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Custodians of the Plan to Kill all Who Won't Evolve

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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 01:21 PM
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So by that "logic" psychotherapy is a cult ?




posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 01:30 PM
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I do not believe i will be hurt if i am shot.

I do not believe the sky is blue.

I do not believe water is wet.

I do not believe these things as i know them to be fact . That has nothing to do with a belief system , just observation and a logical thought process.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by AthiestJesus
I do not believe i will be hurt if i am shot.

I do not believe the sky is blue.

I do not believe water is wet.

I do not believe these things as i know them to be fact . That has nothing to do with a belief system , just observation and a logical thought process.


so how are you observing there isn't other dimensions and beings from other dimensions? as an example.
just curious where you draw the line, cause everyone draws it at a different spot



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:15 PM
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reply to post by undo
 


There is no evidence of other dimensions , no evidence of beings from other dimensions either .



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by AthiestJesus
I do not believe i will be hurt if i am shot.

I do not believe the sky is blue.

I do not believe water is wet.

I do not believe these things as i know them to be fact . That has nothing to do with a belief system , just observation and a logical thought process.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

YOUR

observation and a logical thought process

is NOT belief

but ours and everyone else's is?

Clever mental gymnastics, that.

Evidently you fantasize that other people's BELIEF'S

just fall out of the sky and hit them on the head from a sky hook

but

YOURS!

don't!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Perhaps it's harsh to break it to you but I will anyway . . . we all have to grow up sometime in this or that understanding . . .

It's virtually certain that

1. No linguist
2. No psychologist
3. No sociologist
4. No cultural anthropologist
5. No psycholinguist
6. No English professor
7. No psychiatrist

would buy your nonsense that you have no beliefs.

Neither would the Supreme Court.

But, hey, enjoy your DAFFYNITIONARY.

It does provide some amusement here and there.

Trouble is such nonsense has consequences as the OP articulates.

That kind of nonsense coupled with IN-GROUP/OUT-GROUP emotionality and choices results in OUT-GROUPS being genocidally exterminated.

We've already seen the kind of emotionality that goes with such ostracizing . . . Hitler escalated it very calculatedly just like the globalists are doing now.

And YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM

is extremely congruent with and already in the direction of the globalists' desired ostracizing to extermination the Christians on the planet.

You have made it clear that it's not just a matter of

YOUR BELIEFS being DIFFERENT

from Christian's BELIEFS.

You've made it clear that, TO YOU,

Christian's BELIEFS are idiotic, stupid, brain dead, insane, dangerous, destructive yada yada yada. . . .

And therefore and thereby Christians ought to be marginalized . . . and then eradicated.

THAT'S Just the sort of accusations Hitler began to use about the Jews in prepping the populace for their eventual extermination.

I confess, it is still shocking to see anyone as bright as you are denying so tenaciously that they have BELIEFS.

Incredible.

BTW, There's a HUGE difference in tweaking someone's beliefs, opinions, assertions

vs

attacking their character and personhood.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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I'd have thought you were better read in quantum physics and related research about other dimensions.

I gather you have no explanation for where UFO craft visible on RADAR for many long minutes or even an hour or so . . . you have no explanation for where such craft go in broad daylight and on RADAR

when they just WINK OUT . . . disappear from visible sight

and . . . a bit later or at the same time, from the radar.

Where do such craft go?

Another dimension explains it sufficiently.

And, is congruent with a great deal of physics and related research.

For a super rationalist/objectivist, it would appear that you could stand to catch up on your reading. Saying things like you did about no other dimensions could end up making your RELIGION look bad.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by undo

so how are you observing there isn't other dimensions and beings from other dimensions? as an example.
just curious where you draw the line, cause everyone draws it at a different spot


Now now . . . WE KNOW

that beliefs are beliefs are beliefs.

But some gods of the daffynitionary are able to declare some beliefs are non-beliefs by fiat.

It's difficult to imagine the extent of the mental gymnastics to pull that off day after day and face one's self in the mirror but evidently some folks vainly attempt it day after day.

It's that kind of . . . obtuseness . . . that is such a short trip to the kind of hostile genocidal efforts of a Hitler and his supporters . . . quite in line with the OP's assertions.
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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:28 PM
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Hitler ... it was stalin earlier ..... what will you compare your mental image of an athiest to next ?

(he was religious BTW)

If you think that knowledge and beliefs are the same thing you need to do a little more reading .

Attacking me - claiming im attacking you - and brown nosing the mods will get you nowhere here , i am not an irrational child like yourself so you will not see me buckle infront of a wall of ignorant text.
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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:29 PM
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Actually, a logical case could be made that psychotherapy is a cult.

Thomas Zsasz comes to mind.

www.psychotherapy.net...

And psychotherapy has been used in Russia and somewhat in the USA to imprison enemies of the State.

Sometimes, in keeping with the mentality you espouse--Christians have been imprisoned for their BELIEFS by psychiatrist stooges of the State.

Quite in keeping with the assertions of the OP.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by AthiestJesus
 


Actually, a logical case could be made that psychotherapy is a cult.

Thomas Zsasz comes to mind.

www.psychotherapy.net...

And psychotherapy has been used in Russia and somewhat in the USA to imprison enemies of the State.

Sometimes, in keeping with the mentality you espouse--Christians have been imprisoned for their BELIEFS by psychiatrist stooges of the State.

Quite in keeping with the assertions of the OP.


Oh man you just ....... pfft ...... you people can never be wrong huh ?

obvious troll is obvious



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:43 PM
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Star for using the term "grok"



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by AthiestJesus
reply to post by BO XIAN
 


Hitler ... it was stalin earlier ..... what will you compare your mental image of an athiest to next ?


Pol Pot comes to mind. Mao . . . Ortega, Castro, . . .

You seem to imply that my 'mental image' of an atheist has

no congruence in objective reality!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.



(he was religious BTW)


Yeah . . . and it was his religious BELIEFS that trashed millions of souls.



If you think that knowledge and beliefs are the same thing you need to do a little more reading .


Where did I say that knowledge was identical to beliefs? Show me the quote.

It would be an interesting mental gymnastic to observe, however, to try and see someone pretend or articulate that they could arrive at a 'bit of knowledge' without ANY BELIEFS or believing WHATSOEVER.

BTW, nice dodge . . . I'm not surprised that you consider yourself a far greater expert on beliefs than the professionals I mentioned.



Attacking me


I have not assaulted your character nor your personhood.

I have tweaked you about your opinions, about your beliefs, about your inconsistencies and illogical blather.



- claiming im attacking you


Now you're denying the text you wrote repeatedly, including in this post? Interesting.



- and brown nosing the mods will get you nowhere here


I have NO IDEA what fantasies you're pulling THAT from! LOLOL.



, i am not an irrational child like yourself


More attack on my mentality, personhood and character. Impressive.



so you will not see me buckle infront of a wall of ignorant text.


Oh? I didn't realize it was a contest about who has stronger biceps.

I thought it was about at least a pretense at intellectual dialogue about perspectives on the genocidal mentality ostracizing Christians to the point of exterminating them.

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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 03:04 PM
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You claim that knowing something will hurt is the same as believing it . I do not need to quote you , you wrote it so you should know . Or believe in your case


If i drop my keys i know they will make a sound - i dont have to believe it for it to happen .

Comparing me to warmongerers shows how controlled you really are. You seem to have the impression that athiests share the same opinions and believe in something , working together to dominate the planet like a religion. you could not be further from the truth.

Your argument is beyond pathetic.
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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 03:09 PM
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I'm fairly sure that the line between belief and knowing differs with each person and often enough each issue . . .

but in terms of pain . . .

You are treating as an absolute certainty that if XYZ (gun, knife, fall, scalpel, arrow . . . whatever) occurs, is used . . . that 100% of the time pain will result.

That's not true with leprosy.

SOMETIMES, it's evidently not true with ET activities.

And, it can be untrue with certain types of hypnosis with some individuals in some situations. Some have even undergone major tooth extraction or surgery under hypnosis--not registering the pain.

So your KNOWING in such situations or matters could easily turn out to have been

a WRONG BELIEF.

However, when Christians BELIEVE that a world cabal of globalists is engineering genocidal efforts against them, it is a reasonable BELIEF because the folks with the power, money and means have DECLARED that's what they WILL DO.
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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by AthiestJesus
 


I'm fairly sure that the line between belief and knowing differs with each person and often enough each issue . . .

but in terms of pain . . .

You are treating as an absolute certainty that if XYZ (gun, knife, fall, scalpel, arrow . . . whatever) occurs, is used . . . that 100% of the time pain will result.

That's not true with leprosy.

SOMETIMES, it's evidently not true with ET activities.

And, it can be untrue with certain types of hypnosis with some individuals in some situations. Some have even undergone major tooth extraction or surgery under hypnosis--not registering the pain.

So your KNOWING in such situations or matters could easily turn out to have been

a WRONG BELIEF.

However, when Christians BELIEVE that a world cabal of globalists is engineering genocidal efforts against them, it is a reasonable BELIEF because the folks with the power, money and means have DECLARED that's what they WILL DO.
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Dude .... the christians have the money wealth and power .... power they got from dominating the globe by force ..... what are you babbling about ?

As for belief and knowledge ..... read a dictionary ... it doesnt depend on the individual - its the English language and its worth learning.

BTW .... leprosy ? ..... how much are the tickets to the troll's stretching event ?
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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 04:07 PM
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Thou Shalt Not Kill ----- ring any bells? .


It's actually "You shall not murder" in Hebrew, and Christians are not under the law.
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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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Dude .... the christians have the money wealth and power .... power they got from dominating the globe by force ..... what are you babbling about ?


We have what? You must be joking, because I haven't seen a dime of any of that so called wealth. I'm barely scraping by as it is.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 05:17 PM
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AthiestJesus
Sanitys Savior

It is interesting how much can be revealed by these very few words selected--with an obvious and deliberate spirit of offence that you carry within (legion inspired) in aim for delivery toward the Christian faithful which just screams of the rebellion rooted mind....and I am compelled to deliver this link in direction of where the majority will be Handed over for their Rejection of Covenant Truth along with the Foundations of good will in heart that strives to recognise and keep the Commandments of our Creator that coincide with the teachings of His Son.
The reprobate mind
www.learnthebible.org...

The ironic thing is that the very thing that the atheist mind for the most part reject (the Spiritual validity of the Bible, which in large way is based around Prophecy already well fulfilled), is the very thing that outlines this ages unfaithful, unholy direction as the Prophecy still continues to unfold in all it's Glory for the already faithful in Christ to have it increased moreso.
Bible Prophecy fulfilled
www.reasons.org...

The Word Exclaims there will be a Great Divide (sifting) between those who are drawn closer to the ways of the world (corrupt beast system) and those (many fewer) who will be Aligned closer with the Holy Spirit of Grace---and I see and feel such a divide more and more clearly in the unravelling of people's true hearts motives and desires in this 'modern' age.

Therefore thank you by your expressions of consciousness, showing me as living example that my recognised King's Word is True. You have engaged your will thus far to determine your path in His Prophecy, along with other posters like Druscilla, who openly exclaim sentiment that she would be "ticked happy" if all us Christians would disappear or fall off a cliff. Once again, a statement very far from the Good Spirit in contention with the will of the enemy she does not perceive working upon her. And an enemy unrecognised is an enemy one cannot ever defend against in Truth.

In turn the irony will show in all it's Glory also that those pointing the finger at the faithful's 'sanity' will be the ones moreso turned over to the reprobate mind, with the madness and destruction that follows their choices to a wicked segregation, (unless there is repentance) when the the hordes of legion spirits already afflicting mankind are furthermore unleashed upon their consciousness for unholy leaning.

Watch the media for more accounts of 'regular' people acting out even more 'insanely' than the norm. Those paying closer attention are noticing the trends of society's grosser downfall for our heavily mounting sins. Often unseen demonic (negative spiritual entity) doors/portals are opening moreso as part of the Wrath for a sin loving world. Our Father is not 'all love' as I have come to discover over time. The Kingdom powers are HARD CORE serious about unrepentant wickedness in man.

Your 'time' (illusion) is running out...and the hour is late to Ignore the Callings upon you as you turn your eyes and ears away to the Truth that has already knocked on your hearts.

A reprobate mind: an overcoming by the forces that will be engaged to unleash a greater hell upon this earthly dominion, and especially on the faithful in the Body of Christ as Testified for Warning---and the enemy knows that Christ's return is the Means of their destruction and will sow heavily upon such steadfast faithful with the short time they have left.

Call this all a madness if you will....it will be done and my Father that you reject has shown me things that would have you on your knees in a second if you could comprehend what is coming to this earth.

I pray he Shows you a clearer picture too to awaken you and other 'atheistic' rigid minds from your slumbers.

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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 06:03 PM
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and Christians are not under the law.

Hi Lonewolf

The Law is not done away with, some aspects yes, by example of Yehushua our Christ being the final Blood Atonement for humanity no longer calling for the shedding of animal blood as payment for sin. Others not so.

Like many faithful developing in understanding moreso the aspects of spiritual accountability, I was moreso reluctant to want to fully recognise such as it entails an embarking toward greater responsibility in practice and behaviour--however the Holy Spirit at this stage of my walk is calling me further into determining what should be followed moreso for Alignment (and Favour for increased Graces bestowed to Shield from evils) and what is to be deemed irrelevant as part of the New Covenant through the Sacrifice of Christ.

The fact the 'old' Testament is even referred to as such is part of the conspiracy by the corrupted worldly authorities to deceive mankind that such Law is now irrelevant. Not so and our Father keeps answering my prayers in Leading me to such conclusions in my Bible studies time and time again.
To be discerned with the aid of the Holy Spirit--what applies still today, what does not? Seek by will and pray about it for the Holy Spirit to Guide your direction.
www.jewfaq.org...
613 Mitzvot (Commandments)

Interesting I came to this scripture whilst looking for another and 'coincidentally' also being in line with the 'financial' comment you recently alluded to also
as it serves dual purpose in mentioning the Mitzvot that Christ also promoted whilst teaching about the true 'riches' we should all be seeking.

Luke 18:18
18 One of the leaders asked him, "Good rabbi, what should I do to obtain eternal life?" 19 Yeshua said to him, "Why are you calling me good? No one is good but God! 20 You know the mitzvot -- `Don't commit adultery, don't murder, don't steal, don't give false testimony, honor your father and mother, . . .'" 21 He replied, "I have kept all these since I was a boy." 22 On hearing this Yeshua said to him, "There is one thing you still lack. Sell whatever you have, distribute the proceeds to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven. Then come, follow me!" 23 But when the man heard this, he became very sad, because he was very rich. 24 Yeshua looked at him and said, "How hard it is for people with wealth to enter the Kingdom of God! 25 It's easier for a camel to pass through a needle's eye than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God!"

Those who strive to follow the Law (in a Love for the Creator to instill obedience to the soul alike weakened by the corruptible flesh) will be redeemed by Grace. It does not need to be designed one Way or the other. Different branches of the same Tree comes to mind.

It may not appear so at first, however I consider this all to be on topic as it is through such ongoing gross violations of the Law (increasing the effect of Godlessness and immorality) that has seen the decline of man through the ages culminating in such a great Satanic consciousness effect now moreso leading toward the mass wickedness to peak for the ultimate fall of souls at Judgement....the very thing the OP alludes to and that Messianic Prophecy Warns of.

Great persecutions arising for the fall of man into sinfulness so evil it would be deemed 'good' to the minds of those masses overcome by false contention....and all in the name of 'evolution' during this final iron age, the most corrupt and Godless of all.

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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 06:34 PM
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only part that peeves me is where i can be condemned inperpetuity for something some else did. and when you hear the thing that someone else did, you also hear that they were not being a very good christian obviously, and they just wish christians would follow what jesus actually says if they're going to be christians.

but here's the problem. everyone on this forum who considers him or herself a christian could be a veritable saint, and would still have to be the scapegoat of history. like we have "kick me" signs on our shirts, a'la george mcfly. and frankly, it got old (from my perspective) 40 years ago.
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