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Secret DARPA Mind Control Project Is Real: Leaked Document - Narrative Disruptors And Inductors

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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 12:08 AM
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"No, no, guys, not a weapon! A shield!"





posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 12:14 AM
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Can you point out where I have expressed any patriotism in this thread?
Can you point out where I have said there is no chance the research could be used for "devious" purposes?

A few people are having a rational discussion here. Why don't you try it? It's good for the brain.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 12:28 AM
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And we'll end the night on an ad-hominem- if you're decompensating badly enough that you resort to that after an appeal to jingoism, I guess we're really onto something good, huh guys?



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 01:00 AM
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Okay, so I was thinking that when you go to threads that are trying to convince others of something rather fantastic, and it seems as though they are the only ones that can see it? And they provide some photo, or youtube video to support their 'argument' for Nibiru, or sasquatch, or what have you?

Myself and others have been trying to stay on top of this whole 5GW/Narrative thing and sometimes things get silly and paranoid, like any other thing where there are a lot of unknowns and recursion. Anyway, we try to find examples of this type of narrative warfare in the media. Here is one that I picked out as possibly being a weaponized meme...



Remember that one?

Anyway, that's the kind of stuff that keeps a person up at night after trying to understand all this stuff.


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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 01:17 AM
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A stupid prank has something to do with propaganda?
www.dailymail.co.uk...
The idiot newscasters didn't even see the joke.
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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 01:21 AM
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Technological Feasibilities:

Bioeffects of Selected Nonlethal Weapons



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 01:23 AM
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As you wish.




posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 01:24 AM
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reply to post by The GUT
 

Not much in there about mind control.
Except that speculative bit about the possibility of projecting "voices". Spoooooky.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by The GUT
 

Not much in there about mind control.
Except that speculative bit about the possibility of projecting "voices". Spoooooky.

Your reading comprehension is generally pretty good it seems, maybe not this time, but, regardless, this is a work in progress and might require a bit more stamina and a mind still open to evidentiary items, k? I'm providing documents, are you?

Certainly, if we are indeed on the trail of mind-control, then we're not going to click a link and get the skinny in the form of the most highly classified documents I readily admit. But we might get a clue. Or maybe I should say you might.


"Spooky" is right on though, just maybe not in the way you mean.


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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 01:37 AM
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I mean that you would have to have line of sight to your "victim" to use the microwave hearing trick (if it would work over any significant distance). I mean that there are better ways to make someone think they're going nuts if that's what your intent is.


I'm providing documents, are you?
No. But then, I'm not making any claims. I'm discussing the information in the OP.

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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
I mean that you would have to have line of sight to your "victim" to use the microwave hearing trick (if it would work over any significant distance). I mean that there are better ways to make someone think they're going nuts if that's what you're intent is.

One thing I'm quite sure you would agree on: Science and Technology advances, no? Think about how much life--technologically speaking--has advanced in the last 20 years.


No. But then, I'm not making any claims. I'm discussing the information in the OP.

Yes you are making claims. Many of them. Alas, they are in the form of opinions separated from any apparent or significant research into the subject matter. Why u no open mind?

Anyhoo: Spooky? Heck yeah.

Army Yanks ‘Voice-To-Skull Devices’ Site


The Army’s very strange webpage on "Voice-to-Skull" weapons has been removed. It was strange it was there, and it’s even stranger it’s gone. If you Google it, you’ll see the entry for "Voice-to-Skull device," but, if you click on the website, the link is dead.

The entry, still available on the Federation of American Scientists‘ website reads:

Nonlethal weapon which includes (1) a neuro-electromagnetic device which uses microwave transmission of sound into the skull of persons or animals by way of pulse-modulated microwave radiation; and (2) a silent sound device which can transmit sound into the skull of person or animals. NOTE: The sound modulation may be voice or audio subliminal messages. One application of V2K is use as an electronic scarecrow to frighten birds in the vicinity of airports.

Yeah, I know "electronic scarecrows" but use your imagination and also ask yourself why the info was yanked. Again note the terminology, "nonlethal weapon."



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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 01:55 AM
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One thing I'm quite sure you would agree on: Science and Technology advances, no?
I assume that is a rethorical question.


Yes you are making claims. Many of them.
Such as? What is it I have said for which you would expect some documentation?


Alas, they are in the form of opinions separated from any apparent or significant research into the subject matter.
The subject matter is the research proposal about the physiological study of the effects of narrative. Yes, I have stated some of my opinions about that proposal.


Why u no open mind?

Why do you keep trying to make the discussion about me?



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Eidolon23
 

Can you point out where I have expressed any patriotism in this thread?
Can you point out where I have said there is no chance the research could be used for "devious" purposes?

A few people are having a rational discussion here. Why don't you try it? It's good for the brain.


and I DEFY you to show us where you have EVER EVER EVER gone against the mainstream, government sanctioned, sponsored, and approved, version of reality.

Just ONE example!

tick tock, lol.


yeah, busted.
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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
Why do you keep trying to make the discussion about me?

I'm not just making the subject about you. I've been providing objective substance.

When I address you, in particular, it's because, 1.) you've been very vociferous here, and opinionated, without much in the way of any apparent personal research, and, 2.) it would be nice to see you use your big brain in an openminded way rather than off-the-cuff guesserology as regards the larger ramifications of this subject.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:21 AM
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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:56 AM
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And another nice one:

With this device, you can control a rat using the power of your mind


...we may not even have the ethical concepts to encompass the possible uses of this technology, which sounds like something out of Ramez Naam's novel Nexus. It also sounds incredibly disturbing. Are we opening the door to new vistas in human cruelty, or new avenues of communication between species? Hopefully our ethical development will outpace the development of this technology.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 03:09 AM
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This thread is awesome. Narrative study vs narratives about narrative study! Its like Jane Goodall getting attacked by chimps.

Seriously though, here's a study: Tell people that you have a way to subtly influence them, and then see how much harder they are to influence. Tying a this "narrative control" business to the war on terror may shut down counter narratives to extremism as being the manifestations of "subtle control" by US mind controllers, thus backfiring. Just sayin'.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 03:36 AM
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But. But. Didn't you just say it's unlikely to work?


I said that a propagandized television advert wouldn't work but that wasn't what I was referring to. Our government has done some very peculiar things in the name of national security, particularly to those of whom they consider to be enemy combatants. Using this research against an enemy combatant or other target wouldn't be so out of joint with what occurs. Look at it this way, in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guatanamo Bay, psychological operations was actually doing some rather peculiar stuff to the prisoners during interrogations such as playing Barney in a steel shipping container for sometimes 18 hours straight along with flashing lights.

kroq.cbslocal.com...
The photo in this one kind of reminds me of Edvard Munch's The Scream: www.vice.com...

Now it may sound silly but blasting music for 24 hours and even the bright flashing lights was somebody's (multiple actually) research at one point in time. Started out with a couple of mice and weird enough, they found that flashing lights at mice induces a short term amnesia. It can be a bit of a brain scrambler: www.sciencedirect.com...

If they'd blast Barney and flash lights at POWs (among other really, really "special" things) that could get the attention of media, how quick do you think they would attempt using something that the worst apparently physiological effect is some temporary scalp irritation to do the same or maybe even more efficiently? Like I said previously, it could be better than what they've done previously. Maybe it's a kindness. And do note that they used those same tactics at Waco.

There's a whole lot that our country does in the name of national security so it really wouldn't be the first time that some curious insight into cognitive function gets abused. That's what I was saying.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:25 AM
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Good morning! I know you were fielding a lot of replies and might have missed it, but I would be delighted to see a reply to this, in re directed MRIs in consumer electronics:


I'm just saying that it is possible, maybe not now, but maybe soon. Also, that you'd only need to equip 1/1000 devices w/ it to get a good sample.

Radiation is obviously not the same as EMF, but you can use radioactive material (even something as simple as a Na/H2O reaction, wouldn't even need the isotopes), and extract and direct the energy. Unfortunately, yeah, you'd have to shield the hell out of it (20 lb, for sure), but they're doing some cool stuff with super-light ceramics.

Or, you could contain that field within another field, generated, say by the output of the laptop's primary functions.

And the sensory apparatus, if you'll pardon my 19th cent. vernacular (we can also call it the pick-up and amplification software), could be developed to compensate for the loss on the magnet. As long as the readings, however faint, were isolated by way of effective shielding, it's sort of possible.

The cheapest components I can come up with are sodium and water, and some kind of clever engineering, but... I can't bring the math to it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Thanks in advance.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:39 AM
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Mind control isn't required to make people follow a politician regardless of what they do .. a friend of mine was a george bush loyalist simply because "he's a christian" .. he defended him to no end, but when I'd ask him about what bush's policies were..? .. he had no clue.. he didn't know his history or what his positions were.. he just wanted a christian in office and truly believed bush was a bible loving republican.. now days he's more about just voting anyone who's republican and leading the pack.. he doesn't care who or what they are, or what they stand for.

That is our society .. republicans vote republican simply for that fact, they rabidly defend their team.. so do the dems in many cases.

That's why I stay independent .. both sides are insane ..


But anyway, this information isn't new .. nor is it "leaked" .. so this post is sensationalism at it's best..



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