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Violence erupts in France over police check of veiled Muslim woman

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posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 05:28 AM
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Nice!

My Fiancee and I were walking down the street a few weeks ago We were pushing a pram and a fully veiled muslim women moved to one side, my partner thanked her to which she replied "you're welcome". Here husband then proceeded to tell her to shut up, to which I replied, "You shut the F**k up and learn some manners.

He seemed really shocked and scared.

Im thinking of sticking a veil on and when a muslim man tries to degrade me, I'll ninja him to death with an incense stick.




posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 05:53 AM
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He most definitely had it coming. I hope you're 6'8" and 400lbs too so the guy crapped his pants.

Is it wrong that my fantasies involve Muslim men who cut their wive's fingers off for trying to gain an education getting their houses busted into by angry mobs who then cuts the husband's fingers off?

"An eye for an eye" totally trumps turning the other cheek.



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by LABTECH767
it is well known that certain groups wish to forcible impose shariah law over the west, we have them in Britain and they certainly have them in france.


It is well known that we have far-right neo-Nazi groups in the west who want to kill gays, Muslims, black people, even nationals born in their country.

Is that justification for attacking ALL white people?

There are fanatics in every group, yet I have never ever met a single Muslim who wants Sharia Law. It's strange how that hypocritical excuse seems to work on so many people.



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 06:14 AM
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So its ok for men to harass others mens wives? Oh but its ok for the guy in blue..he has a badge. Pathetic.



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by HairlessApe
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He most definitely had it coming. I hope you're 6'8" and 400lbs too so the guy crapped his pants.

Is it wrong that my fantasies involve Muslim men who cut their wive's fingers off for trying to gain an education getting their houses busted into by angry mobs who then cuts the husband's fingers off?

"An eye for an eye" totally trumps turning the other cheek.


Im 6"3 and 16 stone but he was a big guy too.

I think like most abusers, he would only front up to women though.

No I don't think thats wrong to fantasise about, although I wouldnt go for their fingers......



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by LevelEleven
So its ok for men to harass others mens wives? Oh but its ok for the guy in blue..he has a badge. Pathetic.


Uh. Typically in the western world when a police officer demands that you identify yourself, we don't consider that harassment. And we also don't consider women personal property, so it's not really up to the husband to identify his wife to Johnny Law, it's up to her to do that. Since identification in the western world is also based upon facial recognition.... Well, hopefully you can fill in the rest of that statement.


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posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 06:30 AM
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That is because most people in the western world are coward sheep that have no idea of their rights as people.



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 06:58 AM
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These immigrants have absolutely no respect for the laws held sacred by the citizens of their host countries.Sounds like a matter of time before these minor clashes escalate.



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 08:37 AM
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They believe their religious freedoms are being infringed.
Basically it's more an attack on women than the religion, but it's always been the way, women are usually the ones targeted by religious extremists and governments that hate religion.

Was it a female officer that did the ID check?
If not then it was obviously done on purpose to incite a reaction.



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by TDawg61
These immigrants have absolutely no respect for the laws held sacred by the citizens of their host countries.Sounds like a matter of time before these minor clashes escalate.


Do any of the articles state she was an immigrant?



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Trolloks
The Veil is not actualy part of Islam, it's from a culture hundreds of years ago.

Back in the day, the masters of the slaves forced the slaves to cover their face, as to make them appear sub-human, thus causing less guilt or effect on the masters concious. That is where it originated from.

When Islam spread and the slaves were no longer slaves, they kept the woman in veils as for the same reason the master of the slaves did, to make them appear suub-human to their owners (husbands, men, etc) and thus cause them less guilt when they punish them, or keep forcing them to act against their will (rape, sharia law etc).

If it had anything to do with Islam, every muslim woman would have to be covered, but they are not.
It is a sect of Islam that mixed with the customs of a land they expanded into. The religion got mixed with the culture, and thus now seem un-seperable.

My point is, the veil is not religious, it is cultural.


I don't Know Where this MYTH came from, but it IS a Myth. fact is,

In the times of Ancients, middle east, Rome and so forth, it was the NOBLE women who were veiled and SLAVE women who could be raped at any time with impunity who were unveiled, stripped and SHAVEN, Fact. Unveiled women were known to be Property of the ruling state or empires of that time, a SLAVE CLASS. FACT. LOOK IT UP. This whole slaves were. Overed by force is pure nonsense, it's not even Historical fact...they were Branded with tattooed of their master owners and shorn so If they ran they could be sent back to owner, FACT. All CAPTIVES were naked per se, to humiliate them, shorn, etc. only the Citizens could be veiled, covered, all one has to do is look up ancient fashions of nobility and then peasants/slaves through out time. Geesh...where these myths come from is mind boggling.

To clarify it was shorn or cut hair, but anyway, women had no rights, to their bodies, they were either property chattel of the NOBLE CITIZEN MALE or property as a Slave, caste type thing.

Both Paul and other leaders, etc instructed women to be veiled and he says exact, it is a shame for a woman to be shorn. Yes it was because shorn women were raped, sold to sex slave temples, etc and had no rights whatsoever. This is why in Orthodox Christianity women are still veiled in prayer, back in ancients it was a Class thing. (all women in church were to veil as to not have one whore class and one noble class, etc., we don't have as much record as redemption monies to free sex slave women then but there's a few, research familia law and women, ancient times, etc., that's where the whole veiling traditions stem from, it's about a slave class thing and pure women or married women, etc., Which was only certain citizens, or redeemed slaves)

Islam it was same way, women were to be be veiled as not to be humiliated as shorn prostituted women. Prostituted as in Slave, there wasn't like choices then, there was still a caste system, so forth. Proof of this is when Islam in war they are told they can rape unveiled women, they are seen as state fodder, etc., when I corporates by marriage they are then to be veiled as Muslim protected, sure it's a chattel system but it's chattel by marriage or chattel sex slave under states, etc--a similar but carried out differently is the sects of Orthodox Judaism that women shave their heads, something to Do with resistance to I question period and sex slavery, anyway it's to show only ownership under husband rather than state, etc, though I don't know the whole issue behind that but that's what a Jewish woman told me, but same principle etc)

So, in modern Interpretations it would still be seen as same thing, to force unveiling is really in their lens a forced holding women captive under the State as state whores, etc., meaning the State can rape them at will, etc., if they choose. In Eastern cultures who still go by the ancient lens of caste etc shorn women are lower caste, etc., and can be raped and mistreated etc.,

That's where that whole thing comes from. They see us as Willing sex slaves to the state, and not just Islam, it's the same thing with Orthodoxy.

yes they both are Patriarchal however the Difference is, their form of patriarchy is to protect their females from other empires raping which gets into the genocide by rape infiltration, etc., and therefore colonization etc where as in west,

Men dont protect females at all...but it's NOT because they Care about females, they have zero respect and worse,

Western females have no self respect either. The whole fun feminist bimbo culture has done more to feed rape and whore culture that even Toddler females are not safe from rape with impunity anymore. they are Both misogynist to the core however it falls back Into that Private whore property verses Communal whore property, etc.

Yes pedophilia is rampant in Those patriarchal cultures as well but at Least they marry then there, Here they just pass females around like dogs.

Anyway point being, the Veil custom was not about subjugating then at least not Then back in ancients, it was to protect them from being a prostituted sex slave class.

Fact. Even Roman familia law had the veil law in place, IF a non Noble citizen female was caught with veil to hide her slave status which included a tattoo branded and shorn hair, it was punishable. Often by crucifixition, death, etc.

Not to say, however that the forced veiling isn't about patriarchal control, as it sure is, and not trivializing the abuses, etc.,

But, the foundation a. Reasons for veiling were in no way about forcing a sexualized subclass to be raped, it was the opposite, it was so that they would be discerned between the subjugated can rape u veiled female class to the protected noble female class.

Read Algeria's Unveiled by Camus, he gets into the political ramifications of forced unveiling and why the Algerians were against the French for these policies as it was a form of colonization by attacking the Women.

Westerners have a difficult time with understanding because they have not had other empires colonize them and rape and TRAFFICK their females with impunity enmass.

When Westerners demand unveiling to Them it's the equivalent of the state saying you have no rights to protect your females from our assaults...it may sound archaic,

But if you know the history you understand where Those hostilities come from. Either way it's the women who get abused by both sides...and have no autonomy either way. As well the Women who may be feminist mind you, may not agree with Westerners trying to liberate then because They see the porn culture and rape culture and what IT'S done to Thousands of females all over Asia and East,

Especially in sex trafficking.

Which is why Eastern women resent the Western fun feminist bimbo "whore" culture,

And quite frankly I don't blame them.
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posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 10:52 AM
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Its a tough issue - because that IS the Islamic culture. But so too, do people from neighbouring countries have to stick to their laws of modesty when they enter their countries.


I think people should have the right to behave as they like in any country

Within reason of course.

If they want to wear veils - why not? Is it hurting anyone?!
If someone wants to go half dressed. Why not? Is it really bothering anyone?!

This law was made to cause tension if you ask me.

These women aren't forced to wear them, they want to wear them out of choice. This is just causing further divides. And ultimately it leads to some form of dictatorship.

Let people dress how they see fit!!!!
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posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 10:52 AM
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man arrested for assaulting officer during identity check of wife


Even though I don't have any religious background but I stand by that man for protecting his wife.
I would've k##l the officer.

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posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by gladtobehere
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Amazing isnt it?

In France, the police simply check a veil and the people ERUPT.

In the US, the police are conducting road side strip searches and the sheeple do nothing...


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If I'm following you guys correctly, aren't you saying that America needs more Muslim immigrants to teach the rest of America how to stand up for themselves?

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posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 11:00 AM
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Freedom of dress code should be a right.

Most religions have a "uniform" .
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posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 11:21 AM
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Those third world subhumans know nothing about respecting women,I read an article about respecting women in the latest Playboy and it was a real eye-opener,it changed my life.
In all fairness though some of them can learn (despite them being uncivilized and whatnot). Maybe we need to make some effort to teach them. I say,take em to a nice,quite place (the nearest strip club would be a good idea) where you could explain to them the civilized and respectful approach we have regarding women.

Anyway,I agree with the general sentiment,those who can't follow a country's laws should be sent back to their countries,this way everybody will be happy. There they'll be able to live the way they want to without bothering others...and of course then we'll be able to complain that those people in that far-away country don't live according to our civilized standards and we should change them one way or the other...or we could hope for a spontaneous,innocent and righteous civil war which,always by coincidence,would change that country the way we'd prefer.



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 11:27 AM
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Women choose to dress like that most religions have a UNIFORM.

Its called MODESTY. Levels of modesty differ from woman to woman.

Some women in religions have to cover their hair - by choice often I might add.

Other legs and so on and so forth.

Why cant women chose what parts of themselves they wish to cover? I think its a reversal misogynists.

I think the full covering of the face should not be allowed but that's simply due to the fact that - not because its cruel to women - after all many chose this. But because its rude. In western society its a form of respect to be able to see one another's faces.



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 12:10 PM
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Not shocked.

A French guy I know who originally comes from Guadelope, has moved back as he said if you have a modest income and have to live anywhere near areas predominantly populated by Muslims then its Hell. The same is here in London, people don't realise how bad it is living in Newham, Poplar and Tower Hamlets, these places are hell for anyone but in particular for white Brits although to be honest I know plent of Ghanians, Indians, Jamaicans and Poles who say that its getting out of hand the kind "unofficial" governing that goes on in these areas by the predominantly Muslim councils. I hear its worse in Bradford, Leeds and Luton.

As I have said plenty of times, not all Muslims are fanatical, but they follow what is essentially a totalitarian religion that controls every aspect of their lives, its unlike any other in this present day. That in itself, could be classed as fantatical.



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 12:14 PM
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Well its a fact that Europe does have kind of a highish muslim population now.

And you are quite right - they chose to live here. If they have chosen this to a degree they should assimilate.



posted on Jul, 22 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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Ive asked before: Man or woman?



Are there any strapped bombs? An AK47 assault rifle? Handgun?



Are you sure???????



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