How 'They' Hide in the Open- Inversion and Deception

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posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 09:40 AM
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This was called Orwellian doublespeak in a recent thread. I have noted the dynamic to which you refer.
It seems a very deliberate method, to speak precisely the opposite of true intentions.
Now that I consider it, perhaps for this dark magic to work, this strange and complete inversion is necessary. Small evil men deceive with half truths and veiled lies. Forever they will struggle against one another in these grey areas.
But the great and powerful evil men are working with absolute black and white will on a global scale.
It is like they are exploiting something about the mass consciousness. When people are deceived lightly, they become wary. But when presented an absolutely opposite story to the truth, somehow they don't know what to think, or blindly believe.

Anyway, another such tactic appears to be accusing an entity over which they desire power, of the precise crimes they are committing or wish to commit.
Like this:
"They hate our freedoms" - we hate your freedoms
"they have weapons of mass destruction"

from those with the greatest stockpiles in the world.

People terrorizing the world literally, with the stated purpose of fighting terrorists!




posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 11:00 AM
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Well I found this on the GOP web site. They had to go out of their way to shoot the flag with the stars in that position or they have a flag made with the stars inverted. Either way, it fits the premise of the thread. Quite odd.




posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 12:08 PM
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I would just like to remind symbolism skeptics that...

Maybe YOU don't believe in symbolism, but THEY do.



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
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Actually it's an ancient Egyptian system of occult ritual.

The "Goat of Mendes" is from the city of Mendes/Djedet.


Mendes (Μένδης), the Greek name of the Ancient Egyptian city of Djedet, also known in Ancient Egypt as Per-Banebdjedet ("The Domain of the Ram Lord of Djedet") and Anpet, is known today as Tell El-Ruba



Banebdjedet (Banebdjed) was an Ancient Egyptian ram god with a cult centre at Mendes. Khnum was the equivalent god in Upper Egypt. His wife was the goddess Hatmehit ("Foremost of the Fishes") who was perhaps the original deity of Mendes.[2] Their offspring was "Horus the Child" and they formed the so called "Mendesian Triad".[3]



The words for "ram" and "soul" sounded the same in Egyptian so ram deities were at times regarded as appearances of other gods.[2] Typically Banebdjedet was depicted with four rams' heads to represent the four Ba's of the sun god. He may also be linked to the first four gods to rule over Egypt (Osiris, Geb, Shu and Ra-Atum), with large granite shrines to each in the Mendes sanctuary.[2]


Banebdjedet
Khnum
Book of the Heavenly Cow

The Egyptians called the "magic" they practiced "Heka", which is also the deistic personification of magic.
Heka wiki


thanks Muzzle

see how actual both you and Wonderer are :

google doodle of today 25 july
[sorry cant embed now]


i.telegraph.co.uk...

original Heka magick glyph:

daily.kemet.org...

..the Ritual here, is that millions of souls are seeing this [ stylized] Heka in todays doodle,
indifferent if they are aware of it,
thereby adding energy to this Spelled hologram



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 01:29 PM
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Here's the Google Doodle for July 25th. Maybe someone can decipher it. Doesn't look innocent IMO.




posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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@OP

Alice Cooper is going to destroy the world!!!
Just before Jello Biafra kills your children.
Sarcasm intended.

I do not doubt that nefarious groups sometimes co-opt this imagery (I have seen as much), but
we need to be clear, and not espouse a lot of hyperbole and misinformation regarding what these things are.
The "illuminati" have co-opted a variety of symbols for their own use, as many have done before them. Their preferred symbols seem to be pentagrams (doesn't matter your frame of directional reference), owls, and the singular eye.

Pentagrams predate Christianity altogether. Baphomet was originally seen in writing in 1098, some nearly 900 years before it was co-opted by Anton Lavey, and was claimed by the Inquisition to be an idol reference to Mohammed as they tortured the Templars. Satanism? Not so much. Historical perspective would give weight to the word baphomet being a reference to hidden regard for Islamic principles. Later, in the 19th century, Eliphas Levi would depict the visual symbol we see today, and that was heavily based upon jewish mysticism.

I don't quote from wikipedia often, but this is simple enough.


The goat on the frontispiece carries the sign of the pentagram on the forehead, with one point at the top, a symbol of light, his two hands forming the sign of occultism, the one pointing up to the white moon of Chesed, the other pointing down to the black one of Geburah. This sign expresses the perfect harmony of mercy with justice. His one arm is female, the other male like the ones of the androgyne of Khunrath, the attributes of which we had to unite with those of our goat because he is one and the same symbol. The flame of intelligence shining between his horns is the magic light of the universal balance, the image of the soul elevated above matter, as the flame, whilst being tied to matter, shines above it. The beast's head expresses the horror of the sinner, whose materially acting, solely responsible part has to bear the punishment exclusively; because the soul is insensitive according to its nature and can only suffer when it materializes. The rod standing instead of genitals symbolizes eternal life, the body covered with scales the water, the semi-circle above it the atmosphere, the feathers following above the volatile. Humanity is represented by the two breasts and the androgyne arms of this sphinx of the occult sciences.
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posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Bilky
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Hate to break it to you but the occult use of that symbol predates the us military by thousands of years. it has precedent.


Regardless, when you have a political logo embellishing a theme that is of a political nature (flag upside down), Occam's Razor rather applies. I'm not arguing that there isn't a subliminal effect to it. There definitely is. However, it's really unlikely to be a reference to the occult when it is a sign of dire distress to life or property. Considering the political antics going on over the last 13 years, I would say that they saw the writing on the wall.



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteAlice

Originally posted by Bilky
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Hate to break it to you but the occult use of that symbol predates the us military by thousands of years. it has precedent.


Regardless, when you have a political logo embellishing a theme that is of a political nature (flag upside down), Occam's Razor rather applies. I'm not arguing that there isn't a subliminal effect to it. There definitely is. However, it's really unlikely to be a reference to the occult when it is a sign of dire distress to life or property. Considering the political antics going on over the last 13 years, I would say that they saw the writing on the wall.


Not occult?










posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 04:53 PM
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Your view is the one I would explore first: the upside down stars signalling grave danger/distress. Taken politically and nationally, rather than occultly, it could also be a statement of extreme disrespect for the flag, country and country persons.

My investigations have yielded a statement that the patent for this star orientation was applied for in 1993. That was during the Hale-Bopp years. Have yet to verify this. If true, I would lean even more strongly toward a distress signal.



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012
it now represents the Sigil of Baphomet as associated with Satanism.


...AND THE ENTIRE REST OF YOUR POST WENT OUT THE WINDOW. Anybody who knows anything about Baphomet would stop reading right there, garbage.
edit on 25-7-2013 by garbageface because: FIXED A MISTAKEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Bilk22
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Here's the Google Doodle for July 25th. Maybe someone can decipher it. Doesn't look innocent IMO.



It's clearly Google showing appreciation for the recent news about the breakthrough on curing blindness with a virus injection.

now.msn.com...



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 12:31 AM
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At one of Hillary Clinton's events, the stars were positioned the same way. This is really strange. Things like this are not done by accident.



Also, what in the world does this new GOP logo mean? The elephant is in the middle of the letters GOP and only 2 stars are showing. The image can be found here: New GOP Logo
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posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 03:05 AM
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Nailed it - now if we can reach a few more million people and teach them that everything they hear on the MSM is deception, then reality might have some chance of taking hold.

While a number of people are becoming more aware of geopolitical deceptions, many are still unaware of some other forms of total deception that are equally vital.

Modern law for example is an example of a total deception, where the stated purpose is creation of justice, and the real purpose is the exact opposite.

Real law originates from the universe itself - law and justice for men are actually an expression of the great universal law of equilibrium.

Justice is a state of equilibrium, and interactions between human beings that disturb the state of equilibrium can be identified as unlawful, acts of injustice.

If we distill human interactions into the simplest of components, we can broadly divide them into consensual and non consensual. Consent is a requirement for equilibrium - without consent there is an unbalanced vector - a desire (vector) one one side, but no reciprocating desire on the other side of the equation.

Therefore infringement of consent disturbs the equilibrium - due to the vectors of desire being unbalanced.

If the universal law of equilibrium applies to human interactions, it might be most simply stated as follows;


Whosoever infringes the property of another human being without their consent commits an unlawful act.


If we define property as all things contingent upon the human being; their body, mind, speech, public character, products of labor, ability to do labor and so on - then we can see that this covers everything, including libel, assault, theft and so on.

When we define consent as occurring only in the absence of coercion and deceit, then we expose fraud, intimidation and so on as crimes. An attempt to create an illusion of consent, is a crime.

This single law covers everything, there is no need for any other law - all we need to do is decide if someones property was infringed, if true consent exists and we can identify any crime.

Modern law is an attempt to control, it is created with increasing complexity to disenfranchise the common people from one of the most important requirements for freedom, a means to directly create a state of justice.

Additionally, sentencing is the most important aspect of justice and this sentencing should be done by the common people - that is, juries should be deciding what punishment should be attributed to a crime.

Removing the power of law and redress from the people makes them powerless - and no doubt adds to a growing sense of resignation and apathy.

The controllers want people resigned, discouraged, apathetic and powerless - and modern law serves their purpose very well, and it certainly does not serve the average human being.



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 03:37 AM
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Have you ever seen those clips on the news where the President or the Prime Minister "give a talk on the economy" or whatever?

You see him talking to a crowd of people in suits, and you get the impression that he's giving a talk to experts in the field, so when they all applaud at the end it gives the impression that these experts agree.

Well I got invited to a speech by David Cameron a couple of months ago, he was giving it locally and it was small business owners who got invited.

There were people showing up in their little white vans, trucks, etc, they were just ordinary people like you and me.

Cameron turned up (eventually), gave his speech, and then left, and it was shown later on the news, "The PM's speech on the economy."

Thing is that no one there knows anything about the economy, all it was really was a chance for the Prime Minister to deliver some political point or spin some political angle on TV and to make it look to the public who were watching that he'd given some key note speech to some economic bigwigs.

But he hadn't at all, it was just a one way diatribe to get across what he wanted everyone to think.

It's all a big scam.



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 05:14 AM
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Originally posted by intrptr
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Hey Wonderer2012, so glad to see you here. Good work. Love the first video where we begin bombing Libya back to the stone age in order to (ahem), protect them... are we that friggin' stupid to buy that line?

Have always been concerned abut the five pointed stars that adorn our every flag and talisman. Which ever way they point they represent the conjuring symbol that demons are summoned from and sent to do evil in the world.

The pentagon would fit nicely in the center of that symbol. That place is after all where the orders for war are issued to destroy nations.


Thanks for the support


Here's a little update on Libya, how quick we are to forget-

Life in Libya after the Revolution



RT: Just two years ago, the UK lobbied for military intervention in Libya. Was that a good decision?


MA: I think it was a terrible decision. I’m afraid if Colonel Gaddafi had suppressed the opposition in March 2011, possibly hundreds of people would have died. Perhaps as many as 30,000 have died since, and the country is in a deep state of disorder and uncertainty. Life for most Libyans is worse than it was under Colonel Gaddafi. And of course Gaddafi’s regime was supposed by the Western countries to be the bad regime. Anything must be better, we were told. But now we see that it’s not so clear.



To those replies about the pentagram, yes there are many uses and meanings for the pentagram.

But once the pentagram is purposely inversed, its meaning is narrowed down quite quickly-

Pentagram article

Satanism-



Satanists use a pentagram with two points up, often inscribed in a double circle, with the head of a goat inside the pentagram. This is referred to as the Sigil of Baphomet. They use it much the same way as the Pythagoreans, as Tartaros literally translates from Greek as a "Pit" or "Void" in Christian terminology (the word is used as such in the Bible, referring to the place where the fallen angels are fettered). The Pythagorean Greek letters are most often replaced by the Hebrew letters לויתן forming the name Leviathan. Less esoteric LaVeyan Satanists use it as a sign of rebellion or religious identification, the three downward points symbolising rejection of Trinity


European Occultism-



By the mid-19th century a further distinction had developed amongst occultists regarding the pentagram's orientation. With a single point upwards it depicted spirit presiding over the four elements of matter, and was essentially "good". However, the influential writer Eliphas Levi called it evil whenever the symbol appeared the other way up.

"A reversed pentagram, with two points projecting upwards, is a symbol of evil and attracts sinister forces because it overturns the proper order of things and demonstrates the triumph of matter over spirit. It is the goat of lust attacking the heavens with its horns, a sign execrated by initiates."

"The flaming star, which, when turned upside down, is the hierolgyphic [sic] sign of the goat of Black Magic, whose head may be drawn in the star, the two horns at the top, the ears to the right and left, the beard at the bottom. It is the sign of antagonism and fatality. It is the goat of lust attacking the heavens with its horns."

"Let us keep the figure of the Five-pointed Star always upright, with the topmost triangle pointing to heaven, for it is the seat of wisdom, and if the figure is reversed, perversion and evil will be the result."



Order of the Eastern Star-



The Order of the Eastern Star, an organization associated with Freemasonry, has employed a point-down pentagram as its symbol, with the five isosceles triangles of the points colored red, blue, yellow, white and green.


I highly doubt the GOP changed its logo in 2000 (one year before the destruction of order after 9/11) because of an affiliation with the Order of the Eastern Star.

I'm much more inclined (given the levels of manipulation and evil carried out by these people since 9/11) to believe the inversion of the stars was to reflect the chaos and perversion we have seen in the years since, starting with 9/11 and onwards. Bush after all, is a member of the Skull and Bones- ask yourself, what would be that secret societie's take on the inverted pentagram?



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 05:36 AM
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The quote you have given is about the pentagram the 'right' way up


The example in the OP is about the inverted pentagram, and how this is (no matter your interpretation), a negative symbol, an inversion of order, matter over spirit, evil etc.

You quoted Eliphas Lévi when it was his quote I used in the OP-

Inverted pentagram



"A reversed pentagram, with two points projecting upwards, is a symbol of evil and attracts sinister forces because it overturns the proper order of things and demonstrates the triumph of matter over spirit. It is the goat of lust attacking the heavens with its horns, a sign execrated by initiates."

"The flaming star, which, when turned upside down, is the hierolgyphic [sic] sign of the goat of Black Magic, whose head may be drawn in the star, the two horns at the top, the ears to the right and left, the beard at the bottom. It is the sign of antagonism and fatality. It is the goat of lust attacking the heavens with its horns."

"Let us keep the figure of the Five-pointed Star always upright, with the topmost triangle pointing to heaven, for it is the seat of wisdom, and if the figure is reversed, perversion and evil will be the result."



I don't think that could be any clearer!

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posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 10:15 AM
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Anyway, another such tactic appears to be accusing an entity over which they desire power, of the precise crimes they are committing or wish to commit.
Like this:
"They hate our freedoms" - we hate your freedoms
"they have weapons of mass destruction"

from those with the greatest stockpiles in the world.

People terrorizing the world literally, with the stated purpose of fighting terrorists!

That is the principle by which they spread their hate. By accusing their "enemies" of the very thing they themselves are doing.

A police office, beating a downed person with a night stick shouts "Stop resisting, stop resisting!" with every blow.

What you just said is worth a thread. But judging by the stars it received, will fall on deaf ears. Those narrow minds are too busy blaming and punishing the world for their own actions to hear it. I enjoyed hearing it.



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 10:28 AM
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Hey Wonderer, thanks for the reply. The link to pentagrams was interesting. Except for the satanist reference to the "fettered angels" there was no reference to the Pentagram being used to conjure evil spirits and send them on dark missions to afflict people or nations. That is the meaning I was digging at.

Take notice the targets of the planes on 911. The "two horns" (twin towers) and the Pentagon, (the pit or void)...



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 10:39 AM
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Nailed it - now if we can reach a few more million people and teach them that everything they hear on the MSM is deception, then reality might have some chance of taking hold.

Good luck with that. You know what America thinks of a "conspiracy" and a "theory". Especially when you put those two words together.

Like "gun - violence" and "gun - crime". They are too deeply brainwashed by the real mainstream to do anything but snicker and return to the sports channel.



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 10:50 AM
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You see stars pointing down, I see them turned to the left slightly.

The observer sees what they want.




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