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Is new age feminism getting out of hand?

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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 07:34 AM
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Methinks there are a lot of men around and some even on this thread with a huge chip

on their shoulder?

What ever gives them the idea that a 'feminist' ( I aim to stop using that word in any

future posts substituting woman instead) is remotely interested in a subservient 'man'?

A 'woman' likes a strong, confident man to stand EQUALLY along side

her




posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 07:37 AM
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This is what the first wave of feminism stood for, and it worked well.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 07:38 AM
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You are right about twitter I think. Because I know nothing about twitter nor facebook. Using the word twitter was a mistake (I'm sorry). But I' m sure modern communication will make women aware. All the rest you say is nonsens.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 07:40 AM
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What are you drinking!??

The whole modern Feminist Agenda is to have upper hold on men.

subservient 'man' is the ultimate agenda. Media is already pumping out those type of "men"... you know the 15 yr old looking feminine ones?

"hey kids!, this is the type of men that women likes"


You can't stand equality with man, it is just impossible, that would not be men, different quality and traits. Same reason why men cannot be equal to females.

With treatment and respect sure, it should be given, but by physically? not even close(this includes physically demanding jobs too).



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 07:50 AM
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I know of no one who would disagree that men are physically stronger than women


But IF men used their brain instead of their testosterone the world might just become

a better place!

LOL.. A thought just occurred to me MY brain, YOUR testosterone formidable



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 07:51 AM
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xxxx



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:04 AM
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That does not even make sense! Brain and testosterone!?? nice subtle way of calling men stupid while using all the invention by men.

I think for one, if women ruled the world, nuke silos would be empty, because the nukes would be on the country with a female president who wore the same outfits.

Men are more logical and less emotional. When world safety is on the line, i want less emotional as possible during decision making.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:08 AM
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Ying and yang comes to mind.

Sometimes you need an emotional response some times need to favor logic over emotion. Known when to use what is the real magic.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:10 AM
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Haha, i didn't say men are void of emotion, i said less is good.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

Originally posted by Thundersmurf

Originally posted by Dark Ghost
The oppression card seems to be used quite often in this thread, but rarely examined. For those of you claiming that the lack of achievements by and progress of women is due to patriarchy and male oppression, I encourage you to answer the following questions:

1) Why have women allowed themselves to be dominated by men for thousands of years?

2) Why did it take women so long to rise up in a collective voice and push for social change?

3) Why do women rely on gender quotas to succeed in the fields that men tend to excel in, but men do not rely on the same in areas women tend to excel in?


edit on 30/7/2013 by Dark Ghost because: (no reason given)


Excellent points, my friend; especially the third. I doubt anyone will answer you though due to the answer not tying in with the "men oppress women" regime.

Am I the only one that thinks there should be different coloured stars in this thread; blue or pink depending on given gender? I'd be curious to see who's starring what.


You're right, How would you react if ATS decided that men's star's would show up pink? Would you start a thread about feeling emasculated over a colour?


Not at all. I don't feel emasculated by anything. It would be fun to have varying colours of stars ; guys would definitely be blue though, and girls pink/red. Surely there wouldn't be an uproar about colour choice?



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:26 AM
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And by ying and yang i meant we have both in larger or smaller quantity



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:29 AM
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Could be wrong .... but you are either very young or have lived a sheltered life?

or I am very mature and have forgotten ... because all the women I know from teens

all the way up are far more logical than any man. or maybe its just my circle?



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:29 AM
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Something some of you may want to think about regarding the 'weaker sex':

Anyone can sleep with a woman; that's low hanging fruit, but, it takes a real man to take it like a man from a man, and give it like a man in turn.

Talk about testosterone.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:35 AM
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I had to come back to these because there has been quite a bit of debate over these points, and I wanted to add a different perspective.


Originally posted by bates
no woman has ever passed the SAS entrance course.

FACT.


I have no doubt that you are correct here. I am assuming that you are referring to the United Kingdom Special Forces Selection. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I am one of those that is of the opinion that women should be held to the same physical standards as men when it comes to military endeavors. This should apply across the board, not just special forces. Being in the military is a physical job, and other lives depend upon your physical capacity. There are different MOS's that may not require as much physical capacity, but in a conflict even a nurse may be put in a situation where other lives depend on her ability to keep up. Perhaps I am only willing to say this because when my husband was in the military I could pass his P.T. test. Until you put that 50lb rucksack on. Then there was no way, so I would be out. I can accept that men have a greater physical capacity than women that makes them better suited for some endeavors than we are.


Originally posted by bates

All of the worlds most cleverest people throughout history are men.

FACT.


At first glance this looks like a specious argument, and the irony of "most cleverest" in a statement asserting superior intelligence is kind of funny... But this may actually have some play.

Now, the knee jerk response from most women is to say that the intelligence among men and women is the same, and I'm sorry to break it to you ladies but it's not. However, I'm sorry to break it to you gentleman, it's probably not what you think.

Men are far more likely to have an anomalous intelligence. So while there are more men than women that are geniuses, there are also more men than women that are below average intelligence, or raving psychopaths. Female intelligence is more consistent, but less likely to produce a breakthrough in medicine or quantum physics. Please note, that none of this says that women can't make contributions in math, science, music, philosophy, or what-have-you, just that men have a greater statistical likely hood of being the intellectual equivalent of Prometheus bringing fire down to humankind, which are the ones that history takes special note of.

So those real society shakers and game changers in the intellectual realm are more likely to be male on a strictly biological level, which gives men an edge in that regard. However, they are more likely than women to be a societal burden in terms of intelligence or psychological deviance as well.

There is of course, the societal perspective that has barred women from making a contribution in those endeavors, which does further skew the historical data, but it is difficult to say just how much.

So long story short, in the end while women are less likely to have an Einstein or Beethoven in their ranks, you won't find a woman on earth that thinks strapping a homemade rocket to a car is a good idea.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:49 AM
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Quote "Men are more logical and less emotional when world safety is on the line. I want

less emotional as possible during decision making"





Name me one woman who has started any war in the last 2,000 years?



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by Druscilla

Anyone can sleep with a woman; that's low hanging fruit



Millions of internet neckbeard wearing basement dwellers do not know this.

Pictures and videos however, cannot fail them



Also i think its the men that are easy, women are fussy!



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 09:00 AM
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Hahaha, likewise, with women yada yada.

Screw heterosexuality, only the weakest of both sexes do that...


Feminists are sexist, pretend to stand against it but promote it in the reverse order.
edit on 31-7-2013 by DAZ21 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by eletheia
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Quote "Men are more logical and less emotional when world safety is on the line. I want

less emotional as possible during decision making"





Name me one woman who has started any war in the last 2,000 years?


Elizabeth I

15th century Maire o Ciaragain leads Irish clans in rebellion.[12]
In 1539, Gaitana of the Paez led the indigenous people of northern Cauca, Colombia in armed resistance against colonization by the Spanish. Her monument sculpted by Rodrigo Arenas stands in Neiva, the capital of Huila in Colombia.
In 1630, Nzinga of Ndongo and Matamba from the Kingdom of Matamba led a series of revolts against the Portuguese. She aligned with the Dutch Republic, forming the first African-European alliance against another European aggressor.[13]
In 1720–1739, Granny Nanny, a spiritual leader of the Maroons of Jamaica, leads rebel slaves in First Maroon War against the British.[14]
In 1748, Marretje Arents leads the Pachtersoproer.
In 1763, Gabriela Silang led a revolution against the Spanish to establish an independent Ilocos, which was started by his husband, Diego Silang in after her husband was assassinated in 1763.
In 1778, Baltazara Chuiza leads a rebellion against the Spanish in Ecuador.[15]
In 1780, Huillac Ñusca of the Kolla tribe rebels against the Spanish in Chile.
In 1781, Manuela Beltrán, a Neogranadine (now Colombia) peasant leads revolt against the Spanish Government and sparks the Revolt of the Comuneros.
In 1782, Bartolina Sisa, an Aymara woman who led an indigenous uprising against the Spanish in Bolivia, is captured and executed.
On October 25, 1785, Toypurina, a Tongva medicine woman rebels against the Spanish, leading an attack against Mission San Gabriel Arcángel.
In 1796-1798, Wang Cong'er is the leader and commander of the White Lotus rebellion in China.
In 1803, Lorenza Avemanay leads a revolt against Spanish occupation in Ecuador.[16]
In 1819 Antonia Santos, a Neogranadine (now Colombia) peasant, galvanized, organized, and led the rebel guerrillas in the Province of Socorro against the invading Spanish troops during the Reconquista of the New Granada; she was ultimately captured, tried, and found guilty of lese-majesty and high treason, sentenced and ultimately put to death by firing squad.
In 1821, Laskarina Bouboulina, was a Greek[17][18][19][20] naval commander who led her own troops during the Greek War of Independence until the fall of the fort on November 13, 1822. Posthumously, she became an Admiral of the Imperial Russian Navy.
In 1824, Kittur Chennamma led an armed rebellion against the British in response to the Doctrine of lapse. The resistance ended in her martyrdom.[21] She was the first woman to fight against British governance and the kappa tax.
In 1831, Countess Emilia Plater creates her own group to fight in the Polish November Uprising. She becomes commanding officer of a company of infantry in the rank of captain.
In 1857–1858, Rani Lakshmibai of Jhansi was one of the leaders of the Indian rebellion of 1857. Begum Hazrat Mahal also led a band of her supporters against the British in the revolt.
In 1871, Gregoria Apaza, an Aymara woman, leads an uprising against the Spanish in Bolivia.
In 1896, Shona spiritual leader Nehanda Nyakasikana rebels against colonization of Zimbabwe.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by AthlonSavage
A feminists greatest delight is to bring a man to his knees and make him squirm at her knees like a obedient frightened slave.


Is that before or after she drinks the blood of a new born?



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by Thundersmurf




You're right, How would you react if ATS decided that men's star's would show up pink? Would you start a thread about feeling emasculated over a colour?



Not at all. I don't feel emasculated by anything. It would be fun to have varying colours of stars ; guys would definitely be blue though, and girls pink/red. Surely there wouldn't be an uproar about colour choice?


And why would guys definitely be blue? Maybe i think Pink is more of a man's colour. Maybe i think it would bring out your eyes better?

In all honestly ive often wanted to know the gender of people when it comes to the Abortion topics. I would bet quite a bit that its mainly the men who come out with extremist pro-life-abuse-womens-bodies-like-they're-just-vessels opinions.

If you start a petition i'll sign it!
edit on 31-7-2013 by SearchLightsInc because: (no reason given)



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