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Originally posted by poloblack
Well, with me being black and all, allow me to weigh in on this. People seem to lump all blacks into the same socio-economic category. Wrong . Just like white people have poor, middle class (if we can still call it that) and wealthy classes, so do black people. There is no ''black community'' where we all live and plot to rob everyone else and kill each other. Those jacked up stats don't mean squat to me. People of any color that lives in a community where poverty is prevalent are bound to come into contact with crime, be it victim or perpetrator. Happens in trailer parks across America, just like the '.hood'. There are people in these forums that don't like black people simply because they're black and those stats only reinforce their bigotry and they use those stats to demonize ALL black people
How do we get the blacks AND the whites out of poverty? Million dollar question. Sometimes I think people who have come from generations of poverty just can't see past it - even if you try to help them. I don't know what the answer is. I do know it will involve lots of time and multiple generations to try to affect any change.
Originally posted by lakesidepark
reply to post by kaylaluv
That problem does need to be discussed. But not in this post.
The OP premise is that a commentator of MSNBC sucessfully countered an arguement of the commentator of FOX, and presnets an argument that only shows the lack of fact comprehension of the commentator of MSNBC.
Since then there has been a lot of deflection to take this post far away from the discussion of the problem being pointed out by O'Reilly, and NO discussion of whether this problem is real.
Originally posted by works4dhs
if poverty causes violence, the Appalachians and Ozarks would be war zones.
O'Reilly's main points stand; black girls have babies out of wedlock, and black boys leave school and get involved with gangs and drugs. this leads to poverty, and is in no way the fault of whites.
millions of African-Americans do stay in school, work and succeed, giving lie to the outside-causes-of-failure arguments.
between this poverty debate and events like the Trayvon trial, I really worry there's going to be a white backlash soon, and that could be ugly. I think this whole generation of whites has bent over backwards to accomodate blacks, and the whites feel that their efforts are being unappreciated and wasted.
it's getting harder and harder for politicians to demand financial and professional sacrifices from whites that are barely making ends meet.