Online pornography to be blocked by default, PM to announce

I feel like this entire threat violates the T&C. Remember that old argument, "Kids read this site too we can't have this type of material" ? I had a thread deleted, for instance, which was about how much money certain Wal Street investors spent on a local dominatrix. It was actually financially concerned journalism.

Originally posted by centhwevir1979
I feel like this entire threat violates the T&C. Remember that old argument, "Kids read this site too we can't have this type of material" ? I had a thread deleted, for instance, which was about how much money certain Wal Street investors spent on a local dominatrix. It was actually financially concerned journalism.

Well in on all the UK news sites of which im sure kids read from time to time, so why is it bad to talk about it?

Its their future country making these calls for them.

And next year someone will come up the great idea to tax those porn watchers to pay for the sex crimes they didn't do. And how about a local public listing so your peoples perfect children don't walk past a home where someone watches PORN!!!

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You rest your case? The state of Florida did a better job of proving Zimmerman was a Racist Child Murderer. Like someone has already said, if this is the case why don't they just start banning movies all together? What about people who watch shows such as House or Scrubs. Should those shows be banned because not every case is unique and some new mystery virus or injury? Or because my life as a nurse really WON'T be a comedy?

Invalid. Also like someone has said, it should be an opt OUT system. I've been in several relationships, and have watched Porn in all of them. Sometimes the girl is on the rag, or away, I never pressured them to send me nudies of themselves. I can't watch a little porn for 10 seconds to get myself off?


EDIT: kids are always going to be self conscious about sex. No matter how much porn they watch or don't watch, the first few times they have sex with any girl are going to be filled with doubt because they are inexperienced, or they just don't know the girl. Hell, some guys may even get some ideas, new positions maybe? New foreplay?

It's unfair to put the burden on people who do watch it as opposed to having parents block it for their kids well being. You know how you can stop your kid from watching porn? Put the computer in the living room, or an open area of the house. They are called rules. My old dial up computer was in the dining room (immediately behind my living room), we weren't allowed to bring the phone into our rooms. People need to start raising their kids, stop letting the state do it for you.

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T&C are a funny thing on this website.

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Viewing child porn on the internet is not illegal - downloading images on to your hard drive is illegal as is producing child porn.

I have absolutely nothing against porn per se - as long as it's consenting adults.
I firmly believe that people should be allowed to watch and enjoy what they want to - I certainly do.
Too many people have too many hang-up's regarding sex.
And far too many people want to impose their own personal morals on other's and I find that abhorrent and passionately oppose it.

But child pornography is a whole different ball game.
How do we go about first of all restricting it and secondly eliminating it?

Whether it's real or not there is a perceived increase in child pornography and if people are circumventing existing rules and regulations to produce and view it then something has to be done to address that.

Does watching porn affect children and their attitudes to sex?
Possibly.
There's certainly some evidence to suggest it does.
So what should be done to prevent them from accessing it?

I don't know but I suspect the reluctance of many parents to accept responsibility to do so is a manifestation of a deeper malaise within our society but I guess that might be a whole different discussion altogether.

Are these measures a step down the right road?
Probably not and I seriously suspect Cameron's motivations.
But it has got people talking about it - and that at least is a small step in the right direction.

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There is more porn in the Conservative party than
any online porn site, and double the amount of sleaze.

This has nothing to do with Government, like every one else is saying...
this is a personal choice that Cameron needs to keep his hooter out of...

Originally posted by beezzer
Shouldn't this be a decision best made in the home instead of a de facto decision made by government?

Yes. That's why people have the option of overriding the default "setting".

And it's like the OP said, porn isn't a needed commodity. Maybe for amateurs, but not for the rest of us.

And really, if you honestly think that the majority of people can make decisions for themselves that are beneficial to society as a whole, you have more faith in people than I do.

I would love to see less Government control. But in order for that to happen and still have a functioning and productive society, we need more accountability and societal maturity out of the people. I don't see that. Turn on the news, look out your window, and live in this society and you won't see much of it either.

The Government does this sort of thing because we can't. It's that simple.

Count yourselves lucky people

Some of us older people all we had was a JcPenny catalog.

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I htink most people are upset that the opt is the wrong way round.

you dont force a change and then make the person opt out, you make it AVAILABLE to opt into.

Also i dont want to call my ISP and tell them im a dirty bastard and i want my grott back.

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I remember my Mum asking why a page out of the littlewoods catalog was torn out (I was about 14) I said my brother spilt milk on it, she said "funny how it was the ladies underwear section".

All those who think this is a good idea need to get a grip. They will not prevent acces to porn sites, they will prevent acces to sites containing adult material......

....think about that for a second.....

Their are a lot of web sites that I visit that are classed as containind"adult material", and i'm sure if you think about it, their are a lot you visit too. That comedy websit you go to where the humour is a little satirical, perhaps uses the occasional swear word---BLOCKED--THIS SITE CONTAINS ADULT MATERIAL----

What do you do now?

Do you contact you ISP and ask them to unblock you all the while thinking "they think i'm looking at porn", while trying to convince them that it only "thebestwebpageintheuniverse", or "tuckermax" or "youtube" you want to access.

Or do you just accept that you will never get to view any material on line that has greater than a PG13 rating?

Heres a thought! In all the years I have been online I have never accidentally seen anything that I wasnt looking for. Yes, I have viewed adult material, but never have I raped a woman, neither do I expect my wife to suddenly find an appetite for dressing up as a school girl for a dogging session in the woods.

HOWEVER....

In order to continue using some of my prefered torrenting sites (I create high quality training presentations using open sources software which I like to share via torrents due to the file size) I downloaded the onion browser, Tor, something I would not have done had our crappy government not forced my ISP to block certain sites, and heres the weird thing. In order to continuie doing a perfectly legal process, using perfectly legal methods and softwares, I have to channel through another perfectly legal software which, due to its nature gives me access to the dark web where all of the things that banning certain sites is supposed to prevent, are readilly available and anonimous!!!!!

I fail to see the sense in it.

P.S. I would like to add a sort of disclaimer and a warning here, while I find Tor useful for accessing sites that my ISP has banned, I wouldnt advise anyone to spend to much time in the dark web, but if you do be warned, in the WWW a link might say one thing, but not actually be what its saying, in a positive sense. On the dark web you get exactly what it says.

Originally posted by stormcell

Originally posted by beezzer
Shouldn't this be a decision best made in the home instead of a de facto decision made by government?

They did try context sensitive porn filters - block sites based on keywords and pictures; but they ended up blocking bird-watching sites, basketball and other sports. That's the main problem. It's easy to define the extreme stuff, but then things like department store catalogs can get included as well.

Very true....as S#horpe Tourist Information website found out when it was bloked by a large majority of webfilters back in the day.

And right there above is yoiur answer a seaside town blocked. For those who dont know the missing four letters are:
btms----well, the next letter on from each of these

Originally posted by beezzer
Shouldn't this be a decision best made in the home instead of a de facto decision made by government?

Well said, friend!

Originally posted by Biigs

Originally posted by christafinias
soooo, will they start block stuff on TV, like Spartacus and True blood? hope not!
I think if children have access to the internet, then its the parents responsibility to monitor that.
If parents don't know how to use computers, smartphones or parental controls and filters then they should learn.
get smart, learn this stuff or not have the internet in.

just my opinion anyway

They even THINK about touching my game of thrones, im gunna have to get all serious.

Porn is one thing, but leave my sexy awesome dramas alone!

LOL!

I remember way before the internet as a young teen, I learned how to slightly change the angle of the sattelite dish and re-tune it to pick up all of the soft porn being broadcast from europe.

Which I think sort've proovs that horny young men will find a way to see naked ladies..!

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Originally posted by beezzer
Shouldn't this be a decision best made in the home instead of a de facto decision made by government?

Exactly. This is just more censorship. Nudity is "evil" and Sex is "evil" according to people like this.

It wouldnt surprise me if they charged to opt in for porn. Then they would have finally found a way of putting a tax on jerking off!

Of course they will call it an administrative fee but we all know the deal..

I get a kick out of this thread. You can tell how many porn watchers there are here by the number of stars awarded in the beginning of this thread.

Oh, the indignance! Hilarious.

I agree with the proposed policy because I'm sick to death of the porn industry.

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I am guilty of doing this too....

First naked lady i saw was on a beach on holiday many many years before i saw my first porn pic. So when i did see porn for the first time in an English news paper, it was not remotely a bad or degrading thing.

"Mr Cameron also called for warning pages to pop up with helpline numbers when people try to search for illegal content." - bbc news

I think this is taking it a little too far with the intrusion for sure.

If i typo 'cat' with an s at the front, i dont want a mental health government rep on my front door after monitoring my activity, just the wanring coming up with a get help number, just sounds awful

Bottom line - no one is ever going to eradicate porn. And the more you lock it up, the more attractive it becomes to those who are denied it. Education is the only way. And again, I must point out and ask, why is it so horrible to watch people have sex, and perfectly acceptable to watch a movie where people get killed, bomb each other, stab, etc?