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Originally posted by wildtimes
I wonder what you think is his objective.
n some parts of the world, women's basic literacy and education reflects serious inequality: in Yemen women's literacy is only 28% vs. 70% for men; in Pakistan, it is 28% vs. 53% for men. Percentages of women pursuing post-secondary educations dip as low as 8% and 13% in Morocco and Pakistan respectively (comparable to 3.7% in Brazil, or 11% in the Czech Republic).
But these figures do not represent the entire Muslim world; women's literacy rates in Iran and Saudi Arabia are 70% and as high as 85% in Jordan and Malaysia. In education, significant percentages of women in Iran (52%), Egypt (34%), Saudi Arabia (32%), and Lebanon (37%) have post-secondary educations.
Even in Tamil Nadu and Kerala, wich have high literacy rates among all communities, including Muslims, the work participation rate of Muslims is 14 percentage points lower than that Hindus
what is your criteria? Or is it floating with the only objective to make Islam look bad even at the expense of making yourself look ridiculously prejudices?
The Muslim Clergy, Mullahs and Moulavis, are often blamed for the backwardness of the Muslim community. It is held that not all the Mullahs and Moulavis are well-versed in the religious aspects of Islam. However, there is nothing to restrain them from issuing fatwas on all and sundry matters, without realising the adverse impact that such fatwas may have on the persons/families seeking religious guidance.
Not all the problems of the modern times have answers in the Qur'an and Hadith. It is for the Muslim Clergy issuing fatwas to consider the issues carefully before handing out their opinions on a given matter.
The challenges before the Muslim community are not only numerous but also varied.
The community is in need of a proper guidance so that it does not find itself mired in further complications by heeding to fatwas that are not well thought of. The main purpose [of the workshop] was, therefore, to invite discussions of the socio-economic issues than delve into religious issues.
· ---->Muslim Community should give more importance to secular education for social upliftment.
· ----> The quality of syllabus in Madrassa should be improved.
· ----> The curriculum of science subject in Madrassa should be modified in such a way that students should be able to develop scientific temper. Syllabus should be in compliance with modern educational theories.
· ----> As even poor Muslims want to send their children to English medium schools, the community should set up English medium schools. Muslim managements should to start schools for technical education.
· Zakat should be collected by the Zakat Board should be used for education and other activities
· ----> The text books used in Madrassa are translated from Hindi, and there are lots of mistakes due to poor translation. Students who only have madrassa education are less likely to get government jobs
· ---->Islamic world also should try to establish universities like Oxford and Cambridge.
· Community leaders and organisations should take initiatives to start IAS and IPS training centres for youth in the community, which would result in changes in the level of policy making in the long run.
· ----> Gender based discrimination and violence within the community at the family and society levels should be addressed properly.
· ----> Muslim women are not getting proper religious education as well.
· Microfinance can be used for the development of community women.
Originally posted by logical7
what is your criteria?
Brazil also has low literacy rate and majority are christian, so it means...
Christiandom has a high literacy rate? Really?
i read a book Pope Joah recently it shows how women were treated when Christiandom was really in power,
So you are really lucky to be born in this time otherwise you would be worse off than any muslim woman
so don't take the moral high ground when exactly the opposite happened in the muslim world and you are judging Islam from events in the last 100years.
Your progress started when your people kicked their religion away.
Our progress stopped when muslims stopped following Islam. It should to obvious to anyone who has read both histories.
I obviously support sharia and its not your interpretation
You showed your obvious bias very clearly when you answered my question about what you think of educated Western women accepting Islam and being 70% of the total converts in USA.
Originally posted by wildtimes
And YOUR progress STOPPED altogether, and went into decline and chaos, as soon as "your people kicked the colonists away"!
Originally posted by wildtimes
You all just can't get along with each other,
An Islamic cleric has cleared the path for rebels in Syria, who are trying to oust President Bashar Assad, to rape women, so long as they’re non-Sunni.
Salafi Sheikh Yasir al-Ajlawni, who hails from Jordan but who lived in Damascus for 17 years, sent a message via YouTube: It’s a “legitimate fatwa” for Muslims waging war against Mr. Assad and trying to put in place a Sharia government to “capture and have sex with” Alawites and other non-Sunni, non-Muslim women, Human Events reports. Mr. Assad is part of the Alawites sect.
Muhammad al-Arifi, a Wahhabi religious cleric, is being widely quoted on web sites like Salon as issuing a fatwa that allowed jihadists in Syria fighting the government to enter into “intercourse marriage” that has been taken as authorizing the rape of Syrian women. Al-Arifi is quoted as expressing concern that Saudis fighting with the opposition have not been with a woman in two years and must be allowed to take care of their “sexual problems.”
He is further quoted as restricting the fatwa to Syrian females at least 14 years old, widowed or divorced. Al-Arifi is quoted as saying that such sexual assaults “boost the determination of the mujahideen in Syria and is considered a duty to enter paradise for those females who enter such marriages.”
The recent declaration of a fatwa (a binding religious decree) by the Sunni Egyptian cleric, Yusuf al-Qaradawi, against the Shia militant movement, Hezbollah, and Iran as enemies of Islam who are “more infidel than Jews and Christians” is a dangerous turn portending endless war among Muslims on sectarian lines.
Qaradawi’s poisonous rhetoric, which is influencing tens of millions of Sunnis globally via the Qatari television channel, Al Jazeera, is exacerbating the fratricide in Syria, where violence between Sunnis and Shiites is bringing back memories of historic battles and grudges between the two main sects of Islam.
Nevertheless, Muslims killing Muslims has amounted to over 10m. In other words, over the past 60 years 90% of the Muslims killed have been killed by their own people this surely is not Islam! Why are Muslim sects so hateful of one another? What right has the Taliban to think that its ideology has to be accepted by all others? Do they think that just by forcing women to wear black from . to toe is following Islam? Is it the dress or the mind that has to be Islamic? What the Islamic world cannot deny is that it may follow Islam but Muslims are united in hate. As aspect that is making Islam what it is, is its close association to politics which goes hand in hand with the desire for power o f a cult/tribe.
If you want to preach, ATS isn't the place for it.
Its better that we remain silent, sit back and enjoy the great show being put on by the west.
But remember, our friends here imagine the worst about OUR community and wouldn't hesitate to bring up a worst case scenario to point fingers at Islam. Ever time it happens, just remind them of their own decadence...
Thanks for your concern and suggestions i would definitely use them against the hopeless kind!!
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
just remind them of their own decadence...
That's just stupid. Address the problems within your OWN culture...:
a luxurious self-indulgence. It is often used to describe a decline due to an erosion of moral, ethical, or sexual traditions.
muslim men "know their place" too, why you paint the term as bad? Each individual has responsibilities and rights in a society and its better for harmony if they do things accordingly.
I stated muslim women are not ashamed to be women and are accepted as women without a need to impress or prove themselves.
a woman is free to choose. You answer me why you ask such questions?
Is it not because women in west are brainwashed by feminist ideology to "prove" themselves better than a man in any field?
Why is the other sex an enemy rather than a equal helper to make life easier?
A woman can choose to do business if she wants but muslim women don't have that overt need to do it to "show them"
what woman "chooses" to be a single mother? except hardcore brainwashed feminist?
If a muslim woman ends up as a single mother, she is helped by the society and under sharia its the state's responsibility to care for her wellbeing. She can work if she is able to and wants to but if not then her male relatives or if she has nobody then the state will provide her. The ex husband has to provide for the kid/s completely and even her if she does not have any source.
do you even realise that you have a typical sterotype view about muslims?
Some places it may happen that women walk behind and the people don't know much about islam, they rather follow what they saw their fathers following(thats actual how majority get a religion), its not a law in islam! Its more a male dominating culture which accepted islam and now all of the cultural things are assumed to represent islam!
It would be same as me asking are all the sterotypes and jokes about canadians being true!
Actually I do realise that.... That's why I've been asking you questions for the past few months...
Do YOU realise your views of the west are rather backwards as well?
So say... IF a man decided he wanted to be a nurse... that would be acceptable? There wouldn't be any backlash from the community?
Well lets see... My mother chose to be a single mother... Shes not a "hardcore feminist"... Shes just a strong lady that didn't need help from anyone... Intelligent and driven in everything she does... shes my hero too by the way... Such ridiculous assumptions
Being a single mother is like choosing to be alone. Who wants to be alone by choice? Unless there was hurts and scars of the past and being alone is an improvement.
What if she doesn't have an ex husband? Will she be stoned for having a baby out of wedlock?