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What about gypsum?
I'm not a qualified chemist, but gypsum can be formed by other methods also. I found a pdf that includes some info on the chemisty involved:
Water seems to have been a ubiquitous part of the proto-planetary cloud from which our solar system formed, so why would you doubt there was ever
water on Mars?
I can't prove there was never running or pooling water on Mars, I'm saying there are other methods for the formation of materials on Mars that
involve plasma and electro magnetic forces rather than water. Water is neccessary for many chemical reactions to occur, but the amounts needed can be
found withing the silicate surface materials themselves.
And what about the pebbles that indicate a river bed with a fairly fast flow?
That is the biggest disappointment to me, that they did not stop and take close-up images of the pebbles. I think that from the available images I
detected pebbles that looked like they were of metamorphic origin, and if so, what was the source of the material? Also, it is another assumption to
say that pebbles must be formed in fast running water because that is how they form on Earth. I belive my study of pebbles, cobbles, and even much
larger rounded boulders shows they were not formed in water flows. The distance these pebbles would have needed to tumble in a river/stream to become
shaped they way they are would be many thousands of miles, if they were indeed metamorphic rock. I have also cataloged many pebbles and cobbles at
the beach and in rivers that have a common shape and characteristics that defies the odds of their formation by mechanical erosion and smoothing, and
indicating some form of short duration, high energy event. I've been trying to get University geoscience departments to explain these characteristics
by any erosive forces, but they can't so far.
I'm dreading asking this question, but here goes: what would be the source of plasma that created clays on Earth?
The Sun. If it can be shown that our Sun has emitted CMEs of very high magnitude, then there is lots of energy there. Mars, or our Moon, having no
organised magnetic field are much more susceptible to the full force of high energy ions such as iron, as they have no shield. The red/tan dust on
Mars and the Moon would then be from iron ion bombardment, and not from impacting comets. Earths magnetic field has weakened quite a lot over just a
few decades, and if our sheild was down (during a magnetic reversal?) and the Sun did a major belch at that time, we would also be subject to a good
beating. The magnitude of the energies involved, if this scenario was true, would be mind boggling, and I doubt anything on Earth could have survived,
which really does open a big can of worms doesn't it?
The ancient Greeks, through what they heard from the Egiptians, told us that there have been many destructions of the Earth in the past, mainly by
fire or water, and that there would be many more to come. Sometimes the destruction was so complete that life on Earth had to be reestablished, and
then we needed to be helped along till we could manage on our own. That scenario is looking more and more plausible to me all the time.