The Ancients Knew More Than We Give Credit..

Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by EA006

 

This is what I have wondered myself, what exactly is it a beacon for, and let alone for whom?

It is almost as if someone is designating the Planet Saturn, as a source of wisdom...

Another thing I've been looking into is that Saturn was also represented by a sickle, much like how you harvest crops with a sickle....

Back a few years ago, HiddenHand, mentioned the same word "Harvest" about the near future...

Does anybody have information on Saturn, the Harvester?

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I have always believed Saturn was special and held more significance than we are normally taught in school. Not because of the rings and all the other wonderful things about this 'planet' but the mysteries. And the ancients worshipped Saturn as a god. Am I correct? And as another member(circleofdust I think) said, it mysteriously radiates heat and could've been our original sun. There is alot we don't know about Saturn.

reply to post by WhiteNite

And the ancients worshipped Saturn as a god. Am I correct?

Not exactly. The "ancients" worshiped their gods and named the planets after them.

could've been our original sun.

No. It is far too small to have been a star.

Originally posted by Granite
Look for the hexagrams:
Indian Hexagram
And this Saturn astrology:

Saturn

If, in the second link, you are referring to the hexagram in the center of the Yantra for Saturn, you can stop expecting gasps.

The same shape is featured in the Yantras for Jupiter and Mercury.

Harte

reply to post by Phage


I think I've lost count of the number of assumptions you've made in just your two brief statements.

reply to post by CircleOfDust

Ah. I see.
And you make none, of course.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by WhiteNite

 

And the ancients worshipped Saturn as a god. Am I correct?

Not exactly. The "ancients" worshiped their gods and named the planets after them.

could've been our original sun.

No. It is far too small to have been a star.

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. Oh ok.. You dont think they worshipped planets and that the planets were their gods? Interesting idea though.. Also do you believe there is anyway saturn could 'ignite' and become a small star.. And does it really radiate heat?

reply to post by WhiteNite

Do you believe there is anyway it could 'ignite' and become a small star

No. It does not have enough mass to initiate or sustain nuclear fusion. The minimum mass for a star is about 75 times the mass of Jupiter.

And does it really radiate heat?

Yes it does. While it is not massive enough to fusion, it is massive enough for its gasses to be compressed and produce heat. As does Jupiter.

Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by VeritasAequitas

 

Well done; it looks like you hit some kind of jackpot.

In Qabala, six is the number of the sephira Tipereth, and therefore this hexagon represents the beauty and spiritual love manifested in the natural universe.

Good. We now have a basis for discussion. Could you please explain, next, how a hexagon-shaped storm on Saturn represents 'the beauty and spiritual love manifested in the natural universe'? Bearing in mind, of course, that Saturn was in no way a beautiful, spiritual or loving deity:

The potential cruelty of Saturn was enhanced by his identification with Cronus, known for devouring his own children. He was thus equated with the Carthaginian god Ba'al Hammon, to whom children were sacrificed. Later this identification gave rise to the African Saturn, a cult that enjoyed great popularity til the 4th century. It had a popular but also a mysteric character and required child sacrifices. Source

You tell me I'm shifting the goalposts. On the contrary, I am merely trying to ensure that they are firmly planted, and that they are still the same goalposts we started the game with. When you try to make a hexagon into a hexagram, it is you, not I, who are shifting goalposts. It's no use trying to muddy the issue by saying a hexagon contains a hexagram; if a storm on Saturn looks like a hexagon, it should be represented by a hexagon, not a hexagram.

My point – and I will repeat it here, for clarity – is that the kind of thinking that equates hexagons with hexagrams, or the ages of man in Greek mythology with the ages of the universe in Indian cosmology as you did in an earlier thread, is the kind of thinking can connect anything with anything – and usually does. It is fantasy and make-believe, useless for any meaningful, practical purpose.

Sadly for me, it took me this long to even understand what you two were bickering about.

If that brilliant mind of yours spent half the time you use questioning the ideas of others with actually pondering the "what if's" of said ideas, I bet we'd all be in a better place by now. Perhaps "mind firmly closed" isn't the way to go?

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by WhiteNite

 

Do you believe there is anyway it could 'ignite' and become a small star

No. It does not have enough mass to initiate or sustain nuclear fusion. The minimum mass for a star is about 75 times the mass of Jupiter.

And does it really radiate heat?

Yes it does. While it is not massive enough to fusion, it is massive enough for its gasses to be compressed and produce heat. As does Jupiter.

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i remember reading that 60 lbs of plutonium were dumped on both saturn and jupiter any info on that phage

Must be something in this thread the Skeptics don't like...Now they are all here to thread crash...

Hi boys!!

reply to post by geobro

The Galileo probe contained about 50 pounds of plutonium (its power supply). It was crashed into Jupiter in order to preclude the possibility of it hitting and contaminating one of its Moons.

reply to post by VeritasAequitas


Several presences caught my attention both for and against. So far, interesting thread thanks for sharing!

And completely dumbfounded to learn there is such a "unnatural" natural formation on the pole of Saturn. You know ,the six planet out....

More interesting is to read the skeptics arguments about what the ancients knew or didn't know and ignore the fact there is an almost equal sided hexagon on the pole of Saturn.

*shrug*.

You know I was always taught that arms folded across you is actually the same as "mind firmly shut" rofl. Coincidence? Perhaps, perhaps not.

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cheers phage i knew i read that somewhere do you know the name of the one that hit saturn thanks geo

reply to post by geobro

None.

reply to post by Rosinitiate


look 19.47 degrees either above or below the equator of every planet in the solar system and you will come across a area of interest to science

reply to post by geobro

I think that could be said of any latitude on another planet.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by geobro

 

None.

None yet.

saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...

What is to become of the spacecraft? Is it eventually going to degrade and smash into Saturn's atmosphere? This is currently undecided. We are waiting until we see what targets may turn out to be environmentally sensitive, and then make a decision regarding the final disposition of the spacecraft. Going into Saturn's atmosphere as Galileo did at Jupiter may be difficult to accomplish because of the need to fly through the rings for an orbit or two and yet maintain a functioning spacecraft capable of going the rest of the way down to the atmosphere. The orbit of the spacecraft won't degrade by itself. We would have to actively control it to a Saturn impact if that is the way the mission is finally ended.

reply to post by Phage

the bermuda triangle and the devils triangle on the opposite side on the earth / the great red spot on jupiter /cydonia on mars all at 19.47 degrees

I am not going to fall for this dangling-carrot post. What are we all stupid? Thank God that Ancient Aliens had the common rationality to impose reason on its passions! What if ancient tech got into the hands of real aliens, then we'd all be F'd!

reply to post by geobro

Science isn't really interested in the Bermuda triangle or Cydonia (more than any other part of Mars).

But what about Mercury, Venus, Saturn, Neptune, and Uranus. What have they got?