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Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
...I honestly Flipped when I read that thread. I could Not beleive it myself as Everyone seems in a Big Damn Hurry to call it Murder with Absolutely Nothing to back it up
...I actually bit my tongue as I am trying to turn over a new leaf, but still, couldn't help but to add just a little something to think about.
...Anyways I think it is safe to assume as I suggested before .. . ...
...This whole G[SNIP]D Damned thing is Tainted to Hell and back, and IF there is factual Proof presented that it was a "No Foul Play" accident, Everyone and their brother is going to cry foul.
...You'll not find me in that crowd because I think my motivation is a little different than the average guy.
...I am not inclided to believe that this was murder, but, if there were findings that indicated such with some concrete proof, I might very well change my line of thinking. .. . Right after I verified it for myself.
...By the way, did you notice by any chance that the thread with the "Some Seriously Good Updates" died an extremely quick death?
“…he accepts the obvious and, in some ways, more difficult explanation for his brother’s death: that Michael simply drove too fast and didn’t survive. ‘I don’t believe it’s a conspiracy … There’s no part of me that’s troubled by that.’”
Originally posted by Laxpla
I'm just curious, is there any proof that his car was controlled remotely or is it just all speculation based on speculative proof of concepts?
...I really haven't been following this whole thing but been hearing bits and pieces of it and just trying to draw my own conclusion based on the facts at hand and other previous accidents like this.
is there any proof that his car was controlled remotely
The last eight paragraphs of the book set up a final startling development. Those three Saudi princes all perished within days of one another. On July 22, 2002, Prince Ahmed was felled by a heart attack at age 43. One day later Prince Sultan bin Faisal bin Turki al-Saud, 41, was killed in what was called a high-speed car accident. The last member of the trio, Prince Fahd bin Turki bin Saud al-Kabir, officially "died of thirst" while traveling east of Riyadh one week later. And seven months after that, Mushaf Ali Mir, by then Pakistan's Air Marshal, perished in a plane crash in clear weather over the unruly North-West Frontier province, along with his wife and closest confidants
It's absolutely true you can fiddle with auto bluetooth. At one time there was a way to listen in to your car's interior BT mike from the next car over, you just had to stay real close in the chase car.
As far as that goes, I've seen a program that could dump the info from your cell phone by exploiting the BT stack.
I've seen demos of taking over auto systems by installing a module onto the car's control bus. You could fiddle with the brakes by issuing ABS and stability control commands and on some cars you could command wide open throttle too. All you needed was to snap a little plastic widget into the diagnostic port. It looked like any other car module, you'd never know it wasn't supposed to be there.
Originally posted by Laxpla
There is only one guy on these forums that I believe what he says by just his word, and it's Bedlam....he knows his stuff. You can read his past posts and you'll understand why I trust his word so much. I'm still not convinced about the whole conspiracy, but I decided to search some topics on taking control of a car and if it was possible and he chimed in on one of the threads.
Originally posted by WanDash
...Of these three…I really only find two to remain plausible after considering the contextual evidence…
1. Death Wish (total abandon – including regard for anyone-else’s life &/or property)
Tragic accident tied to many coincidences
No way to prove a thing