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It makes me sooo very sad that so many Men in this thread want to dismiss Women's feelings in this thread..
and for the record, I am not fat, ugly, or frigid....soooo save that BS for girls that will take that crap to heart.....
There are two different , maybe three, conversations going on in this thread.
I have NO faith that anything the government mandates is really on behalf of the people / children.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by MountainLaurel
No, I know you aren't. You're one of the few that has approached it in a reasonable manner.
I've watched documentaries like that before, but I don't have time to watch that one right now. I'll try to watch it later on. For every person I hear that says how horrible the industry is, there are some that will say how great it was for them, and they go on to have successful careers in other areas, or become more empowered to do something they like for themselves.
Originally posted by sapien82
reply to post by curiouswa
have any direct evidence to substantiate such a claim !
I was exposed to porn at a young age as I found pornographic material outside in a bush ( which is common in the 80's in the UK )
and then later on at my friends house in his dads room !
followed shortly by the internet on my 56Kbps modem !
I am perfectly sane and have a healthy relationship with my fiance'
I stand by my conviction that extreme porn is harmful on many levels
but as much as you wanna ignore the implications in the name of Freedom, fine.....I don't believe in censorship, which is the tricky part of this whole discussion.
I speak up against things I think harm humanity, however my agenda is NOT to rain on your freedom to watch porn, as much as you want to make it about that
I have NO faith that anything the government mandates is really on behalf of the people / children.
I truly am heartbroken at the responses by all the males in this thread that just don't get it....
You are making a very huge and quite honestly wrong assumption that Porn=Sex=Rape=Violence=Men....
Originally posted by MountainLaurel
reply to post by InhaleExhale
Again, I learned a long time ago that this will very rarely be a subject Men and Women agree on, as for speaking for other Women I really feel comfortable that is not my agenda, I'm the Mother of a 22 yr old daughter that was raped by not one , BUT two men at 19 yrs old....as long as so many Men "believe" this is somehow what Woman "really" want...I stand by my conviction that extreme porn is harmful on many levels.....do you have the right to watch what you want, Yes, but as much as you wanna ignore the implications in the name of Freedom, fine.....I don't believe in censorship, which is the tricky part of this whole discussion.
I speak up against things I think harm humanity, however my agenda is NOT to rain on your freedom to watch porn, as much as you want to make it about that......I have never, ever heard in my lifetime any woman want to be raped, do anal sex or be fisted...and us girls share our feelings......perhaps there are some that get off on this, maybe they take "control in their own way......I also know that people that come from abuse tend to inflict abuse...Men and Women....of course not all, but it is a fact that can't be ignored.....I truly am heartbroken at the responses by all the males in this thread that just don't get it....
Originally posted by Pilgrum
Yes it's been around since the dawn of humans and it will never ever be stamped out but the current types of bestiality and under-age child abuse (yes it is abuse, illegal and harsh punishments apply in many civilized countries) go far beyond what the average person could consider excessive.
Originally posted by MountainLaurel
I'm the Mother of a 22 yr old daughter that was raped by not one , BUT two men at 19 yrs old
....as long as so many Men "believe" this is somehow what Woman "really" want...I stand by my conviction that extreme porn is harmful on many levels
.....do you have the right to watch what you want, Yes, but as much as you wanna ignore the implications in the name of Freedom, fine.....I don't believe in censorship, which is the tricky part of this whole discussion.
I speak up against things I think harm humanity
Originally posted by MountainLaurel
There are two different , maybe three, conversations going on in this thread. Again at the end of the day I have NO faith that anything the government mandates is really on behalf of the people / children......I think I try and participate , acknowledge and maybe use my life experiences to make what ever little difference I can at this point. I have been brutally honest in my reactions and thoughts here on ATS....and talked about things I sometimes regret...lol....yeah, I know all us folks over 40 will hopefully just die, cause we are sooo stupid, and I think the kid that made that statement hopes we are all dead at 60 will consider we might have something to offer, but no worries, for me I already decided I'm willing to die to let our kids live if I ever have to make that decision.
No doubt there are some generation differences when it comes to porn, but believe it or not this "old" lady knows a few things, I grew up in the SF Valley, Porn Capital of USA.....and even if your not directly involved, which I wasn't, I saw things that I never really understood exactly, but make perfect sense to me now, parties my BF's band would play at having bedrooms with very expensive, professional cameras that were NOT the norm of the day, there was no internet, in those days, 80's, at least not to average homes.
It makes me sooo very sad that so many Men in this thread want to dismiss Women's feelings in this thread..Do you think we all weren't sexual, "horny kids", do you think we didn't see porn, and maybe even enjoy it as a 'couples" activity, do you think we didn't know most Men had Playboy mags, LOLOLO ....one of the funniest things I ever saw was my friend draw bikini's on one of her hubby's mags. Do you think we don't have Husbands, Lover's, Son's , Nephew's that we LOVE, and we don't try and understand that they are wired differently when it comes to visual stimulation and sexuality.
Originally posted by MountainLaurel
reply to post by InhaleExhale
Again, I learned a long time ago that this will very rarely be a subject Men and Women agree on, as for speaking for other Women I really feel comfortable that is not my agenda, I'm the Mother of a 22 yr old daughter that was raped by not one , BUT two men at 19 yrs old....as long as so many Men "believe" this is somehow what Woman "really" want...I stand by my conviction that extreme porn is harmful on many levels.....do you have the right to watch what you want, Yes, but as much as you wanna ignore the implications in the name of Freedom, fine.....I don't believe in censorship, which is the tricky part of this whole discussion.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by MountainLaurel
All of my guy friends have watched porn, had the magazines, etc. NOT ONE has ever said women want to be raped. We also grew up playing Doom and other violent video games, and none of us have ever acted in a violent way to a woman (unless she hits first, then all bets are off). I put my elbow through a door once to keep from hitting my ex, even though she was doing everything possible to get me to hit her. You know why my friends and I are like this? Because our parents took the time to teach us right from wrong, instead of putting us in front of a TV and expecting us to raise ourselves.
Originally posted by truthermantwo
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
yeah but sex is something that is an inherent personal responsibility. You cant just go out jumping on someone like dogs do and expect them to respect you or perhaps let you live. The reason young people are expirementing so much is because society and media are subliminaly telling them it's going to happen, they might as well start early, instead of using their time while young and fresh to fill their brain with a path to self sustanance.edit on 23-7-2013 by truthermantwo because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by PhoenixOD
Wow this present government has really gone power mad. In Amsterdam they have had legal porn for many years and they have a very low sex crime rate. Blocking porn should be a decision made by us not forced on us!
I think this country needs to grow up do some real parenting and stop letting Cameron bully us around.
edit on 22-7-2013 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
I have met women that are kinkier than men and that drop guys because they are not good enough in bed. Tell me this doesn't happen.
Originally posted by Bicent76
not sure how the british government can do that but, not a bad idea... Kids are sneaky... I dont think its much of a civil rights intrusion, the brits are by default and have been somewhat of a NANNY state anyhow..