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Uh Oh: Obamacare Exchanges May Also be Delayed

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posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 11:00 PM
The House of Representatives Oversight and Government Reform committee is hearing that those Oh So Wonderful health insurance exchanges may in fact be behind in preparations for the grand October 1st 'opening'.

It seems the boondoggle continues.

Other warnings are coming from officials close to the plan.

Warnings from ATS members have been discussed as well ever since the inception of the idea.

The entire PPACA may be in deep trouble.

The ones running the show can't seem to get on schedule.

Despite President Obama's propaganda machine telling us Obamacare is right on time, Reuters is reporting Obamacare exchanges could be delayed.

Two U.S. government officials warned on Wednesday that the launch of new state healthcare exchanges could potentially be delayed, raising further doubts about the implementation of President Barack Obama's signature legislation.

Alan Duncan, an auditor with the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, an Internal Revenue Service agency that monitors performance, said testing the systems needed to implement the exchanges "will be difficult to complete" by the October 1 start date.

"The lack of adequate testing could result in significant delays and errors in accepting and processing ... applications for health insurance coverage," he told the House of Representatives Oversight and Government Reform committee.


The weak links of ObamaCare are rusting out and breaking already. They forgot to use stainless steel.

IF and when those goofy exchanges do open for business, watch out for the incompetence to be running wild.

I would hate to be a victim of some ill-trained bureaucrat's mistake. Then try to correct it by talking to another ill-trained bureaucrat.

What will the next 'surprise announcement' be ??

another related link has some possible hidden agenda explanations....
Stop the Jarrett Tax!

Who else has 'Had IT' ?

posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 11:12 PM
Obama care will be ultimately struck down. The reason is quite simple, there is no money to implement it. The federal government (obama) assumed that there would be a certain number of people that would subscribe to the plan, most of which were currently uninsured...... The whole system was dependent on a certain number of Americans that paid into it.

This has not only failed to happen, it has done so on an epic scale. The American people are rejecting this law in every facet and despite the executive branches ego, this will go down as one of the biggest failures in American presidential history.

Even if this isn't completely repealed, it will be unenforceable and is the laughing stock of the country. It is another lame attempt at socialist attempts to taint a republic. They say.... Democratic, they say if they had a son it would look like Trayvon, they say....... It's the neighborly thing to do........

It's all a lie. America is republic. AMERICA was born and bread to ensure the rights of EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN and protect their rights despite what anyone else thinks. When Obama says the "majority of Americans" first, he is lying and second, i't doesn't' really matter because the majority of Americans can't decide what the Bill of RIghts says or implies.

Insist that the federal government shut up and stop insisting that it has all this power. They have nothing and exploiting the interstate commerce clause only goes so far. The real power lies within the states. Start demanding that your state resists the federal government, even if that means reduced funding. I'm sure the states residence will pick up the slack if that state has the balls to stand up against blatant tyranny.
edit on 18-7-2013 by Helious because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 11:20 PM
Forcing people to buy healthcare was my first sign this wasn't going to work out so well.

I haven't been to a doctor in over a decade. The thought of being forced to buy something I may or may not need just in case is dumb. All while working a job for minimum wage not even reaching 35 hours a week.

If I could afford it, I would already have it.

For some reason Obama can't, or just plain won't accept the reality where the American people won't be nickle and dimed into even more financial ruin caused by an intrusive government that doesn't know how to balance a checkbook.

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 12:52 AM
This is truly going to be a nightmare, the complete irony in this
situation is that i have been saving up for some medical work i
need done and if i am just unlucky enough this whole situation
may well take the money i have been saving up for that medical
work and the insurance i could get would not cover the very work
i need, talk about swimming against the current......

If the IRS decides to fine me for not being able to afford health
insurance and i cannot get out of paying that fine without major legal
issues then the money i have saved for my WAY overpriced dental
work will have to go to the IRS, all the while dental work is barely
or not covered at all under 90% of the plans i could end up on......

I am just fed up never seeing an end to this BS, the costs for
healthcare continue to rise, wages are stagnant, no one wants
to compromise to actually fix things, its just one big cluster
um er bomb waiting to go off.
edit on 19-7-2013 by bloodreviara because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 09:58 AM
This was Proposition "E" On Missouri's State Ballot in November of 2012.

Yes Vote / Supporters

Missouri law will prohibit the Governor from issuing an executive order to establish a health insurance exchange. Missouri law will block state officials, agencies, and other stakeholders from working to implement a health insurance exchange without legislative authorization or voter approval. Proposition E would delay the creation of statebased health insurance exchanges in Missouri. The Governor should have specific authority from voters or the legislature before an exchange is implemented.

with it's summary...

Bottom Line
Federal law requires that Missouri have an operating exchange by January 1, 2014. Proposition E influences
who in Missouri will be involved in the design of the exchange and the timing of that involvement.

In the full and boring text, it actually OUTLAWS involvement as well as making it a crime to sanction or penalize any Missouri resident for failure to comply with any segment of the Affordable Care Act of 2009 .

We passed it.

Missouri State 2012 Results

... by a hair over 61% of the Statewide vote. It'll be a cold day in a hot place before our Gov. gets that authorization from the Statehouse, let alone the voters. He's tried ...and almost been laughed at openly.

So Obamacare can kiss my fuzzy white tail. Missouri is one of a few states to have literally outlawed his "signature legislation". Thanks to the other half of the Supreme Court decision Obama didn't seem to notice while so happy about the half that did go his way on this, states have every legal right to do this too.

Let the games begin with the implementation.
edit on 19-7-2013 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 10:05 AM
Are they still going to fine us?
Biggest scam/joke ever played on the American people.

Who wrote the Obama Health care reform bill?
In: Barack Obama, Healthcare Reform [Edit categories]
It was actually written by a number of people, some in the House and Senate, but others who were advisers to President Obama (like Ezekiel J. Emmanuel), and some who advised members of congress (like Elizabeth Fowler). Other influences included lobbyists from the healthcare industry; the former governor of Massachusetts (and Republican presidential candidate) Mitt Romney; MIT Economics professor Jonathan Gruber (a former aid to Mr. Romney and later an adviser to the Obama Administration); and Harvard Professor of Public Health John McDonough (also a former adviser to Mr. Romney, and later an adviser to several US senators).

Yup, I was right McCain and Romney both threw the elections,

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 10:13 AM
reply to post by Stormdancer777

Nobody knows for sure what will happen and who will change things.

The delays already have canceled out parts of the law.

The whole thing is a joke.

But the joke is on the public.

Another part that might be affected is the Medicaid expansion part.

I think the Supreme Court did in fact declare some of that partially unconstitutional.

The whole law is a Rube Goldberg chain.

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 10:39 AM
reply to post by xuenchen


posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:16 AM
reply to post by Stormdancer777

Here's some more 'facts'.....

As Obamacare was being pushed through Congress in 2010, the Obama administration and its allies were unequivocal in two claims: If you like your doctor and you like your current health care plan, you can keep them both. HHS Secretary Kathleen Sibelius and then-House speaker Nancy Pelosi backed the president fully in this regard. The White House even went so far as to post a "Health Insurance Reform Reality Check" on its website, where "Linda Douglass of the White House Office of Health Reform debunks the myth that reform will force you out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors." President Obama upped the ante, putting the promise in the form of a "guarantee":

Bu Bu B-U-T ...

While there has been sniping back and forth between the administration and its detractors about the real-world application and implementation of Obamacare, the new website has taken some of the mystery out of the controversy. And President Obama and his administration do not fare well in this latest "reality check." Among the questions that HHS recently added to the website: "Can I keep my own doctor?":

HHS Admits: You Might Not Be Able to Keep Your Doctor Under Obamacare

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:17 AM
reply to post by xuenchen

HHS Admits: You Might Not Be Able to Keep Your Doctor Under Obamacare

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:18 AM
reply to post by xuenchen

OH that's to funny we posted at the same time.

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:22 AM
Can't keep our doctor? but but but....

He sold us this jalopy of a health care system on his personal assurance we could! Oh.. You mean we shouldn't have believed him?

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by xuenchen

OH that's to funny we posted at the same time.

Ssshhhhh.....some people might think we are conspiring !

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:29 AM
It must be hard, being a tyrant these days.

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:32 AM

Originally posted by beezzer
It must be hard, being a tyrant these days.

LOL has he golfed lately?

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:33 AM
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

He hadn't read it remember?

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:33 AM
reply to post by xuenchen

From the Jarrett tax article you linked to, it sounds an awful lot like they are trying to run it the same as social security, which just transfers money from those who are still working to those who are retired or disabled.

If they could only get control of the "For Profit Medical Industry", something may get accomplished, if it isn't reined in somehow it will absolutely never work.

The cost of necessities does need to be regulated, for the common welfare as stated in the preamble to the constitution.

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:44 AM
reply to post by MyHappyDogShiner

The cost of necessities does need to be regulated, for the common welfare as stated in the preamble to the constitution.

Regulating the costs of medical services would be a tough issue to accomplish.

Many would agree it's indeed 'necessary', but remember the large corporations that seem to 'own' the medical system are some of the most powerful corporatists in the history of the world so far.

On the other hand, it would be the insurance companies that would need to reduce their costs because they pay the majority of the 'bills'.

Perhaps some day a genuine free market of supply and demand vs. 'ability' to pay for insurance policies and services will do some self correcting.

Government intervention never seems to get to the finish line with regulations and mandates.

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:44 AM

Originally posted by xuenchen

Who else has 'Had IT' ?

Oh... I've had it.

The thing about this whole ObamaCare debacle that I'm not sure others have ran into yet is the changes made by insurance companies this year under the excuse of "coming into line with PPACA rules".

I have had the same insurance company for many years. This year has been the biggest paperwork headache & the most out-of-pocket expenses we have ever incurred. And every time something else pops up out of no where the excuse is PPACA.

I've never liked Obamacare. It's bloated piece of garbage. I've always believed the only, only, reason it was passed was to make more money for the insurance companies and their shareholders. And now look. They are changing their coverage so customers have to pay more out-of-pocket just so they can be "in compliance" with a law that will never be implemented.

Obamacare is nothing but swindle.

posted on Jul, 19 2013 @ 11:47 AM
reply to post by OneisOne

Obamacare is nothing but swindle.

That would be my guess.

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