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You take America For Granted

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IBM

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 12:52 AM
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This message is directed to all those who claim to leave the US because Bush was elected. I believe it is my opinion that you take your country for granted. Many would die to have a place such as America, and many have died for America. There are so many hard working Americans who have provided you with a better America, yet you fail to realize this. How many times have you driven on the road and thought about all those construction workers who labored to built America's 3 milliion+ miles of highways and roads? And you are planning to leave the US, what a shame I must say, it is a slap in the face to those who built a home for you. Go if you must because I sure as hell wont miss you.




posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:01 AM
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We have a thread about this already.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


IBM

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:03 AM
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No, that is just for leaving. I want to get more in depth information here. What I am claiming here is that those deserters(sorry for harsh words) take America for granted. If they take it for granted, I dont know, do they deserve it? I need some rebuttal against my claim. What do you think.

[edit on 10-11-2004 by IBM]



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:04 AM
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Yeah, think of all those teens who slaved over a hot stove to make your burgers. Are you just going to abandon them? What about that guy who salts your peanuts at a good ol' ball game? How can you just leave him? Wait, think of the poor girl in Taiwan who made your sneakers, how is she going to support her parents and 5 siblings without your consumption? And you are just going to leave her??

Ever occur to you that they built the roads...so they could get paid? We can romanticise any job if we want. Nice sentiment, pretty poorly drawn on though.


IBM

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by cargo
Yeah, think of all those teens who slaved over a hot stove to make your burgers. Are you just going to abandon them? What about that guy who salts your peanuts at a good ol' ball game? How can you just leave him? Wait, think of the poor girl in Taiwan who made your sneakers, how is she going to support her parents and 5 siblings without your consumption? And you are just going to leave her??

Ever occur to you that they built the roads...so they could get paid? We can romanticise any job if we want. Nice sentiment, pretty poorly drawn on though.


If you must know the US highways system was originally made for the military, but then civilains were allowed to use it eventually.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:13 AM
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Oh I see. So all those construction workers built the roads for no pay, so that the military could get about. Thinking of nothing more than serving the motherland. да товарищ.


IBM

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by cargo
Oh I see. So all those construction workers built the roads for no pay, so that the military could get about. Thinking of nothing more than serving the motherland. .


Yea, so next time you drive on the road thank those who built it, with or without pay. It is hard work to make a better America for you, which you take for granted. How would you like it if it was privately owned? You would have to pay a toll every time u pulled out of your drivway.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:18 AM
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Ever heard of taxes?

Plus, I'm not American.


IBM

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by cargo
Ever heard of taxes?

Plus, I'm not American.


Yes the taxes paid for the roads and it has provided US with ameniteis that we take for granted. And those that are leaving, will certainly miss them Ha. Imagine the founding fathers of the US if they hear the lame excuses for leaving the US.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:26 AM
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Of course. Where else in the world can you enjoy such wonders of modern American technological genius as ROADS!



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by IBM
Yea, so next time you drive on the road thank those who built it, with or without pay. It is hard work to make a better America for you, which you take for granted. How would you like it if it was privately owned? You would have to pay a toll every time u pulled out of your drivway.


So scaring people with an example of the stated ownership and privitization efforts of the free market ruling party is your enticement to stay? And pointing out the most successful elements of America are all forms of socialism (like public roads) is... what again now?



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:45 AM
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A little clue IBM, other countries have roads too!
They are a technological advance that has swept the world.

Wave that flag and make that sales pitch.

Sorry to tell you, but i have marketing immunity.
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posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 01:49 AM
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Plus, criticizing everyone for not sharing your point of view is an excellent way to win people over. Keep it up, and enjoy the success.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 02:53 AM
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In Back to the Future Part II the movie begins with the above quotation.

There is nothing inherently good about roads, when we get those "Jetson cars." But perhaps they will have some utility in the future.

Apparently the gist of the initial argument is to consider people who leave the United States as "deserters?" That implies you are obligated, even a slave rather than free.

The point of all this is that wherever real United States people will go, as themselves, not indoctrinated unfree robots, Freedom will follow.

The reason why people are considering leaving is because they see the writing on the wall, or how it was written. Face it, the Patriot Act and the new American KGB called Homeland Security looks anything but the authentic America. Our traditional values of freedom are eroding with every messy law the controlled legislatures and congress appear to bring forth. There is a disconnect from the people and a very real notion of class warfare waged from above on the common good. America is not about this kind of so called "security," it is about freedom, taking your own chances and risks. The actual risk of terrorism iself is very very low, and in fact zero Many people already know or can prove in court 911 was planned and executed by either the USG or the Shadow USG either by omission or commission. Commission is a high probability, but not atypical of cuthoat mentalities doing balance sheets on the next quarterly statement. Let me see, "a kind of Vegas style demolition, doing the Trade Center for maximum Pearl Harbor effect." WAR dollars cascade in perpetuity. Oh a couple of billion for multiple trillions of profit!

So can you see why Americans want to leave the United States? These monsters want to pull another phony attack, and draft you into their perpetual depleted uranium wars. You want to stay here under those possible conditions?

This is no comparison to "Hitler," this is a possible evil far worse into the future.

I won't give up yet, but I will consider every contingency plan to get out of this country when the signs of the times merit such a thing. You can keep your "roads."

[edit on 10-11-2004 by SkipShipman]



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 03:04 AM
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A little clue IBM, other countries have roads too!
They are a technological advance that has swept the world.

Wave that flag and make that sales pitch.

Sorry to tell you, but i have marketing immunity.
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lol maybe he hasnt been informed of this yet


man, personally i would take the Autobahn anyday over the crappy, conjested, pot-hole riddin u.s. highway

(bas***d pot-holes warped my rims, ill get you!!!)

[edit on 10-11-2004 by Franki]



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 05:54 AM
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I dont want to start a flame war, but from my perspective IMB, the people in power are taking America for granted, go do some research on the neo-conservitive political ideology.

From my perspective, you respect the constitution, live and make laws by it...or you can get out, you have allready lost your US citizenship the moment you decide to change or disagree with it.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 06:05 AM
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For those that built the rodes and built my home? It's not like those construction workers were slaves or something, they got paid to do their jobs. What ignorant statements you just made.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 06:17 AM
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Its very telling that these folks who want to leave America are fleeing to Canada. Why not Mexico? How about Iran, since the Middle East is just a peaceful paradise compared to America eh? Too extreme? How about North Korea? They could help lead a peaceful revolution against that poor misguided dictator, just teach those folks how to vote and form committeesuntil they put them in a slave camp (or just shoot them in the back of the head).

I guess my point here is why are they leaving for Canada when they could be moving to a poorer country and help establish the things they are so passionate about. Oh, yeah, they cant bitch about the government in most of those countries and they know as well as I living in those countries is not fun at all.

Greedy, selfish, self-absorbed.good riddance to em!

Oh...and one less DNC vote in 2 years...even better to be rid of em!



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 06:44 AM
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Any disenchanted Americans are welcome to pursue Australia as their new home. I'm serious. Our military commitments to US wars are currently token gestures to secure deals and bolster favours in return. In reality we are a large country surrounded by a huge moat called the pacific/indian oceans. Pretty safe overall.

See neo-cons? We arn't anti-American at all. Hell, we generally tolerate moderates from both sides. We are just anti-you.



posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 06:57 AM
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I once met a woman who had just been thrown out on the street by her husband. She had nothing but the clothes on her back. I feed her, clothed her, gave her some spending money, and then handed her the keys to my car, a new chevy Prizim. I told her it was hers so she could find a job. She threw the keys back at me and said "I don't want the peice of Sh@@" and I don't want a job, I've got you to support me now. Typical American Woman. Typical Spoiled American Period.



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