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I'll keep that in mind while I make my own posts, not to write them as questions, since I will not be expecting any answers, like the answer I didn't get to my other question, which is what your message is and what are you trying to accomplish, and why bother, and what is your source of your thinking that you are right and everyone else is wrong.
I won't be addressing you anymore in this thread because you are a fool asking foolish questions you have no desire to be answered truthfully nor could you understand them.
You also don't explain why Jesus chose the disciples, if they were not to be the ones to establish the church.
That is your stock response not mine.I didn't say that at all.
I was just asking a question, and you think that is "twisting". If I am, you do have the opportunity to untwist it if I'm misunderstanding what you are saying.
You are the one twists words and statements not me.
I don't think that I am assuming anything, if I read a post where someone is quoting Bible verses where they are applying it in some way that doesn't fit with what it was written to mean. I don't claim to have some special source of knowledge other than to just read the verses in a way that is looking to find its actual meaning. Its just doing a little study and doing some critical thinking, and then I am willing to share what I find out, so everyone can get up to what I know. I'm not trying to be all enigmatic as if I am holding back on a secret that I am keeping for myself.
You assume you know more than others.It is you that is a know it all that knows nothing and assumes everyone is like you.
Oh, so saying things like, "All you are doing is nothing but spout religious rhetoric that is meaningless and full of fear and hate.What you think I'm doing doesn't matter to me at all because what you say means nothing.You are the one spreading contentions and false doctrines of lies of religion not me." is not being judgmental, that you are just stating facts? Well, I think you have a funny idea of what a fact is, since all this that you are saying about me seems very subjective to me.
I don't judge anyone.I am only stating what I hear and you are deaf to it.I don't blame or condemn you for it or belittle you... it is just fact
The Gospel is the good news of the arrival of the kingdom, and that we now have our king in Heaven, who is Jesus. I don't think that I need a religion to tell me that but to just read the Bible and to understand what it says. Your own religion seems to be telling you that the Gospel is "everyone is saved because God is the savior."
Because THAT is the Gospel.It is not good news to you because you can't hear it.You believe in your religion.
Maybe you should point out how I am wrong, and while you are at it, why the Bible is wrong.
You are completely wrong as usual.
Thanks for that.
I don't compel anyone to say or write Yahoshua or any name.
No, it is not "clear and simple". You are going through an exercise in fantasy, by taking a Hebrew word and then translating it into Syrian, then re-translating it back into Hebrew, to take it from its beginning, where it meant "savior", to an end point where it supposedly means "The Lord saves" (or pick your favorite deity name).
Yahoshua (Gods is salvation) is his name clear and simple and you don't know it at all.
Originally posted by Lazarus Short
We know each other here as pseudonyms for the most part, and again for the most part, we don't know much about each others' theology, life history, education, career, ideology, standing with God, or the contents of their respective libraries. Everyone, please try to understand what the other person is saying, for there is too much "reading into" going on, and not just in this thread. Some of us like to study words, compare languages, and scriptures. Others prefer a direct, even mystical connection to God. Some are hearers, and others are doers. There is plenty of room for diversity in the body of believers, and some tolerance and LOVE indicate to the skeptics and scoffers that our Christian walks are genuine. You dishonor God with your needless arguments. Hammer out what it all means if you must, but do it with mutual respect.
He was constantly being harassed by the religious asking him questions trying to trap him in his answers to condemn him.Yet he never asked the ignorant questions(well once after they tried to corner him).He knew their hearts.These are the signs of what the scriptures say.They are a witness.
I have studied the scriptures much more than most.I am not a mystic in the least.I know what they say and what is their purpose.When I make a statement it is NEVER adversarial.There have been many lies spread for many centuries about the true nature of God.That is the nature of man.To be religious.I understand that very well having had that affliction.I am a man.But I am no longer a child.I have had those those childish ways put away and see clearly in the mirror.If I said I didn't I would be lying.
Some of us like to study words, compare languages, and scriptures. Others prefer a direct, even mystical connection to God.
So according to you, Paul was a great liar but somehow God forced him to write one thing that was true, which is that reading whatever he wrote would kill you.
Everything in the scriptures themselves have multiple levels of meaning and are types and shadows.HOWEVER they are not "doctrines" to be applied to life like a manual.They are only a witness to The Truth and the truth is man cannot live by those words they are the letters that kill as Paul observed so accurately .He knew this experience more than anyone.He said he was the chiefest of sinners(The most imperfect man).If you believe the scriptures he said it under inspiration of spirit so it was not hyperbole.Why was he so sinful.Because he was the most studied of the scriptures and he completely twisted them to fit his personal agenda.Making himself GOD.He became "an" abomination that makes desolate sitting on the throne of God claiming to be God.Just as all men will do to varying degrees and circumstances.
Modern Judaism, I don't think, is any help in figuring out what Jesus believed since it has been influenced by Christianity over the centuries.
Given that Christ was a Jew, we should be examining some of those other opinions in conjunction with scripture.
That in itself is an interesting debate . . .
Consider a quote from the Zohar, a mystical work studied intensely by Jewish sages.
“The narratives of the doctrine are its cloak. The simple look only at the garment—that is, upon the narrative of the doctrine; more they know not. The instructed, however, see not merely the cloak, but what the cloak covers.”
Read more: www.spiritofthescripture.com...
You are probably referring to 1 Corinthians 10:2,
Example: Paul refers to Moses and crossing the red sea, for a symbol of baptism.
. . . why our views/beliefs could possibly be so different as they both relate to God/Jesus.