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Originally posted by randyvs
You assume to much. I have never belonged to a church or any affiliation I really
don't like religion. But I love Jesus Christ. Can't help it I do. He's my hero.
Originally posted by undo
here you go.
Originally posted by undo
if you watched the video, and recall the question he asked "who gets to ignore the rules?" and his response to his own question, "it will always be those in power"
i would just like to know, when i was put in power so i could be held accountable for the actions of rulers who had the same exact beliefs as mine. This should be good.
Originally posted by undo
and that wasn't the point. the point i made was addressing your request that we rein in our fellow christians. now i dunno about you, but last time i looked there were as many different kinds of christians as there are different kinds of atheists, so that's an order that can't be fulfilled.
secondly, you do not want there to be an universal church upon which others can make demands, because that will eat us all alive. last time we had one coordinated religion, inflicted by force of arms, it was hell on earth. shudder. you don't want to wish that on anybody, even those you disagree with otherwise.
Originally posted by faust833
I tried going to church once, a long time ago.
I was going through some rough times so decided to go with my best friend, who I actually couldn't stand at the time. I grew up with this guy, met him at school when I was about 10. Eventually he turned christian and stopped hanging out with me and became very arrogant and judgemental.
I was about 20 at the time this happened, my hair was long and both of my ears were pierced (I was, still am a fan of Marilyn Manson) Anyway, I decided to go with him and after church service was over he introduced me to the preacher. We talked for a second then all of a sudden he asked me why my ears were pierced, and then he had the audacity to ask me if I was "Queer" and everyone started laughing.
So I answered him kindly, although looking back at it now I wish I would have answered him with a kind punch to the mouth. After this he started questioning my hair, at which point I was ready to get the hell out of there. He started insinuating that it was wrong for me to be wearing my hair the way it was by quoting some moronic bible verse.
Finally, I guess he couldn't hold back his very mature thoughts. He broke down and told me that only Jesus could have long hair and it is a sin for me to emulate Christ. I started running, by the time this whacko was done I would have been bald from pulling all my hair out.
Beware of these people, they're not good, but evil. Especially southern baptists. 75% of these people are snobby hypocrites. Some of the worst kinds of sexual perverts come out of this church, these sadistical individuals become christians so they can justify their sick minds in some weird twisted way.
The TBN types are the worst, like Cre-Flo Dollar and that lady that looks like a scary version of barbie doll. Beware.
Thank God christianity is dying.
P.S. To the christians: Please don't try to justify what that retarded preacher said to me. I know there are 2 definitions of Queer, I don't care. This was 13 years ago.
Originally posted by WhoKnows100
You stated it - the preacher asked you why you did what you do. There is your answer. Someone came along and told you to by simply upholding all of those things as cool. Can you not see how the herd is rushing headlong into oblivion, nearly all thinking that they are doing "good"? And it's "good" as defined by self-professed destroyers?
Originally posted by freedom7
This topic has haunted me for years now, I mean literally haunted me! ..., it has to be the most perplexing thing I have ever come across. On one hand I too used to fall for all the new age deception, and had bought into all of it's creed's so deeply, that I was blinded to the agenda behind essentially the entire machine. ...
I came to realize that people like Alice Bailey, Aleister Crowley, Helena Blavatsky, Benjamin Crème, Barbara Marx Hubbard, even the director behind Zeitgeist! Were all advocating a very satanic creed, based on complete deception. It was unreal, once I starting seeing the patterns emerged, they all had slightly different versions of who the "God" of the bible was, all had slightly different utopian visions for the new age, but the one thing they had in common is they truly hated everything to do with Christianity, and actually looked at it as a plague on people. I found it very suspicious, that they had no problem accepting other forms of other spiritual movements and philosophies but all of them would become seriously offended by Christianity.
The plot got even stranger, once I started connecting the dots between Aleister Crowley's famous quote, "Do what thou wilt" and the new age explosion with the release of the book "the secret" that essentially says you are your own God, you create your own reality, you can do whatever you want essentially.
Now while I believe in free will, there's a fine line and a serious danger in believing you are your own God who is liable to nobody and nothing for your actions. And If we really were all our own God's , how come we are so limited within this 5 sense reality? How come we cant cure cancer overnight? Or prevent a war from breaking out?
the scariest part of all though, is biblical prophecy and how it's predicted that a lot of this would happen. It talks about how in the end times there will be "false prophets who claim to be the messiah" It talks about how they're will be rising tensions between nations. And how the Anti-Christ will come and deceive most of the world, claiming to be the messiah who can cure all the world's woes.
Now If you look at the New age movement, there is an eery parallel with Hitler's idea for an "Aryan Race" . Both have had messiah type figures ( Guru's, Hitler) who were so manipulative and spoke with such charisma, they have been able to put people into almost hypnotic trance like states where they cease to be free, independent thinkers and instead are blinded by the massive amounts of energy and deception being heaved their way.
The Nazi's were ruthless are we all know, and their horror show was not just limited to the Jews, they eliminated homosexuals, many of those with disabilities, essentially anyone they didn't deem fit for their standards of what a perfect race should look like.
Now the new age movement, may look harmless and seemingly be all about personal enlightenment but when you really think about it, for the most part it's aim is for you to "become enlightened", "shine" "connect with the inner you", "manifest your own reality" etc.. the problem is , it is all exclusively a focus on, "ME" Whereas true spirituality incorporates healing on oneself but never once loses sight of grace, compassion and a realization we are all a part of divine creation, and are perfect just the way we are. We don't need to look a certain way, act a certain way, conform to a certain style, project ourselves in a certain way. So many people become so driven by this need for perfection, so obsessed with finding enlightenment and getting in touch with a spiritual center, that they forget that God already loves them just they way he has created them.
It's dangerous because In the end times, the bible says the world will be forced to take the "mark of the beast" ( what exactly this means, is widely open for speculation) But If you look around at all the FEMA camps being built in America, If you've been focusing on the heightened race wars being invoked by the media, the rising tensions between the Arab World and the United States and Israel. One would get the sense that something explosive could happen, and that would set the grounds for the anti-Christ to return and promise peace for the people.
The same way the New age is promising peace. The only problem is though, this peace is a deception, and there will more than likely be massive genocide of those who are scapegoated. Now just because I believe in the bible, I am not naïve, nor do I carry a "holier than though" attitude to me. To be brutally honest, I'm passionately seeker, and many nights I even question whether the bible has been tampered with, or whether the Zionists have orchestrated things within there. It won't surprise me if Muslim, Christians, Jews, and Atheist
Originally posted by freedom7
Simply because they will be scapegoated, and those who are following this "messiah" type figure who is attempting to lead a one world government who will have deceived a stunning majority into a state of hysteria will have no problem carrying out orders to eliminate certain races, religions because they will be so blinded as to believe that they were "terrorists, threats" etc.. some may due it out of complete fear for their lives and the lives of their family.
If you think that is far fetched, just ask yourself this. Do you really think all of those who lost family members, friends, and their fellow Americans on September 11th in the world trade centers and pentagon were rational and in a right state of mind when the news constantly bombarded them of images of the "supposed" Terrorists who commited those atrocities?
When you are experiencing a complete nightmare, it is human nature to be in shock, eventually that shock will give way to intense anger/bitterness or intense sadness. And before all of this 9/11 corruption became exposed, many of us never could fathom the mainstream media could be owned and completely controlled like puppets to usher out brainwashing hate filled messages to deliberately target a race to start brewing tensions.
People who found themselves just "much more" irritable, and potentially hostile in line at the movies when they saw 2 men with a turban conversing in front of them, would truly realize if they were honest with themselves, it's because subconsciously they were carrying a lot of resentment, uncertainty, paranoia, potentially even rage because they were being conditioned to hate all who adhered to Islam, even though in their rational minds, in their conscious they knew it was wrong, they were blinded by lie after lie after lie.
Similar things happened when Hitler scapegoated the Jews, so many just went along with it, because Hitler spoke with such conviction, confidence and had a knack for erupting massive emotions of of vulnerable people, who were easy preys for cleverly crafted lies.
This is what is happening with the new age movement. It is praying upon people left, right and center. Now I am no saints, And like I've said earlier, even though I'm exploring the bible and Christianity pretty deeply. I am still taking everything with a grain of salt, because it seems almost as if everything has become compromised/altered in this day we live in. It is growing increasingly more difficult to trust any religious movement, sadly enough because most have impure motives behind them.
The Illuminati no doubt, has it's hand in mega church movements, among countless amounts of other religious movements. It seems like we're getting to a point where all we have left is eachother, and a connection to something very powerful and loving in this universe, that for some strange reason has remained very quiet amidst the chaos we see current day ( maybe this is for a reason- to allow human beings to bond with eachother, and faithfully, patiently await, and fight for freedom in hopes of a better day for mankind