to be used where otherwise a bullet would be required, I would today be hailing the taser as one of the greatest law enforcement tools ever created. But no... they became used far far too often as a convenience rather than as a non-lethal alternative to guns. And this increase in power over another citizen, this ability to inflict serious pain and anguish, even death to those poor souls unable to handle the current designed to incapacitate a healthy human being, led to an arrogance we now see developing across the country. In the mind of the average police officer, his condition has gone from "I am the law, and I have the right to detain you if you break the law" to "I am the law and therefore your superior and will do to you as I see fit."
I mentioned earlier that with increased authority comes increased responsibility. That is true, and something I have stated many times on this board since I first joined ATS. It is also something that has been, at various times, denied vehemently, dismissed as impractical, scoffed at, and everything in between. As a society we have failed to learn from history that one simple lesson, and true to form, history will repeat the lesson until we do learn it.
TheRedneck
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by CosmicCitizen
No, I don't remember that one.... but I don't doubt it.
I worked for two years at the local college as a math/physics tutor while I got my AS. This college has a rapidly growing Criminal Justice program, and as some math is required in every degree, I got to meet quite a few of the students in all of the degree fields, including Criminal Justice.
I cannot count how many times I heard a CJ major say "I get to carry a gun" or "I get to shoot people" while I was there. Even more frequent was "I want to ride in a cop car and get paid for it" or "Hey, it's an easier program than anything else and I don't want to spend all my time studying." One CJ major even tried to pay me to finish his math lab work for him... to the tune of a few hundred bucks (for what would have taken me maybe 2 hours). Of course, I wouldn't do it.
The hardest people to teach math to were the CJ majors. They were the ones who either just couldn't get it, or who didn't want to get it. Remember as well, we're talking about remedial math courses that often didn't even count toward a degree, but were required in order to take the math courses that did count. These are courses that should have been taken and passed in high school. Before I left, I was hearing other groups laughing at the CJ majors, as they had, as a group, established themselves as being the least intelligent and least motivated group on campus.
These are our future cops. These are the people who want to uphold our laws and be given the authority to act as the law.
I'm stopping now. This post is scaring a redneck.
TheRedneck
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by smurfy
Actually, unless there has been an update I missed, the cop(s) who did this was released after 48 hours while the DA tried to decide if he was going to be prosecuted or not.
TheRedneck
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by CosmicCitizen
Ho-ly crap.
Are you kidding me???
They were originally thought to be citizens posing as fake cops. Turns out they were REAL cops!?
I wonder how often this happens.
Probably more than we know.edit on 30-7-2013 by gladtobehere because: (no reason given)
This is nothing new nor something only occurring in Detroit, This happens all the time all over the place. It might not be your money it could be for sex if your a woman.
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by CosmicCitizen
It is worse in Detroit than I thought.
The cops are actually robbing people.
So much for 'Law and Order', eh?
Originally posted by HanzHenry
Redcoats and badges are one in the same.
Originally posted by HanzHenry
PERPETUATING and PROFITING from a broken (admittedly corrupt) system takes someone WITHOUT HONOR OR INTEGRITY..
Originally posted by HanzHenry
bogus revenue tickets,
Originally posted by HanzHenry
checkpoints, checkpoints! ...bloody CHECKPOINTS..
Originally posted by HanzHenry
bankster foreclosure evictions to profit the elites,
Originally posted by HanzHenry
FOR PROFIT PRISONS..
Originally posted by HanzHenry
NONE with honor or integrity would participate in ANY OF THAT!! much less ALL OF IT!!
Originally posted by HanzHenry
if the americans who founded this country were alive today... then every cop who participated in unconstitutional checkpoints would be AT THE TOP OF THE LIST to be hung!... rightfully so!