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Originally posted by JackofBlades
Originally posted by ThaEnigma
Originally posted by Swizzy
reply to post by mikegrouchy
Missing the point entirely.
Why should EVERY adult with internet access be subjected to this because of negligent parenting and lack of education on this subject?
1. There are too many negligent parents..
2. The ease and accessibility of online pornography and hyper-sexualized images can be quite hamful to young unsuspecting children's minds..
3. Isn't it easy to make a choice within your home if you wish to be exposed to uncensored material.. (I for one would be ok with that)..
4. It's easy to turn this discussion into a "nanny-state" argument, but in this case, with the proliferation of pornography to unseen levels, it has become a worthwhile topic to debate with regards to protecting our society and its values...
You've missed the point being made there, entirely.
The issue is that me and millions of other internet users shouldn't have to pay the price because parents aren't making any effort whatsoever to do something as simple as learn how to put blocks or filters in place. ISP's should shoulder the responsibility of ensuring parents are informed enough to place a block on their network, and if they're not they shouldn't have the internet. Like any piece of technology or information, it should be regulated, and in a house with children the burden must be placed on the adults to make sure they're proficient enough to monitor their kids, and also to limit what they can and cannot access.
As an analogy, I have no driving license. If I go to a car dealership, and "opted-in" to a contract to drive safely, would the dealer sell me a car? No, he'd tell me I'd need a license.
Similarly, if a parent goes to an ISP and says "One internet, please," the ISP should ask them if they know how to implement parental filters, prevent their children from using a proxy to bypass those filters, how to use monitoring software. If the parent looks at them like this they can't have any internet until they can do these things.
I mean, it's not particularly hard to learn how to do them. Or even really time consuming. It's just pure lack of knowledge from parents who are only (in the last decade or so) really making use of computers which the children of the last decade have grown up with. Unfortunately, the parents must shoulder all of the blame here, as it's their job to keep on top of things like this. I, and those like me, have absolutely nothing to do with the porn in their homes, and don't ant anything to do with it. I don't want to opt-in or out, I don't want to be grouped with them, and I don't want the government SETTING A PRECEDENT for the monitoring and snooping of our internet usage. Seriously, the things I find myself looking at at 4am freak me out. I don't want a stranger knowing and assuming I'm psychotic.
Anyway, watching Cameron's various interviews, it seems the main focus of this move was to stop the spread of child pornography. Which this won't really impact. They'll just stop using something as traceable as the internet, and start moving their material by hand.
The issue isn't that porn exists and kids can access it.
Please. Porn's been around as long as sex has been around, and kids have always had access to it. Whether that was sneaking away to read a pinched magazine in the 30's, or searching for something on Google.
In short, it's not my fault parents aren't 1337. LRN2 INTERNET
The concern I brought up is about my three year old grand daughter who can access mobile phones and once on the seat also my computer. I want her to be curious and travel the internet but I do want her protected from porn - by which I don't mean nudity, I mean hardcore, porn and snuff etc.
Originally posted by Xterrain
Originally posted by beezzer
Shouldn't this be a decision best made in the home instead of a de facto decision made by government?
Pornography negatively impacts any society. It's unnatural to see other women without their consent to you personally. I agree with this and I hope it becomes a global decision. We don't need it. It does no good. Too many people take advantage of immature, adolescent girls, and those girls get into drugs and that path is a short one and anyone who's using the images is contributing to their habits, way of life, and in some cases, their eventual death.
Flame on internet porn geeks...edit on 23-7-2013 by Xterrain because: (no reason given)
Porn addiction is very real and damaging. I want it GONE.
I'm ALL for blocking it. It is degrading to women,
Originally posted by Aisling
Originally posted by alysha.angel
im sorry but its too assesble to everyone. and kids lie about their ages all of the time.i agree with the prime minister
iv spoken to young men about this subject and to find out that what their expecting is not what their going to get in the bedroom because a lot of women have different views on whats right and wrong in the bedroom .. id like to pat the guy on the back for this ..
A lot of people who are pro porn, have no idea what it's like to deal with porn addiction. They have NO idea the damage and despair it can cause for the addicted person and their families. It's unreal.
THIS is what Really peeves me about the whole damn Porn Rape culture. Got news for ya buddy, there is a LOT of VIOLENT RAPE in PORN
There is a LOT of Trafficking and Raped into Porn AND Prostitution, Fact
There is a Lot of WAR PORN made from horrible rape camps
I'm not a prude nor am I opposed to Erotica, However I am LOUDLY opposed to the Billion dollar Industry that Thrives on DESTROYING REAL HUMAN BEINGS.
Long time Anti porn sex slavery advocate who has Met and Talked to Numerous females DESTROYED by this sick industry. It is an Abusive, Enxploitative, Soul destroying Industry that Destroys millions.
On another note, Someone said that there is no Sex Crime in Amsterdam, I beg to differ,