In 1964, Kardashev defined three levels of civilizations, based on the order of magnitude of the amount of power available to them:
Type I "Technological level close to the level presently (here referring to 1964) attained on earth, with energy consumption at ≈4×1019 erg/sec (4 × 1012 watts.) Guillermo A. Lemarchand stated this as "A level near contemporary terrestrial civilization with an energy capability equivalent to the solar insolation on Earth, between 1016 and 10 17 watts."
Type II "A civilization capable of harnessing the energy radiated by its own star (for example, the stage of successful construction of a Dyson sphere), with energy consumption at ≈4×1033 erg/sec. Lemarchand stated this as "A civilization capable of utilizing and channeling the entire radiation output of its star. The energy utilization would then be comparable to the luminosity of our Sun, about 4 × 1026 watts."
Type III "A civilization in possession of energy on the scale of its own galaxy, with energy consumption at ≈4×1044 erg/sec." Lemarchand stated this as "A civilization with access to the power comparable to the luminosity of the entire Milky Way galaxy, about 4 × 1037 Watts."
We want a healthy forest ecology, so, we maintain a minimal control approach, and don't expend much money or resources in doing so since letting nature do and be on its own in the end is the best policy. Often enough, when it comes to nature, letting nature do what it does and leaving well enough alone, even if and when human lives are endangered is the best course. There's 8 BILLION humans on the planet. We can stand to let those who want to live in a forest fire zone to live and or die with the risks of doing so.
Originally posted by AlienView
reply to post by Druscilla
Of course if humans were to take that line which does make sense, why don't we extend the nature is best
line of thought and get rid of medicine, makes us weak, survival of the fittest is the natural way to go; And while
were at it those cars just pollute the atmosphere and also make us weak, horses and donkeys are more
natural; and things like electricity and indoor plumbing, very unnatural and we should get rid of that too? I do some times admire cultures like the Amish who reject all those modern inventions like electricity and still travel on horse carts........But getting back to forest fires if w'ere going to go all natural why stop them at all - the firefighters are battling nature - Are you trying to say fire is natural and fighting fires is unnatural? But don't mind me, I sometimes don't understand human thinking thats why I call myself - AlienView
FRESNO, Calif. — An out-of-control forest fire threatening about 2,500 structures near Yosemite National Park was one of more than 50 active, large wildfires dotting the western U.S. on Wednesday. The remote blaze in Stanislaus National Forest west of Yosemite grew to more than 25 square miles and was only 5 percent contained, threatening homes, hotels and camp buildings. The fire has led to the voluntary evacuation of the private gated summer community of Pine Mountain Lake, which has a population of 2,800, as well as several organized camps, at least two campgrounds and dozens of other private homes. Two residences and seven outbuildings have been destroyed.
The resolution said the fire was "directly threatening various communities and businesses" and "beyond our capabilities," according to the Modesto Bee. The fire was among the nation's top firefighting priorities, according to the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, Idaho. Fifty-one major uncontained wildfires are burning throughout the West, according to the center, including in California, Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Washington and Wyoming. More than 19,000 firefighters were fighting the fires. But the U.S. Forest Service, the nation's top wildfire-fighting agency, said Wednesday that it is running out of money to fight wildfires and is diverting $600 million from timber, recreation and other areas to fill the gap. The agency said it had spent $967 million so far this year and was down to $50 million – typically enough to pay for just a few days of fighting fires when the nation is at its top wildfire preparedness level, which went into effect Tuesday. There have been more than 32,000 fires this year that have burned more than 5,300 square miles.
I would think the species man can do better than except that paradigm ...
... And to many Man is not a natural occurence and can no longer except being subject