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Originally posted by Realtruth
reply to post by xuenchen
Wonderful
Maybe now people will pay attention, if the part of the government that is enforcing Obamacare doesn't want it that speak volumes, and is hypocritical as well.
Originally posted by greydaze
Oh look another Circle jerk S&F fest...Herp derp..
The union leaders are providing members with a form letter to send to the congressmen that says “I am very concerned about legislation that has been introduced by Congressman Dave Camp to push federal employees out of the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program and into the insurance exchanges established under the Affordable Care Act.”
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by BritofTexas
So, why shouldn't the IRS have to be in the same boat as the rest of the "Little people"?
Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by BritofTexas
You could on to something.
The 'Dave Camp' 'proposals' are probably just 'eye-openers' for the 'select few' to see.
Maybe it's like 'a dose of their own medicine' so to speak.
But the Unions involved are sure all in a big fluff over the very thought !!
Wonder why ?
Many say the Federal insurance plans are better.
If so, why not use THAT as the model instead of the PPACA in the first place ?
Why didn't the Unions push for the Fed plan for all citizens ?
Or better yet, just let 'supply and demand' drive the insurance markets ?
Good clean business models don't need 'laws' to create markets.
Hmmm.
ETA; add GOP's Dave Camp: Why Not Put All Federal Employees Onto Obamacare's Exchanges?
Scenario 2: You have employer coverage.
If you already have coverage through work, then the odds are much better that it's of high-enough quality to avoid any major changes. A study last year found that almost two-thirds of employees who had group coverage at work had policies that would cover 80% or more of their health-care costs, compared with just 2% of individual health-insurance policies. Under Obamacare, adequate insurance need cover only 60% of allowed medical expenses to avoid penalties, which has spurred many small and mid-sized employers to look at high-deductible health plans with fairly high upfront deductibles and lower premiums. According to a Kaiser Family Foundation survey, almost a quarter of those covered by employers with fewer than 200 employees had HDHPs, compared with 17% at larger employers. Such moves will probably continue, as both employees and employers seek to reduce their premium costs.
The bigger potential impact on employees could come from employers that take more dramatic steps to avoid providing insurance at all. Darden Restaurants is one of many restaurant chains that has looked at increasing the number of part-time employees they hire to avoid the 30-hour-a-week threshold that triggers Obamacare insurance requirements. Theater operator Regal Entertainment reduced hours for many of its hourly employees back in April, citing the need to comply with the health-care law. Yet convenience-store operator Cumberland Gulf Group has said it plans to convert 1,500 of its employees to full-time status and provide health-insurance benefits in an attempt to attract higher-quality workers.
Net-net, until this give-and-take in the labor market gets resolved, both current employees and new hires will face massive uncertainty in their health-care costs. Moreover, now that the Obama administration has delayed employer penalties until 2015, workers probably have another year to wait before they'll know what happens on the employer front.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by BritofTexas
Um, no. No they are not.
They have a tax payer funded union pushing for them to not have to be in the mix with everyone else.
As for the rest of Govt? You are just being dishonest now.
There is no push for elected officials to be put into the same insurance situation as the rest of the people.
National Treasury Employees Union officials are urging members to write their congressional representatives in opposition to receiving coverage through President Obama’s health care law.
The union leaders are providing members with a form letter to send to the congressmen that says “I am very concerned about legislation that has been introduced by Congressman Dave Camp to push federal employees out of the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program and into the insurance exchanges established under the Affordable Care Act.”