Originally posted by nwtrucker
reply to post by NotAnAspie
I have no idea why I'm supposed to be impressed that someone can make soap out of animal fat. Even I know how to do that. You can buy lye to do it or
extract it from ash but that is a longer process which will not yield the best results. It's soap none the less. I also make my own laundry detergent
out of fels naptha to save money and make a more concentrated laundry detergent, it can also be done with homemade soap... so what?
I also know a few things about growing food... & that people around here think nothing can be grown in this acidic soil because they don't understand
that everything that grows around here needs to be tolerant to leeched out aluminum.
So what?.. That doesn't mean I have a crop... because I don't own farm land.
I live in a rural area and the fields that are around here... are mostly big agriculture endeavors and not open to the local farmers market... which
is actually kind of small.
You obviously don't understand what has been going on with agriculture in America. Yes, some have fought against it and try to maintain ways of
living off the land... and good for them. I totally encourage that, but it is the exception, not the rule.
You need to understand that in many places of the world, people have maintained this self sufficiency all along... never lost it, while America built
big corporate supermarket chains and went crazy with regulation. Now we have food items that are hardly even food anymore and to know a local farmer
is rare. Some try to plant gardens here and there but they could not sustain them for long and if a crisis hit, and people realized "HEY... We need
to grow some food!" They would still be starving before their crops came in.
Now if you don't like these facts being pointed out to you, then perhaps you shouldn't have come in here with such an attitude of insisting that the
Chinese cannot sustain themselves and are about to suffer a tragic national collapse, because they do have considerable resources in their land and
are in general, very resourceful people in practice.
It is true that a lot of food is grown in the US... a lot, but it is also highly controlled.
If the US had a collapse, we would have to retake land and machinery to get back agricultural control. I hope you are prepared for that because you
don't strike me as the type who can live off bean sprouts. As a matter of fact, no matter how you tout your traditional resourcefulness, I seriously
doubt you'd know what was edible for you on a walk through the woods.... unless you had a gun in your hand and saw a moving target. Good luck on not
collectively making wildlife extinct if the SHTF. Martial law would probably outlaw hunting at that point anyway.
It's not that America does not grow food... or does not have the ability to grow food. You missed the point entirely. It is that Americans are
detached from their own resources through corporate control. There is also considerable control in China but it is not all encompassing in China like
it is the states. There is a deliberate reason our government does this... and if you don't see that, well, I'm sorry for you.
There are a lot of things you don't seem to see- that the Iranian nuclear threat is a lie.
They probably already have a few & no one is going to be able to ultimately stop them from making more for themselves. This is about the fact that
decades ago, Iran took back control of their own oil out of the hands of the English & US oil companies. And they so obviously can't stand it because
it throws a wrench in their global resource control. Now they cannot control how much oil China & Russia can obtain because every time the East makes
a gain, more jump on board thinking big Eastern powers can protect them, which is what the propaganda you have submitted is all about. Cult of
personality swaying trust to the West NOT letting it go East.
I'm not concerned about who you claim to be or your credentials. Please know that they mean nothing to me and that what stands out most is your
intent on spreading what the MSM also spreads. I don't care who you are... all I know is that you don't sound very observant to me or are simply
waving that American pride around for whatever reason. I'm sorry that you do not desire to see this country do better and stop getting itself into
trouble... because the US military might is not very impressive considering they couldn't establish control in either Iraq or Afghanistan. Some
people just have to learn the hard way, I'm afraid... and I'm sorry that you feel the need to endanger your own fellow Americans by not feeling
inclined to stand up to this government and are going to let the status quo just tell you what to think. It may be comfortable for you now, so just
keep hoping it stays that despite all the US chest thumping going on