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Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by MuzzleBreak
People who die in the ER aren't completely and totally evicerated.
Wherein every single bit of muscle tissue is removed from the body. Every single bit of fat is gone.
EVERYTHING is GONE.
Including the blood.
I take it you are a doctor.
That is awesome, but here is a little known trade secret... Veterenarians are better. And in firemoons example, you brush aside vet testimony.
Originally posted by badgerprints
There is a theory that cows are used to incubate alien/hybrid fetuses for some period of the gestation.
The cows are marked with a fluorescent substance that is not visible to the human eye.
The cow is spotted by satellite and the black helicopters are picking up the cow before the aliens come back to get it to harvest the fetuses..
The mutilation is a systematic removal of all internal organs and parts of the animal that are typically implanted.
The mutilation may be a snatch before harvest by humans or an actual harvest by aliens with a visit by the black helicopters who got there late.
Anyhow.
That's one of the rumors floating around.
My thoughts: They are creating a vaccine for their future exposure to humans, and they need to test its effects on a biologically similar animal that is in close proximity to humans aka farmers over a long term time span.
You thus find out if your chemicals are causing human sickness via low level exposure ie herding cattle. Frankly its creepy as heck, but it has to be looked at seriously. My further thoughts on governments complicity in these tests? my honest opinion on the UK is 'don't even risk picking up the phone'. The UK Gov. for sure are 'in on it' or hiding it to stop a lot of panic.
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Another thought of 'why not do it off planet' argument. Who says they are even 'hiding' in 'our' reality. Who says they are even operating on 'our' timescale?
What if 'they' are sat in a 'place' where six or seven weeks has passed away for the years this madness has been going on? They would appear to us as doing this over too large a time frame to be anything of use, ignoring the possibility that actually, they are hard at work, gathering field samples, popping back out, assessing their findings then popping back.
Decades of earth time for a few weeks or months in 'their' time, with the ultimate goal a vaccine or genetic tampering which switches off their deadly allergy to humans and thus negates the need to hide and avoid us at all costs.
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A few points i'd like to mull over with you and all in the thread - the areas of the surgical incisions. A vast majority are the cheek and tongue area, and the reproductive organs / rectum and eyes. This disturbs me greatly, because it sits really well with my vaccine theory, but maybe I have it back to front, maybe its a vaccine for US to prevent their allergies. In other words, are they running tests on cattle to make sure they are not going to A) stop or vastly reduce us breeding, (reproductive organs) B) stop us ingesting food stuff (tongue and cheek baffles) ## The baffles removed could also be a check to see if toxin build up occurs, or the vaccine causes tumours, or simply simply does the absorbtion rate decrease over long term exposure C) make sure exposure to their craft and energies aren't going to blind us (eyes removed to check for retinal / corneal damage or tumour growth.
In short, are they making a vaccine WE will have to take so THEY don't get sick?? do I have it back to front? and is this the reason that over 10,000 cattles have been subjected to this horrific experimentation since it first erupted in 1967 (USA first report of cattle mutilation was 1967 IIRC).
46 years or there abouts, so if I was a scientist on an alien vessel, i'd want to make that a good field test, so i'd say run this over 5 of 'my' years to be absolutely sure I was 100% ( or near as dammit ) close to absolute protection from this disease riddled creature who I cannot go near unless in a totally sterile field and they are immobilised and im wearing full facial and body protective gear.
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1) I stand by my vaccine theory, either for them or us, but either way they are testing long term (earth years) exposure to said vaccine.
2) Take up shop. I totally agree. This is a preparation / incubation period before they make a move for contact.
3) I've been reading on this all day - and whats struck me is that neither east nor west coast USA has a rash of mutilations, its primarily a swathe right down the middle of the nation where these occur in the USA.
4) Lightning. Laughable. I've looked at thousands of images today, and all are eerily similar. That's not possible unless deliberate.
5) Day the earth stood still. That's not even a funny thought.
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I saw the human mutilation victim photos. What scared me was the identical nature of the poor mans injuries. Eye, cheek baffle, and those disgusting 'cookie cutter' under arm and chest wounds. That man went through hell.
If this abductee scenario is even 1% true, then over 30,000 people have been through this hellish nightmare and returned.
Returned why? and here is where I get a little freaked out. I propose that these people have a small amount of a 'serum' (vaccine / test pathogen / altered DNA to produce a by product) in their system, and are 'live test subjects'. The implants they keep finding are biological monitoring stations to keep transmitting real time data to a download hub for the aliens to hoover up on their return and thus update their experiments.
This to me would cover why generational abductions happen. Living breathing biological petri dishes.
So, are a small slice of the 'missing persons mystery' actually the ones with no families and get taken never to return? I propose that they are and I propose the governments know this and are covering it all up as best as they can.
Surely though the Governments are powerless to do anything. How do you counter a vaccine? By introducing even more illness?
You'll just end up doing the aliens' job for them.
Originally posted by Astr0
Surely though the Governments are powerless to do anything. How do you counter a vaccine? By introducing even more illness?
You'll just end up doing the aliens' job for them.
No, by introducing your own genetic alteration programme. Just ever so slightly but enough to throw a big enough spanner in the works to nullify a large part of the effort long enough to develop a method to halt these stateless parasites.
Originally posted by MuzzleBreak
"Dammit Ralph, the aliens beat us to the carcase, again. Totally disembowelled, inside out, and the hide is even totally gone. Nothing left! Those B**Clipped**$!! "
Originally posted by RangerMel
reply to post by wemadetheworld
"Furthermore why would predators eat only the jaw-bone and the rear-end, and leave the nutritious underbelly untouched? Surely it would be quicker and easier for a small scavenger like a fox to bite through the underbelly and eat the best parts, rather than hacking away at the jaw bone?"
Ravens and crows are carcass scavengers that lack the toolkit of other predators. They will definitely go for soft tissue and openings like the eyes, anus, and mouth. I have come across bison and elk carcasses that bear similar tissue removal.