Officials Destroy Evidence of Christine O'Donnell Tax Snooping

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posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 09:10 AM
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Surprise, Surprise!....It seems that evidence of another political scandal has mysteriously gone missing.
It seems that this corrupt administration...so obsessed with collecting information and keeping records on EVERYONE...is not above conveniently 'losing' records which ultimately may be used against THEM.

On second thought...no surprise here...move along...just another innocent bureaucratic mishap.



Records of Christine O’Donnell tax snooping disappear




Delaware state officials have told Congress that they likely destroyed the computer records that would show when and how often they accessed Christine O'Donnell’s personal tax records and acknowledged that a newspaper article was used as the sole justification for snooping into the former GOP Senate candidate’s tax history.

The revelations to Sen. Chuck Grassley’s office came Tuesday as the Treasury Department’s inspector general for tax administration, the government’s chief watchdog for the Internal Revenue Service, formally reopened its investigation into the matter by re-interviewing Ms. O'Donnell.

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“It is an active investigation now,” Ms. O’Donnell told The Washington Times after meeting with the same Treasury agent who first informed her in January that her tax records were improperly accessed. She declined to be more specific about what the agent questioned her about in Tuesday’s session.

But Mr. Grassley, an Iowa Republican who serves on the Judiciary and Finance committees, said he was concerned by the information Delaware state officials shared with his investigators. Specifically, Mr. Grassley’s staff was told that a Delaware state investigator asked for and received permission from his boss on a Saturday to access Ms. O'Donnell’s tax records based on a local newspaper article about a civil lien.
The lien, it turned, out was issued erroneously.

Source:
www.washingtontimes.com...

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posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 10:22 AM
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I'm thinking an investigation into obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, hindering prosecution etc etc is warranted..
edit on 24-7-2013 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 10:36 AM
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I would not doubt they know exactly where those documents are, most likely in some staffers drawer...

This appears to be a clear case of obstruction that they have hidden and dragged out over years to now claim "oh, well that happened two years ago, so we dont have the records now."

Legitimate? I think not..



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 10:48 AM
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This crap is just going to AVALANCHE..

now that the REDCOATS (cops/feds/badges) are ONLY worried about their families and pensions, only we the insignificant are bound by rules.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by HanzHenry
This crap is just going to AVALANCHE..

now that the REDCOATS (cops/feds/badges) are ONLY worried about their families and pensions, only we the insignificant are bound by rules.


How do you get cops/feds/badges out of a state agency destroying records?

Secondly the function of law enforcement is not to protect the individual, its to protect society.

When you delegate to various groups to safeguard YOUR rights, then you will reap what you sow...

GET INVOLVED



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by IAMTAT
Surprise, Surprise!....It seems that evidence of another political scandal has mysteriously gone missing.
It seems that this corrupt administration...so obsessed with collecting information and keeping records on EVERYONE...is not above conveniently 'losing' records which ultimately may be used against THEM.

On second thought...no surprise here...move along...just another innocent bureaucratic mishap.


Come on! Did you even read your source article? You do realize that it was "Delaware State Officials" who both, accessed Christine O'Donnell's tax records and... "likely destroyed the computer records that would show when and how often" they did it, don't you?




Delaware state officials have told Congress that they likely destroyed the computer records that would show when and how often they accessed Christine O'Donnell’s personal tax records and acknowledged that a newspaper article was used as the sole justification for snooping into the former GOP Senate candidate’s tax history.


So, which corrupt administration are you so fed up with? Could it be this one?

www.washingtontimes.com...


The access was believed to have occurred in March 2010, the same month Ms. O'Donnell formally launched her Senate campaign that shocked the Delaware establishment by defeating Republican favorite Michael Castle in the primary election.


As it turns out, the only ones who "MAY" have a record of the events is the IRS but you're too busy being fed up with this "corrupt administration" to even notice.



“So far, it appears the department destroys the access records after a short amount of time,” Mr. Grassley said. “That’s puzzling. Unless the IRS has a back-up, and I hope the IRS does, there’s no way to know how and when Delaware state employees accessed Christine O'Donnell’s federal tax records.”


Unless you're just trolling, (at the very least) you should edit the title of your thread to read; "Delaware State Officials Destroy Evidence...."



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 01:03 PM
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This is absolutely a corrupt administration...but go ahead and defend this administration if you like...regardless how silly it may seem at this point.

The fact remains that this is another (of many) case of political targeting, directly assisted by the IRS...where nobody gets punished and, in this case, evidence is conveniently destroyed or lost.

Anyone championing the IRS for 'doing the right thing' these days or assuming that they (IRS), themselves are champions of truth and justice...and politically independent of the Obama administration is just whistling in the wind.

But who knows...maybe we'll all be surprised to find that the IRS still actually has and will produce (under pressure) copies of the records specifically showing who at the IRS and within the government were involved in this specific case of political targeting.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 01:13 PM
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Come on! Did you even read your source article? You do realize that it was "Delaware State Officials" who both, accessed Christine O'Donnell's tax records and... "likely destroyed the computer records that would show when and how often" they did it, don't you?




We all know that the White House and the Democrat operatives monitor all elections that they view as a threat to them.

Christine O'Donnell (R) was a major threat at the time.

The IRS was way over their heads with the targeting that has been proven to have happened.

Of course they use 'lower' authorities to get to their targets. It makes it easier to cover up the sources.

They have their moles and infiltrators.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by IAMTAT
Surprise, Surprise!....It seems that evidence of another political scandal has mysteriously gone missing.
It seems that this corrupt administration...so obsessed with collecting information and keeping records on EVERYONE...is not above conveniently 'losing' records which ultimately may be used against THEM.

On second thought...no surprise here...move along...just another innocent bureaucratic mishap.



Records of Christine O’Donnell tax snooping disappear




Delaware state officials have told Congress that they likely destroyed the computer records that would show when and how often they accessed Christine O'Donnell’s personal tax records and acknowledged that a newspaper article was used as the sole justification for snooping into the former GOP Senate candidate’s tax history.

The revelations to Sen. Chuck Grassley’s office came Tuesday as the Treasury Department’s inspector general for tax administration, the government’s chief watchdog for the Internal Revenue Service, formally reopened its investigation into the matter by re-interviewing Ms. O'Donnell.

www.washingtontimes.com... Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter




“It is an active investigation now,” Ms. O’Donnell told The Washington Times after meeting with the same Treasury agent who first informed her in January that her tax records were improperly accessed. She declined to be more specific about what the agent questioned her about in Tuesday’s session.

But Mr. Grassley, an Iowa Republican who serves on the Judiciary and Finance committees, said he was concerned by the information Delaware state officials shared with his investigators. Specifically, Mr. Grassley’s staff was told that a Delaware state investigator asked for and received permission from his boss on a Saturday to access Ms. O'Donnell’s tax records based on a local newspaper article about a civil lien.
The lien, it turned, out was issued erroneously.

Source:
www.washingtontimes.com...

More:
nation.foxnews.com...
patdollard.com...
newsmilitary.com...


I was under the impression that the tax lien story in the paper was do to the leaked tax information this story seems to say that the tax information was looked at because of the story? Sounds fishy to me anyway you look at it.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
We all know that the White House and the Democrat operatives monitor all elections that they view as a threat to them.


Are you saying that the GOP and Republican operatives don't monitor those same elections?


Originally posted by xuenchen
Christine O'Donnell (R) was a major threat at the time.


A major threat to who specifically? According to the source article, it was the Republican establishment in Delaware that was so upset with the fact that she beat out their candidate. Remember, she was a Tea Party candidate and hardly a threat to the Democratic party at all.


Originally posted by xuenchen
The IRS was way over their heads with the targeting that has been proven to have happened.


Other than the fact that Darrell Issa is a "blow hard," nothing has been proven yet, except for the fact that the actual IRS statutes covering 501(c)(4) organizations has been totally "re-defined" and distorted creating a loophole big enough to drive a bus through.


Originally posted by xuenchen
Of course they use 'lower' authorities to get to their targets. It makes it easier to cover up the sources.


According to the source article, the only thing that the IRS could possibly be guilty of in this particular case is supplying information to "Delaware State Officials." Now if that turns out to be illegal, then you may have something here.


Originally posted by xuenchen
They have their moles and infiltrators.


Yeah and the GOP has their trolls and conspiracy nuts too.

Sooner or later, you folks are going to have to realize that Obama is not responsible for everything you disagree with and/or deem to be scandalous. If anything, I'd have to borrow from the words of Michael Jackson and say that maybe you should look to the man in the mirror.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by IAMTAT
This is absolutely a corrupt administration...but go ahead and defend this administration if you like...regardless how silly it may seem at this point.


You have yet to show where this administration had anything at all to do with this event, so why should I feel pressured to defend them?

Don't you understand that no matter how much you hate Obama, he had nothing to do with this? Do you understand what "Delaware State Officials" means? Please!!! That would be like me blaming Obama for the fact that Rick Perry is attempting to shut down women's health clinics across Texas.


Originally posted by IAMTAT
The fact remains that this is another (of many) case of political targeting, directly assisted by the IRS...where nobody gets punished and, in this case, evidence is conveniently destroyed or lost.


And I repeat, "conveniently destroyed or lost" by "Delaware State Officials."


Originally posted by IAMTAT
Anyone championing the IRS for 'doing the right thing' these days or assuming that they (IRS), themselves are champions of truth and justice...and politically independent of the Obama administration is just whistling in the wind.

But who knows...maybe we'll all be surprised to find that the IRS still actually has and will produce (under pressure) copies of the records specifically showing who at the IRS and within the government were involved in this specific case of political targeting.


And until then..... We'll always have trolls like Darrell Issa and yourself going around attempting to make mountains out of ant turds.



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 07:28 AM
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So is am assuming you believe Christine is an agent of the administration in a conspiracy to retain a senate seat by nominated a bat#### crazy nominee for the GOP senate seat to ensure a democrat wins the seat. Then to cover up the notorious plan, the administration destroys the evidence. Hmm, you maybe giving people to much credit.



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by HanzHenry
This crap is just going to AVALANCHE..

now that the REDCOATS (cops/feds/badges) are ONLY worried about their families and pensions, only we the insignificant are bound by rules.


How do you get cops/feds/badges out of a state agency destroying records?

Secondly the function of law enforcement is not to protect the individual, its to protect society.

When you delegate to various groups to safeguard YOUR rights, then you will reap what you sow...

GET INVOLVED


for decades now, the true criminals have hidden behind police! when an angry populace tries to protest, redress grievances, petition govt.. WHO IS IT EXACTLY USING WEAPONS OF WAR?

WHO ENFORCES "FREE SPEECH ZONES"? only a true bag would do that

WHO WAS ARRESTED FOR DESTROYING THE DOCS? noone maybe?



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 11:01 AM
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Other than the fact that Darrell Issa is a "blow hard," nothing has been proven yet, except for the fact that the actual IRS statutes covering 501(c)(4) organizations has been totally "re-defined" and distorted creating a loophole big enough to drive a bus through.


So Darrell Issa is a "blow hard"?? Why is this?? Cuz the man is asking questions about possible illegal activity within the federal government?? How have the statutes for 501(c)(4) been "re-defined"? I know the left is great at changing the definition of things... Recent testimony has shown that the extra scrutiny that conservative organizations received possibly came from a presidential appointee within the IRS.




Don't you understand that no matter how much you hate Obama, he had nothing to do with this? Do you understand what "Delaware State Officials" means? Please!!! That would be like me blaming Obama for the fact that Rick Perry is attempting to shut down women's health clinics across Texas.


Yes, we all heard the preliminary reports from Jay Carney stating that the extra scrutiny came from "rogue officials in the Cincinnati office". But now that doesn't seem to be the case. And Perry is shutting down woman's clinics across Texas?!?!?! Lol, be careful, your partisanship is bleeding through. Please try to keep an open mind as these situations unfold. It seems that every time something new comes across the screen involving the federal government, this administration lies and obfuscates facts at every opportunity. If this didn't come from the democrats or republicans, so be it. But if it came from Obama himself, I would not be surprised in the least.




And until then..... We'll always have trolls like Darrell Issa and yourself going around attempting to make mountains out of ant turds.


Why can't anyone question what the facts are?? If this was an illegal attempt at gathering info on an elected official, wouldn't you like to know??
edit on 25-7-2013 by bmullini because: spelling



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 11:25 AM
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Darell Issa? really?

what do you know about him?

how about his brother? what they used to do together.


anything this man does should be highly suspect.



posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by bmullini

So Darrell Issa is a "blow hard"?? Why is this?? Cuz the man is asking questions about possible illegal activity within the federal government?? How have the statutes for 501(c)(4) been "re-defined"? I know the left is great at changing the definition of things... Recent testimony has shown that the extra scrutiny that conservative organizations received possibly came from a presidential appointee within the IRS.


Darrell Issa has yet to prove, (in any of his so called scandals) that any of his allegations are true. Not a single person has been prosecuted and/or charged in any crime resulting from Issa's investigations. Darrell Issa's witch hunts have proven, time and time again, to be nothing more than a huge waste of time and money and that's why I refer to him as a "Blow Hard."

With respect to 501(c)(4) statutes being re-defined, here is the actual statute; (Pay special notice to the use of the word "exclusively" in the actual statute as adopted by Congress.)

www.irs.gov...

The Statute
Statutory History
IRC 501(c)(4) provides for exemption of:
2Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare.
2Local associations of employees, the membership of which is limited to the employees of a designated person or persons in a particular municipality and the net earnings of which are devoted exclusively to charitable, educational, or recreational purposes.
The statutory terms disclose that IRC 501(c)(4) embraces two general classifications:
a. Social welfare organizations, and b. Local associations of employees.


And here is an article that explains how the statute was re-defined. Not by Congress, not by any elected officials, but by an IRS commissioner back in 1959. His definition of how the statute should be applied probably represents the beginning of the process in which "Big Money" interests took over american politics.

www.dailykos.com...#

As it turns out, the IRS employees should never have been put in the position of being tasked with determining how much political involvement was too much, because according to the actual statute passed by Congress, any political involvement is too much.


Originally posted by bmullini
Yes, we all heard the preliminary reports from Jay Carney stating that the extra scrutiny came from "rogue officials in the Cincinnati office". But now that doesn't seem to be the case. And Perry is shutting down woman's clinics across Texas?!?!?! Lol, be careful, your partisanship is bleeding through. Please try to keep an open mind as these situations unfold. It seems that every time something new comes across the screen involving the federal government, this administration lies and obfuscates facts at every opportunity. If this didn't come from the democrats or republicans, so be it. But if it came from Obama himself, I would not be surprised in the least.


Talk about partisan bleeding, Geez!!!! This Christine O'Donnell thing has absolutely nothing to do with the Cincinnati IRS office. As a matter of fact, it has nothing to do with the feds at all. It has to do with "Delaware State Officials" and their inability to produce records of their own conduct, not that of the IRS.

My whole point, which you are apparently unable to comprehend, is that Obama and the current administration had about as much to do with these lost Delaware state records as they did with Perry's decision to shut down abortion clinics across Texas.


Originally posted by bmullini
Why can't anyone question what the facts are?? If this was an illegal attempt at gathering info on an elected official, wouldn't you like to know??


I have no problem with anyone "questioning" the facts surrounding any given subject. It's when they begin making up the facts as they see fit that I start to have problems and in case you hadn't noticed, making up "facts" has become epidemic within the ranks of the GOP and their defenders.





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