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originally posted by: projectbane
I have no idea why all you men are bitching like little girls.
originally posted by: projectbane
I have no idea why all you men are bitching like little girls.
I hate feminists more than the next but this thread is not about feminism.
It is more about how so many loser men are so embittered by their so called "mistreatment" by women.
I have been married 2 times. And I have no complaints. NONE.
I have worked my whole damn life all 39 years except childhood etc. I meet females in all different places from bars to coffee shops to the women's section of H&M who knows. Every good looking female is a great opportunity. I am very traditional in the fact that I believe our roles are defined to some extent.
IF i invite a girl out for a meal and drinks after I will pay. Hands down with no complaints. IF the girl offers to pay I normally decline for the meal and we can sometimes split the drinks if she insists. At the end of the day men will always pay for SEX. WE know this and I for one will take a hot woman out and have a great time with her before we head to hers every holes a goal. But that is cos I love life and I work hard to have a few things I like and spend time with females.
NO good looking girl knows how much a drink costs these days as good looking girls dont ever have to pay...that was created by MEN not women. Men thinking they can impress a women by paying for every damn thing.
Alot of you guys are claiming that you have NO finances, NO car, NO nice home....what the HELL can you offer? IT shows you have achieved nothing in life and are the prime example of a loser. Who wants a loser to raise their potential child?
originally posted by: grainofsand
originally posted by: projectbane
I have no idea why all you men are bitching like little girls.
Perhaps 'some' men, not 'all'.
I am male and have certainly not bitched anywhere in this thread. I've got plenty to offer a potential partner but nope, I don't actually want to share it with anyone right now. Recreational mutually consensual no-strings sex is all I'm interested from women, and I'm happy to report that there are plenty of females in my social circle and local area who feel a similar way to me. I am happy to be used for sex, and I'm happy to pay for all the drinks, club entrance, taxi's etc if that is the deal on offer - it's less formal than prostitution of course, but it involves payment nonetheless lol.
I see a dichotomy forming that if a woman isn't getting what she wants out of life or just has a bad situation it's EVERYONE'S fault except theirs. If a man is in the same scenario? It's NO ONE'S fault but his own.
originally posted by: projectbane
a reply to: corvuscorrax
I see a dichotomy forming that if a woman isn't getting what she wants out of life or just has a bad situation it's EVERYONE'S fault except theirs. If a man is in the same scenario? It's NO ONE'S fault but his own.
That right there is the sign of a man who is bitter and has been beaten at the game by a smarter and more savvy woman. IF you mess your life up as a man, IT IS YOUR FAULT. end of!
You wanna be a man..then be one...stop the finger pointing. Get a backbone and take responsibility!!
originally posted by: projectbane
I hate feminists more than the next but this thread is not about feminism.
IF i invite a girl out for a meal and drinks after I will pay. Hands down with no complaints. IF the girl offers to pay I normally decline for the meal and we can sometimes split the drinks if she insists. At the end of the day men will always pay for SEX. WE know this and I for one will take a hot woman out and have a great time with her before we head to hers every holes a goal. But that is cos I love life and I work hard to have a few things I like and spend time with females.
Alot of you guys are claiming that you have NO finances, NO car, NO nice home....what the HELL can you offer? IT shows you have achieved nothing in life and are the prime example of a loser. Who wants a loser to raise their potential child?
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Realtruth
There is certainly a very real but informal form of prostitution going on every weekend in my part of the UK nightlife, and it is men paying for it through drinks/meal/club entrance/taxi's and the like.
I'm all for it, it is a mutually consensual arrangement where savvy women know they can get a free evening out while choosing their preferred sexual partner for the night.
Equality much haha, nope reality, but I'm more than happy to be used if it ends up paying for the honey pot.
originally posted by: corvuscorrax
I will continue to observe and marvel at how my fellow man behaves.
Like my cousin he doesn't have his '#' together, but he has a job and a car and in America that's enough to get your thing wet. He's slept with like 20 different women over the past few months and when he comes over to have a drink with me I can tell how unsatisfied he is with it all.
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: corvuscorrax
That may well be the feelings of your cousin, but I would be careful attributing his anecdotal story to men generally.
I am single and love being single. It is a choice.
I like sex for what it is with a consenting partner - no emotions required or needed by myself - perhaps you feel differently, and that is of course fine, but you are unique, as everyone else is.
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Realtruth
Maybe 75% of divorce is a realistic figure of how many blokes are pricks in their marriage? Who knows, but blaming feminism is lame in my opinion. Men need to work hard to attract a mate these days? Nothing really new is it.
I will put the work/effort/investment in for sex, and if I wanted a relationship then I'd put the same effort in for that...women hold the keys and blokes have to work for it, hardly front page news.
Ah fair one, I'm just attracted to recreational sex though, not looking for a partner.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: grainofsand
See, never wanted to be used. I wanted an equal partner.
Agreed, most days I'm plastering walls and I've never met a female plasterer, although I think I'd be proper attracted to one if I did, especially if she was better than me...that's another story though.
Manhood is about the attitude one takes to every single second of the day, the will and determination to do whatever it takes to get ones work done, no matter how much it hurts, no matter how much you sweat, and no matter the size of the blisters you get doing it, or the size of the metal shards you end up pulling out of your skin at the end of the day.
I work a real job, I do not wear a tie to work because it would be a safety hazard. I work around high speed cutting machinery, and the work I do requires a perfect balance of brain and brawn. Manhood is pretty much synonymous with what I do all day, and the attitude I take to living life. If manhood were the problem, then I would not be having one. Its all the stuffed shirted, soft handed, workshy office dwelling cubicle jockeys making money doing NOTHING that confuse the issue.
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I think that there are so many things in society right now, playing into the collapse of the traditional relationship model, that it would be outrageous to try to place any emphasis whatsoever on any one facet affecting the situation. You have the rampant feminism of some females, the outright chauvensim of some males (who give the rest of us a bad name, and should be dipped in high molar acid as a thank you from the rest of us), the historical discrimination against women in the workplace, unequal pay still affecting the situation, you have the oversexualisation of the youth of the last few generations out of the gate, you have the financial collapse putting strain on already aggrieved familes and relationships... its a plethora of issues that need addressing.