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Originally posted by rstrats
I just don't understand why people want to believe that the fate of the unsaved is to spend eternity in conscious torment when there is simply no clear scripture to support that belief....................
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Rex282
The New Testament says that there is a hell.
There is no place that is the eternal punishment of hell.
Jim per usual you don't know what the hell you are talking about.For someone who prides themselves on language and being learned you are very ignorant of the basics.
Do the Greek NT scriptures have the word "hell" in them...I'll answer ...no.(just as they don't have Jesus)
In the NT hell is translated from 3 Greek words
Hades and Gehenna do not mean eternal punishment and Tartarus is Greek mythology.
Hades means the grave, the realm of the dead, the realm of imperception
Gehenna was the "valley of Hinnom," "valley of the son of Hinnom" or "valley of the children of Hinnom."outside of Jerusalem where heathens(including some Israelites) who worshiped Baals and Moch burned their children as sacrifice.
Neither are literal places of eternal punishment by The creator God.Yahoshua very clearly meant something else since he very well knew what he said.Your belief is character assassination of the creator God you have made in your own image by the indoctrination from your cult church.It is impossible for God to be the unjust monster you believe he is.
Half of your scripture "quotes" aren't even about what you call hell.They are religious extrapolations to try to prove a blasphemous point.The scriptures overwhelmingly testify that Yahoshua is the savior of ALL..not just some like you.Fortunately God will save you to even though you blaspheme him.He is much more merciful,wise and just than you and your foolish thoughts of religion.
You are so blinded by the letter of the law you don't desire mercy at all.Go learn what the scriptures mean before you spew your foolishness.You know neither the scriptures nor the power of God.
Reciting word origins is no key to understanding. (a translational noobe pitfall)
You are so blinded by the letter of the law you don't desire mercy at all.Go learn what the scriptures mean before you spew your foolishness.
It is something I work at though, spending a couple hours a day at least reading them in the Greek.
You know neither the scriptures nor the power of God.