Originally posted by VoidHawk
I'm not big on world politics, but I liked your OP
What do you think this could lead to?
Also, how powerful is Irans military? I'm wondering why they havent just stomped all over them like they do anywhere else in the world.
Well, Iran *did* take back control of their oil by force. Iran isn't anything to play with in my opinion. This talk about them trying to make a
nuke... pffft. Maybe they are trying to make their own but if they really wanted one right now to use, they could probably get one very easily. They
probably already have them. Even without them, they would be tough to fight. They are nothing like other countries we've picked on. They have
advanced weapons and a strong devoted military. That is the reason we've been prepping for that and haven't pounced yet.
I think China is to the point where it's tired of this crap and the US economy is floundering, so what China gains from doing business with us would
naturally suffer from that. I think it must cross people's minds (and I'm not trying to say China will do this)....it has to cross leaders minds
that the US would benefit the world more if they controlled it. If the East controlled the West, a lot of global tensions would subside. Eastern
socialist countries would probably relax some of their hard line stances because imperialism is the entire reason they hold up that old guard. The
west spends money like it's toilet paper.... and it's to stay on top of the global economy. Remove this fact and efficiency would immediately be
scored. A lot of loopholes would be out of the way.
The West has pushed the East around for a long time, but some players in the East, rather than retaliate, employed a logistics strategy. That is why
you see Chinas market the way it is today. You always hear about cheap labor in China but a lot of the people over their are still proud of their
country and it's the people's republic of China by name for this reason. Their type of national pride expects to outsmart and outwork the West and
eventually get revenge for a shame that has been going on well over a century... concerning the infiltration of Western policies.
I'm sure they'd rather earn the rug out from under the West and they have been doing exactly that, but West has gotten used to getting away with
hardball. China can be tough inside its borders but has a gentle foreign policy... I think our leaders misread this because eventually, it will no
longer serve China to keep swinging at these hardballs.
They intended to build a strong country at a great cost to their own people and they've done exactly that. They have a lot of strong world partners.
The benefit of profiting off of American consumerism must be hurting right now.... so how much longer does it pay for them to sit back and take this?
That scale will tip and it will become easier to just affect Western policy whether the Western elite like it or not.
In other words, control what The West provides to the rest of the world.... for example, agriculture.
Asia has a lot of people to feed and a lot of influence in South and North American agriculture is a prize to say the least.... but our leaders know
this and are stubborn and that's why they control agriculture within our borders the way they do. It might be interesting to look at laws of
exporting food from the US and all the regulations imposed... might lead to some interesting revelations.
Maybe China will not do anything and disappoint Iran in struggling times... but if they do, it is because they have a huge dilemma to deal with and
are being forced by the West... I don't think they will just leave them high and dry.
Maybe they will find a way to keep doing business in a round about way.... thereby challenging the US declaration to do this.... See how long they can
tip toe around it.
It would be not unthinkable, imo, for China to figure out a way around this... but I can't think of how they would do this.
I just maintain that the US will not be able to do this forever. they have gotten complacent with their bossy position and one day, it will be
meaningless. I'm not sure when that line will be crossed but I'd say we can't be too far from it.
The east has been preparing for this ultimately. you don't prepare for something for ages and then just forget about it. Russia and China are pretty
devout in this.
Israel just bombed a Syrian port important to Russia and we've heard nothing else beside russia is now conducting the largest military exercise in
decades. The silence is eerie. the demeanor of chinas leaders concerning cutting back on certain government spending means that what was allocated
funds might now be allocated somewhere else like military endeavors. meanwhile Biden has just gone to India to suck up to it's leaders because it
wants someone out of the largest world populations in the east to not plot against them and are looking for that surety.
I think it's naive.