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Eat My Flesh Drink My Blood. John 6:54

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posted on Aug, 3 2013 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by TheOd
Pizza.

Everybody likes pizza.






Who do you work for!


MIke




posted on Aug, 4 2013 @ 11:49 AM
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rofl



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 02:28 AM
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You have very interesting views on The Bible, especially with the Jesus hallucination thing.

I want to hear more, if you don't mind sharing.
edit on 6-8-2013 by arpgme because: spelling



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 09:35 AM
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Four pages and nobody posted the answer that I could see from the bible which answers this.
Just before his death Jesus explained this on the last passover meal.

Matthew 26:26-28 Amplified Bible


26 Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread and, praising God, gave thanks and asked Him to bless it to their use, and when He had broken it, He gave it to the disciples and said, Take, eat; this is My body.

27 And He took a cup, and when He had given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, Drink of it, all of you;

28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which [ratifies the agreement and] is being poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.


Obviously not literal, but there is a ceremony for Christians to observe once a year that involves bread and wine to fulfill Jesus request, it replaced the passover for Christians.

Another version

Luke 22: 19 & 20 ISV

Then he took a loaf of bread, gave thanks, broke it in pieces, and handed it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Keep on doing this in memory of me.” 20 He did the same with the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant sealed by my blood, which is being poured out for you.


By honoring Jesus request once a year we show our respect for the sacrifice he made sacrificing his physical body and blood that was poured out on behalf of all humanity. It is a request he made to all Christians to "Keep doing".



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 12:45 PM
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. . . nobody posted the answer that I could see from the bible which answers this.

Why would Matthew and Luke explain a passage in the gospel of John?
Jesus was not giving a lecture on the Passover when he made the comment that is the basis of the OP.
The context was people declaring him a prophet, not based on anything he said, but based on a material miracle of multiplying the loaves of bread and the fish.
Eating bread and fish will not give anyone eternal life, but internalizing Jesus' teachings will.
edit on 6-8-2013 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Blue_Jay33
 

. . . nobody posted the answer that I could see from the bible which answers this.

Why would Matthew and Luke explain a passage in the gospel of John?
Why would Matthew plagiarize the Talmud of Jmmanuel written by our Pleidian friends?

Ask Billy Meier -chortle-



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 08:16 PM
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You are well versed in the bible, and I know that you are aware that some verses are made clearer by other area's of the bible, as Jesus words in John were obviously not literal, we know it had to be symbolic and Jesus explained it later on. And if you read this whole account you come realize Jesus was not only alluding to his future death and what it represented and how people would need to accept and respect it to be saved, but also it was test for all to see if they would continue to follow him despite a bizarre statement that violated common sense and the mosaic law. Those with faith stuck with Jesus and he explained it later on to those that were still with him.



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by mikegrouchy

Originally posted by Bleeeeep

Do you have a straightforward answer or just more riddles?


I have more,
but I don't feel that you will like it.

I still have no idea what you stand for,
but
you have stepped forward.
That is enough for me.

So here is mine.
What I stand for.

Mike
==========================
What did John think of Jesus. He lived in
the desert wearing a shirt made of camel's hair,
fed on locusts, and preached the coming of the
kingdom.

Jesus shows up, gets to dip in the river Jordan,
and then wanders in the desert for forty days
without food. Fasting leads to hallucinations.
The desert is John's home. Lets fly in there and
watch as they interact.





John comes up to Jesus and says, "The locust are
tasty, once you get used to them, and got me
these muscles. You can find them hiding in the
shade under the stones. Just turn one over."

And the tempter coming said to him: If
thou be the Son of God, command that these stones
be made bread.

(Jesus)Who answered and said: It is written, Not
in bread alone doth man live, but in every word
that proceedeth from the mouth of God.

- Mathew 4:3 - 4


John said "Locust is a word. And went away
confused."




John realizes that Jesus is following him, but
still isn't eating. So he leads him to the
village at Qumran. Every instance where John had
gotten near Qumran the people there had tried to
bathe him without his permission, so he crept up
and peered down. Jesus came up along side him to
see what he was looking at.

John says "There is city food down there. I can
smell it. But be careful. They will make you go
into their pools of water and hold your arms so
you don't slip, and rub you down with soap. Soap
they call it. They write a lot of books down
there."



Then the devil took him up into the holy city,
and set him upon the pinnacle of the temple,
And said to him: If thou be the Son of God, cast
thyself down, for it is written: That he hath
given his angels charge over thee, and in their
hands shall they bear thee up, lest perhaps thou
dash thy foot against a stone.

Jesus said to him: It is written again: Thou
shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

- Mathew 4:5 - 7






The next day, still being followed John was
wondering what to do. This man will not eat.
But dying in the desert from starvation is bad.
So John went to the peak of the tallest hill, and
they arrived at night. All around they could see
the fires of various towns, villages and camps
burning in all directions, and John said "There
are women in all these places who will feed
strangers. They won't feed me cause they say I
am not adorable. But maybe they will feed you.
If you will just go down to one of them. Maybe
they will adore ye."


Again the devil took him up into a very
high mountain, and shewed him all the kingdoms of
the world, and the glory of them,

And said to him: All these will I give
thee, if falling down thou wilt adore me.

Then Jesus saith to him: Begone, Satan:
for it is written, The Lord thy God shalt thou
adore, and him only shalt thou serve.

- Matthew 4:8 - 9






John left him there and went to Qumran where he
told the people "There is a man named Jesus on
top of the mountain. He is near to death from
lack of food. Please have mercy on him and bring
him something to eat. He may listen to your
white robes, where my ugly self has offended
him." And the men went and did as John said.


Then the devil left him; and behold angels came
and ministered to him.

- Matthew 4:10



The men climbed to the top of the hill, called
Jesus by name, and fed him. They brought him down
to the village, where they treated him. Aside
from some hearing loss, he would make a full
recovery. Months later they learned that John had
been arrested. They told Jesus in a loud voice
"The man John, who sent you to us has been
arrested by the Pharisees, and was turned over to
that vile King Herod." But they had to keep
saying it over and over. Pharisees is not an easy
word to say both loud and clearly. Till one of
them stooped down and wrote the word in the sand.


And when Jesus had heard that John was delivered up, he retired into Galilee:

- Matthew 4:12



I would like to know where your misinterpretation of the bible came from. To much Gnostic reading? To much ego maybe? As one who ate more than their share of acid and other mind alter substances of the 70’s your remark about burnt out people on the beach paints with a very broad brush. If you’re going to give the 10% you might as well give the whole 30% required under the law. And if you place yourself under the law. You know what Paul wrote about that.



posted on Aug, 7 2013 @ 01:52 AM
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It's not a mystery, Jesus tells you what it means later on. He was speaking about the future "Lord's Supper" commonly referred to as Communion, which was the soon to be "the Way" (a.k.a. christianity) version of Passover.

You have to understand that he was the Word made flesh, or the Torah. It's not speaking about cannibalism, it's speaking about consuming his teaching and taking it inside of you. The wine represents his blood or soul that was shed for us (offered up for our wrong doings), as the jews believed 2000 years ago that the soul was in the blood.

It's an allegorical fulfillment of the first Passover in the book of Exodus.



posted on Aug, 7 2013 @ 03:58 AM
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It's not a mystery, Jesus tells you what it means later on.
In verse 58 he says,

This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”

then in verse 68 Peter shows that he understood Jesus by saying,

“Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.

He was speaking about the future "Lord's Supper" commonly referred to as Communion, which was the soon to be "the Way" (a.k.a. christianity) version of Passover.
Rather than a reference to the Last Supper, where in the synoptics Jesus institutes the symbols, this is where in John that Jesus institutes the practice of connecting the symbols to Jesus, alternatively.

You have to understand that he was the Word made flesh, or the Torah.
I don't think that I have to "understand" any of that because I don't think that the Bible says that. This is a way that Jews, calling themselves messianic, try to diminish Jesus by making out that all he was is an example of someone carrying out the Old Testament laws.

It's not speaking about cannibalism, it's speaking about consuming his teaching and taking it inside of you.
I agree with this part since I already said essentially the same thing.

The wine represents his blood or soul that was shed for us (offered up for our wrong doings),
Except that Jesus does not mention wine in John 6, but he mentions drinking his blood, four times.
In verse 35 he says,

and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.

though he does not tell them right there exactly what they will be drinking. He was involved in making an analogy relating to Israel's time in the wilderness, that according to the story, none of them were lost from starving to death or thirst. So in the eternal scale of things, none who believe in Jesus and take upon themselves his attributes, will be lost.

as the jews believed 2000 years ago that the soul was in the blood.
Or "life".

It's an allegorical fulfillment of the first Passover in the book of Exodus.
It relates to the time period following the first Passover according to the story.
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posted on Aug, 7 2013 @ 04:05 AM
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. . . if you read this whole account you come realize Jesus was not only alluding to his future death . . .
It mentions twice, the disciple or disciples, who will eventually betray him.
Otherwise I see no direct reference to his death in this section.
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posted on Aug, 11 2013 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by arpgme


You have very interesting views on The Bible, especially with the Jesus hallucination thing.

I want to hear more, if you don't mind sharing.



Uh, I'm a little nervous about this,
but I will tell boldly what
Jesus Christ said when I saw him.


I had a dream one night during an affair with a gorgeous blonde Hebrew girl.

I saw a tunnel that went underwater and I dove in and came up on the other side.
There was where the tunnel continued and went underwater again.
The tunnel still continued and I had to dive underwater yet again.

The third time I came up for air I see Jesus standing there.

I get out of the water and walk toward him holding hands with my girlfriend on my right side.
(dream logic I guess, she wasn't swimming or running with me, but now all of a sudden she is here)

I am excited and want him to meet her. He looked at me and said... I'll never forget this as he
nailed my first sin exactly like he really knew me better than I knew myself. He said...

"I see you are wearing two pairs of socks.
Either you got dressed in a hurry or you've been masturbating."


I saw Jesus there standing there In a relaxed pose,
with his arms down by his side,
and he is wearing a long white robe that goes down to his feet,
but I can see the front half of his feet.
He has a beard and he is looking right at me.


And that's it.
That was the dream.
A week later my girlfriend goes to Washington D.C. shopping around for a better boyfriend.
One with more drive, status and prospects.
When she gets back,
she tell me how stressed out the guys family is.
His mom was drunk at dinner,
his dad edgy and irritable.
Then she told me I was the most relaxed person she had ever met.

But she didn't mean it in a good way.
And that was the end of the relationship.

The guy and his Washington family were consumed by ambition,
and I was not ambitious enough.
For her.


Mike



posted on Aug, 11 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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That was back in the 90's

Since then,
browsing the internet
this is the closest picture I have found
to what I saw.




Except there was no heart light,
that I could see
and his arms were relaxed at his side.

And I did get a deep vibe of relaxed and groovy.
He wasn't really accusing or angry or anything,
just stating a fact, like reading my nametag or something.


Mike



posted on Aug, 11 2013 @ 11:23 AM
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to your OP,

...you need to understand, that the Egyptian Spells use the physical body to imprison the soul inside it :
by "eating"

which are most Devious Spells: simply since ány physical body requires food...no ?

but evil connécts the evil concepts and deities tó the food - to 'consume them' and get them Inside.

so...these words of Him were to Undo thát.

[ not so much the literal communion: that was, as expected, very soon Misused by the RCC as Vampiristic Ritual - used exactly like the Spells]

bless,




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