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Judge Orders $1 Million Returned to Exotic Dancer

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posted on Jul, 23 2013 @ 11:22 PM
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Nice to see all the "holier than thou" moralist passing judgement on an Exotic Dancer.

Is it possible that she had made some wise investments in the market or real estate to amass a million bucks besides dancing?

The cops had no right taking someone's money without any evidence of criminal activity!
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posted on Jul, 23 2013 @ 11:24 PM
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The erosion of privacy and inherent rights in America obviously comes from the consent of its people.

The lady had a large sum of money. No laws were shown to be broken. She had a visible income and claims to have saved the money. Why should any more be required of her than that? A person is assumed innocent until proven guilty, yet that person's possessions are not afforded the same protection. Why not?

The police felt justified in confiscating her money forcing her to go to court to get it back. Some justice! Some folks in this thread feel she "lucked out." People get the kind of government they ask for.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 12:15 AM
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When I was in the Army, the strip clubs would make a fortune on pay day weekends, most of the single gis would pretty much dump their whole check on table dances. I know this because I used to be a DJ at one of the clubs, the girls would make something close to $2000.00 on a payday weekend EACH!



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by olaru12

The cops had no right taking someone's money without any evidence of criminal activity!


Tell it to this man, and the many like him.






posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 12:28 AM
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Reminds me of a story from last year: Man Loses $22,000 In New 'Policing For Profit' Case


In this latest case, a Monterey police officer took $22,000 off the driver -- even though he had committed no crime.

"You live in the United States, you think you have rights -- and apparently you don't," said George Reby.

As a professional insurance adjuster, Reby spends a lot of time traveling from state to state. But it was on a trip to a conference in Nashville last January that he got a real education in Tennessee justice.

"I never had any clue that they thought they could take my money legally," Reby added. "I didn't do anything wrong."

Reby was driving down Interstate 40, heading west through Putnam County, when he was stopped for speeding.

A Monterey police officer wanted to know if he was carrying any large amounts of cash.

"I said, 'Around $20,000,'" he recalled. "Then, at the point, he said, 'Do you mind if I search your vehicle?' I said, 'No, I don't mind.' I certainly didn't feel I was doing anything wrong. It was my money."

That's when Officer Larry Bates confiscated the cash based on his suspicion that it was drug money.

"Why didn't you arrest him?" we asked Bates.

"Because he hadn't committed a criminal law," the officer answered.

Bates said the amount of money and the way it was packed gave him reason to be suspicious.

"The safest place to put your money if it's legitimate is in a bank account," he explained. "He stated he had two. I would put it in a bank account. It draws interest and it's safer."

"But it's not illegal to carry cash," we noted.

"No, it's not illegal to carry cash," Bates said. "Again, it's what the cash is being used for to facilitate or what it is being utilized for."

NewsChannel 5 Investigates noted, "But you had no proof that money was being used for drug trafficking, correct? No proof?"

"And he couldn't prove it was legitimate," Bates insisted.

Bates is part of a system that, NewsChannel 5 Investigates has discovered, gives Tennessee police agencies the incentive to take cash off of out-of-state drivers. If they don't come back to fight for their money, the agency gets to keep it all.

"This is a taking without due process," said Union City attorney John Miles.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 12:35 AM
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What kills me is that cops can take money on suspicion. That is so wrong. ALL MONEY is tainted by molecules of drugs. The money in your pocket is tainted. The money in my pocket is tainted. The money at the bank is tainted. The money in the till at McDonalds is tainted. And the money in the policeman's pocket is also tainted. Anytime a policeman wants to run the drug dogs over my money, he better be ready to run the drug dogs over his own money.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by CIAGypsy
365 days x 15 years =5,475 potential work days

1,074,000 dollars / 5,475 days = $196 a day.... Not accounting for tax

I can't say I have ever spent any amount of time in a strip club, but logic tells me she would have to be one hell of a good stripper to pull that kind of cash every day for 15 years. Maybe she started young?
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A friend of mine is a stripper, and she makes close to $1,500 a night on average. She only works Fridays and Saturdays. $3k a week in 2 days worked definitely covers the $196 a day after taxes needed to make a million bucks in 15 years. This is in Las Vegas, I don't know how other places are, but that is not an uncommon wage in sin city



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
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journalstar.com...


Troopers found two drawstring bags in the cargo area holding large Ziploc bags with rubber-banded bundles of cash — mostly $100s — along with dryer sheets



The Dehris originally said they were taking the money to New Jersey for their friends, Tasha and Rajat Mishra, for a business deal involving a nightclub.


Drive from California to New Jeersy carrying 1 million in cash?

Call me a skeptic.

Never met a stripper with a heart of gold.



Dryer sheets were obviously there to block the scent of the money from K9 Units. Why else would someone wrap money up in them?

Either way though, even if she was up to shady dealings (as it totally suggests by the facts presented) I could really care less from a personal perspective. Yes she got "her money" back, but she will be liable for taxes on it now if she hasn't paid them, (Which I highly doubt she has).

So...

In this case the tax man gets the windfall rather than the police.

I am not very supportive of police confiscating and using illicit money, no matter how it was recovered or seized. I think either money should go to charities, or to victim's funds.

Police seizing money from criminal behaviour seems more like a racket. Encourage people to break the law and then bust them, seize the funds, repeat and rinse.

Keep doing this and you have just created an organization that profits from crime and that's exactly what the US justice system has turned into. Add in lawyers, judges and police and jail salaries and infrastructure creation/maintenance, you have this massive industry that is entirely ignoring the roots of the problem and only making it worse while profiting all along the way.

A very backwards system you have there.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

Most "Strippers" are on something. NO WAY she saved all her money.


You could be wrong Sonnny. During my time in the service, I knew many Soldiers who fell in love with strippers/exotic dancers. "Most" didn't work out, go figure. But some actually did.

I know four former exotic dancers who paid for their college doing this. One is even a commisioned officer with a security clearance now. BTW, me and her NEVER got along.
But it is what it is.

Many strippers also supplement their incomes by being prostitutes, but if she was never caught doing the deed...it's still her money. A lot of Co-Eds are doing the same thing these days as well.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Burden of proof is upon the accuser.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 01:51 AM
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TDawg, Let me just say first hand knowledge is what I have as my proof. They make Money. They blow it on booze and, you know. Ive yet to meet a Stripper that has her stuff together.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 02:40 AM
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One Million Dollars wrapped in dryer sheets suggests illegal activity











The dryer sheets are kind of a dead give away that there were drugs involved with that money, let's be real. However I've always been of the opinion that law enforcement should never be allowed to keep any seized money or property EVER. After all property seizure was one of the main driving factors behind the witch hunts....sorta fitting.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by Hijinx
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..... why was she just driving around with all the moola.... I get it, it's hers and she earned it 1 dollar at a time, but why are you driving around with over a million bucks.... what if your car got stolen, or she got in an accident. Then it'd really be gone.


Safer than a bank - than a Lehman or Cypriot bank.

Sooner or later, the Cypriot model of reaching directly into your bank account to pay the mob bosses will be adopted world wide.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex

A federal judge has ruled that Nebraska cops must return over $1 million confiscated at a traffic stop from a woman who saved the money $1 at a time during her 15 year career as an exotic dancer.

Bataillon ordered that Mishra receive cash or a check in the value of $1,074,000 with interest.


She must have been an amazing exotic dancer... Or something. That's $71,600 per year for 15 years she hid away.

EDIT: Oops. I guess I should read what everybody else posted before replying.
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posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 08:51 AM
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Heck....I know two strippers that make an access of $150 000 a year after taxes, have realy nice homes that are completely paid off and drive 5 series BMW's. They are both "clean" and work the clubs in a very professional manner. To them, it's a very well paying JOB and they are not ashamed of it at all. One of them plans to retire in two years, you know what, she's only 26 and looks like she's 19. The other is 21 and she will be "retiring" soon as well. Both of them are "banking" their money wisely and will be, if not already, millionaires and life off the intrest of their investments.

So...Yeah...It is possible for a stripper to be a millionaire. Not sure about this "shady" million dollar club deal but hey, in this day and age, I guess anything is possible.....



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by CIAGypsy
365 days x 15 years =5,475 potential work days

1,074,000 dollars / 5,475 days = $196 a day.... Not accounting for tax

I can't say I have ever spent any amount of time in a strip club, but logic tells me she would have to be one hell of a good stripper to pull that kind of cash every day for 15 years. Maybe she started young?
edit on 23-7-2013 by CIAGypsy because: (no reason given)


When I worked in the music business I met a lot of different people. One of them was a woman that use to strip. By knowing where to be at the right time of year she could earn as much as $5,000 a night "just stripping." If you hit up something like the International Fruniture Market, SEMA Show, or a large medical convention, the money flows pretty fast.

She told me she once made $2,500 just for taking part in a Cos-Play strip show for rich comic book fans. She said it was less than two hours work and then she went to a local club and worked.



posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 09:42 AM
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Wow. Incredible. That's a lot of self discipline.

So much for college degrees.

Why would cops confiscate money at a traffic stop without finding evidence of drug running or something like that?

And why would you carry $1 million dollars in a car?!


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posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 10:02 AM
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What a strange story!

Why the hell are people just driving around with that kind of money in cash? That's a red flag in my opinion. Either these people are criminals or idiots, they are the only explanations.

You don't buy a business with cash in bags, that's just so ridiculous I don't know what to say about it.

I'm not surprised the cop arrested them and looked into this, I would have too. There is something very suspicious about this (not least of all an exotic dancer earning a million $'s by the age of 30!)


But I guess if nothing has been found, they must be innocent - innocent idiots that is.

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posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by neo96

Originally posted by TDawgRex
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Aw, C'mon Neo. We've all read stories about lil' ol' ladies who have millions stashed under the mattress and lived the simple life.

Maybe she started early?

edit on 23-7-2013 by TDawgRex because: Fat Paws


Use to work at a strip club I know how much they can make 1 million?

Not even close, only place that might even come to that is Vegas or some High end club, but they don't deal in $1's.


That stripper was most likely a mule carrying that cash for something else, rather sure it was not a 'club'.

Strip clubs are one of the best places for money laundering either way I doubt her story.


I know a few "dancers", have even dated a few. If they dont have drug problems then over 15 years its very possible to have 1 million. One of the ones I dated averaged about 70k a year, another almost 50k a year. And the girls in the high end clubs in vegas can make a ton of cash. Now, the doen side is how these girls are treated by the clubs. They have to pay to work. Usually its 100-300 "tip out" depending on the day of the week, fri and sat being highest. And the clubs just take this money and dont report it either. Its all a big shadey game.

Now the girls I dated, never reported it on their income, and Id be willing to bet this girl didnt either, so she will owe a lot of tax money.
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posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by CIAGypsy
365 days x 15 years =5,475 potential work days

1,074,000 dollars / 5,475 days = $196 a day.... Not accounting for tax

I can't say I have ever spent any amount of time in a strip club, but logic tells me she would have to be one hell of a good stripper to pull that kind of cash every day for 15 years. Maybe she started young?
edit on 23-7-2013 by CIAGypsy because: (no reason given)


The girls I knew averaged about 300-500 on week nights after "tip out". And typically 1000+ on fri or sat after tip out.
The money was in private dances, and at one club "shower scenes". Drunk guys will spend alot of money. The good girls will work the drunks with money. It will ad up quick. Plus bachlor parties can be very lucrative, sometimes 2500 or more for 3-5 hours.
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posted on Jul, 24 2013 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by CIAGypsy
365 days x 15 years =5,475 potential work days

1,074,000 dollars / 5,475 days = $196 a day.... Not accounting for tax

I can't say I have ever spent any amount of time in a strip club, but logic tells me she would have to be one hell of a good stripper to pull that kind of cash every day for 15 years. Maybe she started young?
edit on 23-7-2013 by CIAGypsy because: (no reason given)


Not true. You could be the worst stripper and make that and more, it just depends on where you work.

I know from experience since I was a dancer and have seen it first hand. Looks have nothing to do with how much money you make contrary to popular belief. It all depends on the guys personal preference and just because you are blonde with big boobs and look like a porn star or model it doesn't mean you will make more than the heavier frumpy looking girl. I had guys tell me I was too thin or my breasts weren't big enough or they didn't like tats. It really is personal preference from the person paying.

Theoretically making $200 a day is possible if you work an 8hr shift and if you have regulars then your money increases. I bet this girl had regulars and it seems like she worked her rear off to save this kind of money. It is very possible to go to places like Vegas and make thousands a night. I knew a girl about 10yrs ago who went to Vegas for 6mths and in that 6mths she made over 100k, one guy gave her 10k as a tip, A TIP! '

Dancing is lucrative for sure again if you know where to go and if you can handle the environment on a daily regular schedule basis.



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