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reply to post by NickDC202
NickDC202 - I hope it doesn't feel like I'm trying to shoot you down...anymore than I've tried to shoot down any and every theory posed...
In all honesty - your theory (scenario) is more plausible than any I've seen or considered (including my own).
Again - though - I'm just admitting that I know...I have a 'tilt'.
We all do...but, my tilt is from experience that correlates (as does yours and others') from another side of the equation.
Revealing personal experience/s on a public forum can have all kinds of ramifications - so - as a rule, the whole "anonymity principle" makes conversation easier.
I could try to sound and seem like a saintly Pope with a shiny halo - and...might even carry it off.
But - truth of the matter is - I'm maybe more human (fallible & frail) than everyone-else...
I have been on the side of the equation where "family" attempted an intervention.
They believed/suspected that "drug use" (and even hard drug use) was the cause of my behavioral changes (not to mention that I'd lost 60 pounds in three and a half months).
I, simply (or, not so simply - whichever the case may actually be) entered-in and succumbed to a mental/psychological crisis.
Won't go into much detail - but will say that it took a good three months to get to the point where 'family' attempted an intervention.
I was a professional ( ) when it began...
The ability to perform my work, however, began to deteriorate at an accelerated pace, once it began -- and it still took 3 months before I resigned.
After I resigned...I walked around the city like a robot/zombie for almost a month...
Smoked cigarette stubs from public ashtrays for almost a month...
Picked up trash from the sidewalks and public areas...for almost a month...
... ... ...and so much more... ... ...
The night I was "escorted" (with hands cuffed behind my back in the back-seat of a police cruiser) to the hospital for evaluation... after being released ...I walked in the sleeting cold 4 miles, until I found some tall cattails...and lay beneath them for a while, before finding a stairwell that would shelter me from some of the wind and precipitation for a couple of hours...until a clanging flagpole drew me up to walking again... I walked another eight or nine miles before returning home...well after daybreak.
At No Point !-!-! was I unaware-of or oblivious-to the fact that 'what I was doing and thinking and believing' was at odds with normalcy.
I knew what normal thought.
...knew what normal was...
I could hold the two (or more) interpretations of reality side by side, with objectivity...and still accept/believe that the "delusional" perspective was "real".
Yet - - - - - my IQ is considered very high.
(those with higher IQs, I'm sure, will disagree!!! ).
My profession is "legal", and, for the last 5-or-so years, I've been consistently esteemed "the best" (or - one of the best) by most everyone...
All of that --- ALL OF IT ...was offered to bolster one point...
Michael Hastings' demeanor and professional performance & conduct - IMO - were not indicative of someone sinking into the abyss.
Unless he was SOOOOOO much smarter and more capable than me... It would have been (again IMO) impossible to keep his public persona intact until just a few days before his brother's verdict.
I had a friend, years ago - BRILLIANT - CHARISMATIC - - - possessed all the social qualities & skills I lack...
He had been in the CIA. He...loved...crystal meth...
If Michael's skill and psychological/mental fortitude/aptitude was 'on par' with his...then...I would have to give your proposition a lot more heed/consideration.
And Thus - as you say - if Michael Hastings had a deeper problem with 'meth' than the physical evidence (as well as those close to him) suggests - the scenario/theory you posited, might be the best I've seen.
SO - THANKS for the titillation. Maybe Time will give us some more information & answers...and we'll be able to see if your inclinations were on target.edit on 11/21/2013 by WanDash because: said too much
…I've never perceived you to be shooting down anything I've posted-- when I initially shared the downward spiral hypothesis I wrote that after catching up on your analysis I too questioned my hypothesis but decided to share it anyway because I correctly anticipated that the resulting discussion would result in clarity in unrelated aspects of this situation.
…To be honest I'm not well versed in the physiological changes that might occur when one is charred beyond recognition (on the outside and inside of the body) but I'd imagine that it must impact the analysis in an autopsy but I could be completely wrong.
…I'm still quite curious as to why MH's wife didn't seem to be in the loop about this pseudo intervention. Did she even fly out to California after the death or did she connect with the body in whatever State they held the wake and funeral?
…The disconnect I perceive between MH and his wife, if true, would be further support to the hypothesis that, like many struggling with addictions, MH's pubic life was much different than the life he worked hard to hide from the world.
…That being said, I really don't know...
… during the spring and summer of 2012, before he encased himself in giant headphones for the mortal combat of the Obama campaign charter — he was there (at the BuzzFeed offices in NY) most days. He gaped at the exotica an editor sitting beside him collected from dark corners of the internet. He invited the whole office to his apartment after our holiday party. He was obsessed with online animal culture and with the corgi, Bobby Sneakers, he shared with his wife, Elise Jordan. He was more obsessed, only, with Elise, whose thoughts, plans, and prospects he couldn’t stop talking about when I last saw him in New York two weeks ago. …
reply to post by WanDash
When you see the youngest brother (presumably – the family member corresponding with WhotWhatWhy.com), and the next-door neighbor, stating emphatically – that Michael Hastings was using no harder drugs than marijuana (and, perhaps, Adderall)…and, the younger brother, as well as Matt Farwell, each stating emphatically, as well, that Michael was not in a mental or psychological state conducive to or consistent with…suicide…and, you still want to take the elder brother’s summary judgment on Michael’s mental/psychological state as THE BASIS for ANY conclusion for how & why… …then… …what’s the explanation/theory?
In the previous post, I offered – “temper tantrum”…
Do you see another?
I am not ignoring NickDC202’s suggestion of meth/crack addiction…but, think I have brought other facts to bear, here, that give that suggestion an even larger hurdle to clear…and, will wait for Nick’ (or – thesmokingman, or anyone-else with such inclination) to further that argument or rebut, mine…
If we consider possible motivations outside the realm of insanity – what could have moved Michael Hastings from socially & professionally sane…(with the possible exception of, when he was ALONE with his elder brother)…to…driving INSANELY FAST on a well-trafficked city street, four hours after last known contact with anyone?
Do you see the need for “flow”?
“Flow” is the essence…
He may have been “extremely agitated” …
May have been “paranoid”…
May have been “flinching & wincing at shadows”
…he was well able to discuss business
– write intelligently, coherently and cohesively
– select an odd-fellow to blind copy the email to – and
…handle public social intercourse well enough that disinterested parties were not suspect of “something seemed wrong”…
And, LIKEWISE – able to “fool” (apparently) his elder, more-together brother…into believing he’d “passed-out”
…went to the apartment just above or below where his brother was staying, to beg the use of his friend’s car
…then waited (again – apparently) another 3 ½ hours before choosing to get into his own, SUSPECT, car…and
…you know the rest…
Could something – ANYthing – have happened in that 3 ½ hours to turn him into a psycho-maniac?
No amount of marijuana would have (imo)…and still allowed him to drive…
He would more likely have been stopped/sitting at a GREEN LIGHT (all the way through the morning's rush hour), than speeding & accelerating…through red lights…if that were the case…
A heavy dose of meth might have…but…was not evident in the toxicology report.
Likewise – one of the younger brother’s (again – presumably) complaints against the LAPD was – they were expecting to find boat loads of drugs in his apartment & in his blood…but didn’t.
So – it appears that said younger brother continues to believe that “meth” did not contribute.
I recognize the possibility that some “psychoactive” or “hallucinogenic” could inspire some pretty bizarre behavior - -
- but - - - we have no evidence aside from the elder brother’s suggestion that Michael might have begun using Dimethyltryptamine … (tested for – but not found)…
We know he was wearing jeans, “sneakers” (presumably one on each foot), socks (presumably one on each foot) and a t-shirt.
We do not know if there was luggage or an overnight bag or even if he had his laptop or other professional/investigative materials in the vehicle with him.
One would think that some of such evidences would be in and among the “debris-field”, if he had…and that, NOT EVERYTHING was burned in the fire…
Will any of this information EVER be made available to us?
If so, we might be able to improve our guesses dramatically.
If not… …
...I am by no means tied to the meth/hardcore drug idea, but looking at the info you shared about his brother and neighbor I think it is important to mention two truths:
1. Hardcore drug users typically don't advertise their usage (they make herculean efforts to hide such things from family, neighbors and close friends).
2. The investigation is wrapped up in the minds of the masses so speaking ill of the dead is behavior those close to someone avoid doing out of respect.
If you are a conspiracy theorist, it's not hard to see how they did this. Reguarding the resturant camera footage, you can get the feeling no one is in that car. The footage even shows the car completely off (no light on anywhere) a second before it crashes. Meaning it was most likely run via remote controll either into Hollywood grade explosives or the car was rigged to blow on impact. The car was programmed to shut down before the impact to create a clean explosion without error. "They" just needed a solid force to ram the car into for it to explode. Most likely same thing for Paul Walker. LAPD has been in bed with Hollywood forever, if they need streets shut down or cops on the scene to fake these deaths, you better believe they can do it.
Greetings to you, as well.
originally posted by: bowaconstricta
a reply to: WanDash
I too am thinking of the anniversary coming up and look forward to hear/read if you have anything new to add.
WikiLeaks has claimed the CIA planned to hack cars and trucks to carry out assassinations. The secretive organisation said the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency used the phone's geolocation software to tap into vehicle control systems in modern cars. The hacking organisation made the statement as it announced a huge release of confidential documents from the CIA as part of its mysterious Year Zero series, founder Julian Assange claimed. It claims the CIA has been carrying out a global covert hacking program that exploits US and European companies. It claims these include Apple's iPhone, Google's Android and Microsoft's Windows and even Samsung TVs, which it says "are turned into covert microphones." Mr Assange was set to speak about Year Zero on Facebook today, but a livestream of the event was reportedly hacked."