Magnetism Can Alter Morality and Decision Making

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posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 12:47 AM
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There is no benefit for mankind to continue existing as he exists today when he cannot even respect his own kind, his own planet. He is a carnal species that just happens to have learned how to play with fire. people keep repeating to me that there is good in the world. Where? most of it is selfish association but when i become associated with ET involvement, I am treated as an outsider, like dirt even though a soul can come in the body of many forms. instead of trying to convince me that mankind is worthy of anything but changing the current template of life of earth, he tries to manipulate my mind into thinking otherwise. this doesn't cut it.

I may very well die, but no part of this life is satisfying to me. i hope the few i care about do not waste tears because I have seen my future self... and she is far from human. what my present mind can hold in wisdom is nothing compared to what i have seen. i have things to see in this lifetime still... obviously or i wouldn't still be here, but i know it waits for me and i am not afraid. meanwhile, I'm surrounded by monkeys who play with their bananas and think they can convince me that i should be impressed and try harder to make connections with them. Not only do i not need to, I have no desire to. Bored, backed into a very small corner and very unimpressed... you can rest assured my desire lies elsewhere.

there are a few kindred spirits that i do not want to lose track of, which is really what it's all about... but this brain doesn't have the ability to recall... to transcend the veil. It is inferior. Outside of grasping to keep those few that are here close, I would make no hesitation to accept a new form if that is what it would take to be in the presence of his understanding. i was hoping to wear this old coat out for a while... for what it's worth... but you gotta do what you gotta do...and here, i'm being shown no option and no kindness.

the form is elegantly frightening. I have no idea what the terms are but if this has all been about having the right to step foot on planet earth and like i firmly believe, trying to give man a chance... then i'm afraid you guys are in for a hard time.

Read your bible. Angels come from Heaven. They come from the sky and they can read your mind. They are the reapers of the Earth and bring the suffering and judgment of those who interfere with the highest love... and that is exactly what man has done.

this hominid is a failure as a steward of the earth and is not fit to carry the sacred science of the universe without destroying themselves in the process.

sure, it's OCCASIONALLY been fun... a barrel full of monkeys to be exact but what is going on here is getting rude and stupid and we'll all have the chance to do it again... just not in this form, because this form can not seem to get their egotistical heads of of their smelly rears and be nice. You really can't deny what a bore this is.

You may think i'm wrong and that what i've seen is incorrect but I live it and so do many others.

Every past hominid is dead. don't ever forget that. You know what they say about omelets.

It's too bad. I still think some people have potential, but look at the world. Look at the mess.

It's high time for a totally new plan although we have gained a lot of information from this endeavor.




posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 02:16 AM
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I would you have to agree with you on this, and I do believe we will have another chance but am not to sure how all that is going to go down. I always refer to the ants collapsing our egos and working together is how we should be running things........I also believe there were times where man has achieved this such as the times of building huge structures like the pyramids for instance. When we all work together great things can be accomplished.



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 02:22 AM
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You'll think about this each time you see a person with a mobile phone...constant brain manipulation



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 06:58 AM
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These signals, primarily in the ULF (ultra-low-frequency) and ELF frequency range, have been recorded on a variety of equipment by several researchers and are in the process of being analyzed. During the many months these signals have been broadcast, they have been transmitting TWENTY-FOUR hours a day.


Sounds like they're detecting the Schumann resonances, not HAARP or some kind of "mind control" transmission.

en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 11:44 AM
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morality isn't the only thing affected by magnetism




A google search couldn't find any reference to the very ancient belief that a lodestone applied to the head allowed one to hear the gods.

Maybe if you were to do a search now, it would come up with this ats post of mine



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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This would mean that the Sun effects us more than we know. A large flare may trigger strange behavior in animals and people.



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 02:25 PM
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I don't disagree, really, with anything you have said there. Remember, in my last post to you, I acknowledged, as we had already both mentioned, that obviously some souls, spirits and humans seem to be more inclined, no matter the circumstances of their lives, to do the worse, rather than exhibit the better character traits and qualities of living life.

And much like you, I've met in my fifty years very few people I am interested in engaging with, and really trust no one at this point. On a big picture level, society appears, worldwide, to be becoming more and more "aberrant," for want of a better word, and less and less considerate, empathtic and tolerant of its members. People increasingly seem to feel that once they are hurt by someonoe, it justifies them lashing out at another--doesn't even matter if it's the one who hurt them or judged them initially. People increasingy reflect and behave they way they are treated by others, and cruelty is evident in our species, on a very large, overt scale, daily.
In this way, you are right: we are losing the battle for our minds, souls and very existence.

But, I try to look at some of the reasons this may be: and I believe a very big part of it is what this thread is about: mind manipulation and control, from personal levels to societal levels, again with a goal of total world domination.

Now as to why there is so much interest in domination, you, I suppose, would have to look at any individual: We are a sensory motivated being. Mostly, we avoid pain, fear, lack of freedom or imprisonment, etc.... Ergo, the need to control, so that you are experiencing what is more pleasurable to you. Of course, it's more complicated than t his, but I'm just suggesting some really simple motivations people seem to exhibit when engaged in control, their environment, the events in their lives which are largely propelled by their relationships with others.
Now that's assuming a fairly "normal," (again, for lack of better word) personality type. Sociopathic behavior is entirely different, and the structures that have arisen from mind control have reaffirmed and provided a system where one has to almost be sociopathic, in order to succeed. It is why many actually believe that being evil (wish I had better words) will always be more beneficial to the individual than not compromising or not choosing to exploit or manipulate others for their own gain, or even pleasure. One must also take into account that sociopaths actually have no guilt mechanism. It doesn't seem to even occur to them.

But winning and losing, as we define it narrowly here in this life, may be completely opposite. Have you ever thought that? In fact, in the Bible, it is said, can't remember which book,
"but no one considers, that those that are taken are saved from the great suffering to come."

I said myself earlier, I frequently define this reality as hell. It seems almost everything that is communicated societally is a lie, and built upon a mountain of other lies. And I'm not even sure I'd want to know what being
"successful" in this current paradigm would look or feel like. And truthfully, it all seems pretty rigged, especially considering the thread topic.

In short, I, much like you, have lost my faith that mankind is basically good. And I see nature even beginning to mirror this, and I believe there is some manipulation going on there as well. The food chain, itself, is pure exploitation for survival. I'm not convinced it was always this way, but have certainly watched it become more and more this way for quite some time.

However, I truly see this as due to intense manipulation by the few, of the many and even of the earth, itself, and other animal species. But I don't think this is the end of the journey, and recognizing, resisting the manipulation and finding ways to survive but somehow stay true to a higher purpose is the test here. I don't know that we will "win" on a "group" scale. But if you do believe in Jesus, part of the point of his life and death, was that just the sacrifices of one, and their honor and character and regard for their brethren, despite what they may do, can save
many others.
Tetra



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 02:44 PM
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A directed-energy weapon (DEW) emits energy in an aimed direction without the means of a projectile. It transfers energy to a target for a desired effect. Intended effects on humans may be non-lethal or lethal. These effects have been categorised as physical, physiological and psychological.[1] DEW's are used on people who are the targets of operations such as Information Operations (Info Ops) by countries including the UK and the USA.[2][3] Info Ops are stated to be used by militaries domestically as well as abroad.[4][5][6]
The technology has been available for several decades in the United States Department of Energy National Laboratories,[7] NATO and Czech Ministry of Defence.[8]
The energy can come in various forms:
Electromagnetic radiation, in lasers or masers
Particles with mass, in particle-beam weapons (technically a form of micro-projectile weapon)

Sound, in sonic weapons


I don't often cite wiki for referential material, but I found this link interesting as it does show an actual "denial" or protective device mounted on a military humvee, which, I think, adds to the credibility to the existence of what is being dicussed here.
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posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 02:54 PM
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Court Recognizes Electronic Harassment: Documents from the Walbert Case

[url=http://ce399.typepad.com/weblog/james-walbert/]Link[/url

Even though this is essentially a blog, it shows the court documents of this man's case, and tells his story of taking his electronic harassers to court and winning.



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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The EMF emissions from the brain can be decoded into current thoughts, images and sounds in the subject's brain. It sends complicated codes and electromagnetic pulse signals to activate evoked potentials inside the brain, thus generating sounds and visual images in the neural circuits. With its speech, auditory and visual communication systems, RNM allows for a complete audio-visual brain to brain link or a brain-to-computer link.

Of course, the mechanism needs to decode the resonance frequency of each specific site to modulate the insertion of information in that specific location of the brain. RNM can also detect hearing via electromagnetic microwaves, and it also features the transmission of specific commands into the subconscious, producing visual disturbances, visual hallucinations and injection of words and numbers in to the brain through electromagnetic radiation waves. Also, it manipulates emotions and thoughts and reads thoughts remotely, causes pain to any nerve of the body, allows for remote manipulation of behaviour, controls sleep patterns through which control over communication is made easy. This can be used for crime investigation and security management.




Some may question the validity of the source of this article, but if combined with reading deepthought.newsvine, which has harder core science and medical evidence sourced and explained, it is an interesting read.



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 07:19 PM
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Hmm.. makes you peek at porn in a different light. Thales correctly thought that the world was suspended in something from his observation of throwing wood into a river, (granted it wouldn't have worked if he'd thrown a rock in but hey.) Speaking of rocks and more to the point, he (Thales) had a brilliant theory that rocks were animate, i.e. sentient beings, given the criteria governing animation, i.e. the ability of an agent to move another agent. Perhaps this is just galvanistic serialism or Hegelianism..



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 07:28 PM
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Not sure the ants work together, is their not a fat ant and worker ants like a queen bee and drones? Herodotus (not the best source after discussing ants!) claimed the pyramid building kings were despised, at least comparatively comparing the successor who abandoned such projects.



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by iLoGiCViZiOnS
I would you have to agree with you on this, and I do believe we will have another chance but am not to sure how all that is going to go down. I always refer to the ants collapsing our egos and working together is how we should be running things....I also believe there were times where man has achieved this such as the times of building huge structures like the pyramids for instance. When we all work together great things can be accomplished.


Interesting that you mention the pyramids because I think this was a transitional moment. There's something very mysterious & unexplained about the pyramids and ancient Egypt. I just don't think man can take credit for this, he can't even explain it now.

From what we have learned, there is some meticulous science going on there, not just in structure but people have mentioned resonance & other things that suggest we don't even understand the full purpose of the pyramids at all.

Obviously, these sciences are not ours. We may be scratching the surface in modern times but it seems that everything we know was built upon an ancient wisdom... of an unidentified source. To see man exalt himself the way he does, is sickening. The science of tapping into brain waves is just another example. Like I said, it's hijacked tech... that they are now using as a weapon against people.

You got people who will thump their bibles all day but when it comes to admitting that what is says is than man is inferior... all of the sudden some of the most devout will even try to change the words.

The very same people who talk all this demon business, you'd think would be the first to believe in angels... but they act like they have no idea. No idea what so ever that the messiah that they wait for brings an army of angels out of the sky * it's angels who to reap the Earth. They just pretend like that part doesn't exist. It is the most important warning that man was given. A gift to him... that he could try to work together like you say, that he could establish a place of honor ... and in the end the words says behold that man and Elohim dwell the Earth together.

I agree, some get it. Some can understand what teamwork is instead of "I'M THE BEST, LICK MY BOOT"
but look at what they are doing here. They rip everything off, put a copyright on it, turn it into a weapon.
The people who can admit their flaws, try to humble and discipline themselves, try to understand this life... they've got this huge obstacle in the way and it's all these other megalomaniacal people who are perpetuating war and destroying the Earth.

The bible mentions being relieved when a death occurs and saddened by a birth. That's not exact words but I know what it means. For so many, this life is nothing more than emptiness... madness as far as the eye can see.
People know this in their hearts but they trudge along for the ones they love. Many they have known in ages past, they can no longer remember. They have no idea. They just medicate their way through this empty evil life.
I've got no more interest in any cheap thrills and I know that there are ones who have served in the highest who are waiting for us. What can compare to that?

They have been perpetuating this lie for decades and so many of their capabilities that they even keep from us... are nothing more than stolen. Ripped off of timeless wisdom without so much as even a Thank You.

This all had to be. Time & time again they prove that there is something deeply disturbed with the human race.

Some are ok, but we are not all the same. Something must prod us to a higher level of thinking and feeling and I'm afraid it's going to have to be by ridding ourselves of the unsavory parts of our society.

Sometimes illnesses can be easily remedied, done away with. Sometimes the illness is hard to dig out, eliminate. It knows how to protect itself, put up it's defensive, sequester like it has a right to be- a right to call the shots.

More drastic measures would have to be taken because that can't simply be swept off the street.

Change is due, society is backwards, people are thoughtless and shallow until something jars them awake... rattles their world.

I do not condone the commencement of destruction- not when I have kept to myself all day and been away from people. Catch me in one of my numerous moments of endless aggravation and I might be playing a different tune, because I'm telling you, this world is not letting up on me & I'm one of many.

...I try to be forgiving but sometimes diseases are self limiting.

I'd want to tell the youth of today, If you are one that has received a recent invitation to sign up for weapons technology training, this is no coincidence and is parallel to things that are happening, don't be one of their fools and engage... but then again, if that's the kind of people society is bringing up into the world we're already behind the 8 ball. Let's see them do their worst yet!



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by tetra50
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Tetra


Of course I have thought of that. It's the so called paying it forward thing. It's the whole reason that even though I struggle in life and can't seem to get anywhere because I'm stuck in a situation right now that is compromising in a few various ways, you don't see me up in some mans bed trying to get him to take care of everything for me... since I cannot be with the one I truly love.

Do you know how many people I know who are married simply because they couldn't support themselves alone?

I don't walk that walk just to brag about it. I could certainly get a man to ease my discomfort in life... and I could certainly keep him too so long as I never let my principle get in the way.

It's the same difference and I could give many examples that are not about relationships. Good things come to those who wait, now mind you... I've been there and done all that because I HAVE seen the good in others to be that interested, but that was in a time when it was easier for me to overlook the root of a situation. At the end of the day, many of us really don't know what the hell we are doing and it's important to realize this at some point in your life and start observing. You might be surprised at what you've overlooked.

People are always looking for an easy way out, but there's a moment when some of us stop and say "this isn't right"... it's called SHIRKING if you ignore it.

It could also be akin to doing things right the first time, which is usually the harder way... to get a better outcome.
You sacrifice your time, apply tedious patience and get better results.

Don't you think I have asked a million times why I feel I am separated from one that I am closest to and on our mission, we had to be divided. Did I do something to deserve this or was I being spared of the torture that I believe he endured? Is this something that is supposed to make me have some grand epiphany because to me, it all just sucks.

Life should be an equilibrium of work and sacrifice scaled against the things you love and make you happy.
Are you telling me that you're under the impression that I am one to SHIRK? And that I don't get the concept of paying my spiritual dues?

How am I using any of this time here to make things easier on myself? There's no telling how many military or government types I've pissed off. Free masons want to hold me down and slap male respect into me.

Have I ever thought of that?..????!!!

I can't believe you would even ask me such a question as though you are saying I'm just looking for a picnic through life.

I want ONE THING for my own personal desires. ONE THING.

I'd like to see a lot of things for the happiness of the entire world but for *me*__ ONE THING.

If he is on the other side of the veil I am not afraid to die to try to find him. That is how much it means.

I just don't know if that is the right way, but I think it is ONE way.

Look... I have no idea why you asked me that but I don't like the tone of it at all... as if I am just some stupid person who cannot conceive of what it means to be "deserving"

Tell me, just how much blood does one have to bleed to be entitled to a little happiness?

You keep talking about individual plights, in so many words but it seems like you are really not connecting the dots at how all this came to concern me. I told you, because of him I went onto a list and now they use the very technology that a person like him is capable of to pry into minds and further their agenda that will continue to keep us apart. Me, him... All of us. This harassment is all tied to this. It comes from him, but if they could not tap into my brain, they'd have me in an institution any way. His wisdom laid a path.

It is the most disrespectful debasement of love on the highest level... a total lack of appreciation for ones who have sacrificed their lives to bring understanding and warning to humankind.

That's my fight. That will ALWAYS be my fight and the only way that you will effectively psychologically contend with me is to prove me wrong. Not in mere words. in deed. in action. Not 1 person in control can admit the truth, have the courage to open and look inside the box. He is a key that unlocks a door to the entire truth, but to me he is even more... simply for being.

If he COULD BE HERE... He would.

Where is he?... because I know he's around. A little bit of info can be dangerous.

How many people will he literally have to go through to get here?

Every thing he gave to man laid out a path that could potentially divert all this destruction, but I'm afraid... I've ALWAYS been afraid that some things you just can't change. People want what they want. I want what I want, my hearts desire. You talk about paying a price for what you are to receive. You might be surprised at the price I would pay.



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 10:22 PM
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I haven't even read your entire reply to me. I'm halfway through your indignant anger at something I supposedly asked you that I am not aware of. Do I think you are SHIRKING anything....what in the world have I written that would give you such an impression. In fact, I pmed you a short time ago bc you had not replied to my own replies to you, and thought I had offended in some way. Obviously, this was the case. But now, reading this from you, I am COMPLETELY LOST.

I don't recall bringing up relationships, having or sacrificing by not having them.....so please enlighten me.....perhaps there is someone else posting under my account name and I cannot see....WTF?
Respects,
Tetra50



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by tetra50
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I haven't even read your entire reply to me. I'm halfway through your indignant anger at something I supposedly asked you that I am not aware of. Do I think you are SHIRKING anything....what in the world have I written that would give you such an impression. In fact, I pmed you a short time ago bc you had not replied to my own replies to you, and thought I had offended in some way. Obviously, this was the case. But now, reading this from you, I am COMPLETELY LOST.

I don't recall bringing up relationships, having or sacrificing by not having them.....so please enlighten me.....perhaps there is someone else posting under my account name and I cannot see....WTF?
Respects,
Tetra50


First... I replied to your pm.

Second... that's what the hell I would like to know.

Why in the world are you asking me question like Have I ever thought about the bible verse you brought up.

What does that have to do with me?... Or the subject at hand? That is exactly what I'm trying to figure out.

The examples I gave are simply examples of not shirking meaningful things in this life.

At the end of my post I begin speaking of someone I often refer to but not by name and I have been trying to tell you the entire time that the whole reason I have been followed was because when I was very young I was visited by an extraterrestrial who has done scientific things for various governments and became wanted by the US government during all the cold war stuff before they started the disinfo campaign involving Scientology in the early 80s and portraying abductions in popular books and movies in the 80s.... during the Reagan administration.

He's done more for this country than anyone.

I guess you missed all that but yeah... this was part of his tech that they hijacked (he's a telepath) and are now using it against people... even his own contactees. Because they RIP EVERYTHING OFF... try to be him, yet do it while demonizing him.

They're really just jealous and afraid of his tech.

Anyway... I guess that all flew you past you.

Don't call my man a demon.

Talk about adding insult to injury. Hasn't he suffered enough persecution after doing so much for ungrateful humans?

I don't even want to be involved with most people enough to pass judgment on them but they practically beg for it when they stand in people's way. If he steps foot on this ground, all hells going to break loose. I'll be happy, but I'm telling you and I'm telling everybody else... all hell will break loose.

There are already people in the government who talk to him because not everybody is like this... not everybody is so eager to shoot at anything that moves, especially if it competes for power.
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posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 11:14 PM
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Look... I have no idea why you asked me that but I don't like the tone of it at all... as if I am just some stupid person who cannot conceive of what it means to be "deserving"

Tell me, just how much blood does one have to bleed to be entitled to a little happiness?

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Perhaps I am a total dolt....I do not know what I asked you that prompted this diatribe......
I know all about the bleeding,, however, believe me, and have the scars to prove it, as well......
No offense on my part was ever intended. Evidently I have somehow touched a very bad nerve, and do not even know how. You have referred to an "agenda" on my part in private messages. This hurts me severely.
You have absolutely no idea how much. For I, too, have been and lived someone else's agenda my entire lives and others before.....and stand against every suggestion of anyone living anyone else's agenda.
Respectfully,
Tetra50



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 11:25 PM
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Oh, I see. It is about the bible verse, which was really not aimed at you in such a way as you seem to have taken it.

See my introduction as a member. Perhaps you will then understand my "lack of agenda," and how I have been used my entire life for others' agendas.

I know nothing about what you speak of ....."your man, the extraterrestrial....." nor do I doubt your feelings or history with this info. But I come from where I come from, and you from where you do. These things may not mesh, at all, and yes, much of what you have expressed now totally flew over my head.

Wanna know partly why? We have different experiences. It's as simple as that. I am simply a labrat, a hamster on a wheel, spinning......I have to do the best within that circumstance that I can.
Anything that I said to you in regards to the bible was certainly not in any direct, personal judgement of your situation, as if you read your own responses to me, not that much was revealed there or how important it was to you. Nor is it my place to interpret or judge it.

I do not wish to get into some kind of war with you on something like this. Many have suffered, incredibly. I think we both agree upon that. What if I told you my children have been held hostage my entire life for my complicity? Do I have an AGENDA????? F@#ck's sake. We all have our special circumstances, my love, for better or worse. What if I told you I am linked, intrinsically, karmically, with a man through many lifetimes, who despises me, tortures me, holds those children hostage, might even be their father, but I have to pretend in
"real time" to love him, have regard for him, and through Stoickholm Syndrome, denied any love in my life ever, am bereft of any resistance to this, though I cry and wonder and grieve for my children daily?

There is much, much suffering. I pointed nothing personally that I wrote at you. Sorry you took it that way.
I have now repeatedly tried to apologize, and all while living as a targeted individual, waking up with bite marks and bruises on my face, daily.

Sorry, can't handle it, now that we've accused me of some "agenda" or other. My "agenda" is tolerance, understanding, love, the pursuit of knowledge of respect for every living thing that is compromised by their very circumstances, way beyond their control.
Regards,
Tetra50



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by tetra50



Look... I have no idea why you asked me that but I don't like the tone of it at all... as if I am just some stupid person who cannot conceive of what it means to be "deserving"

Tell me, just how much blood does one have to bleed to be entitled to a little happiness?

reply to post by NotAnAspie
 


Perhaps I am a total dolt....I do not know what I asked you that prompted this diatribe......
I know all about the bleeding,, however, believe me, and have the scars to prove it, as well......
No offense on my part was ever intended. Evidently I have somehow touched a very bad nerve, and do not even know how. You have referred to an "agenda" on my part in private messages. This hurts me severely.
You have absolutely no idea how much. For I, too, have been and lived someone else's agenda my entire lives and others before.....and stand against every suggestion of anyone living anyone else's agenda.
Respectfully,
Tetra50


I have no idea why that would hurt you. That's pretty strange. I made it clear to you that in everything people do, they have an agenda. I am trying to make my agenda clear to you... so there will be no confusion, because I can admit I have an agenda and I wish others would do the same.

You started relating to my posts and then said extraterrestrials were demons... and I didn't even ask you that.

I think anybody who has been following this or anything I have ever written would understand that I don't think you really know enough about it to make that claim... and yes, I find it offensive on a personal level but don't have time tel you all my experiences with this. People say it all the time on here because they either want to spread disinfo... or they just like aggravating people like me who they know will taken offense to it. I get used to it and learn to overlook it but here's someone relating to everything I say then drops the "D" word on me... and making me re[eat myself over and over about why you are saying all this to me. All these questions and psychological points to ponder like it's specifically directed to me... and not really the thread.

I don't know what your bag is... that's what 'm trying to figure out. Why are you making all these motions to relate to my words after calling ETs demons? It's kinda funny at this point because you still don't seem to be picking up on why I think this is getting kind of annoying.

The topic of alien tech is very much related to this topic... as is the fact that the government has displayed an elaborate disinfo campaign to the point where they feel the need to get inside people's heads.

That's why I brought that up, but then when you "went there with the D word" I think I made it clear that I don't like people who do that when they have absolutely nothing to go on, but you kept talking to me asking me things like Have I ever thought that winning and losing was totally opposite in circumstances. Sure, I have... but why are you telling ME?. like you are trying really hard to relate to me psychologically and I think I have every right to question why you are doing that and have deviated so far from the topic.

MY AGENDA... Is to tell people that the government is trying to get people to think and do a bunch of dumb crap (like that aliens are demons... thank you free masonry, Scientology etc etc) because they are afraid of losing power... and it's working. They are going to get people hurt with propaganda. They are going to get young people fighting for them who do not know better.. killed with their mind games and propaganda.

I could go into MANY details as to how they use mind control for disinfo.

As for winning really being losing... That's not any kind of excuse for any of us to bend over and take this crap.



posted on Jul, 20 2013 @ 11:56 PM
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And never did I say it was. I don't suggest anyone should "bend over and take this crap."

My agenda: I want to know where every child I gave birth to is.....I want my mind freed from crap being pumped into it daily. My agenda: I want people to have true choices again.

Frankly, I've already told you, I pay a price every time I post about this crap. Look back at the thread....your suggestion, actually, showing you are concerned about how others' perceive, for it will somehow bear out whatever you are trying to portray me as......

You engage ME. Not the other way around. Around pg. 2 of this thread. A member interested in solid sources of documents I had requested me to end this with you and provide the sources, as what was going on between us was so off topic.

I know you don't wanna know what I think: but here it is, anyway. I've been respectful. I've been decent. There are many possibilities, OBVIOUSLY, when you are talking about mind control. You could be right about ETS, and I could be right, or it could be a combination......for with mind control, and a simulated, perpetuated, predicated, simulated environment and mind, you cannot any longer trust ANYTHING, any PERCEPTION, any viewing, hearing, any EMPIRICAL evidence of any thing, whatsoever.

And this is my last to you. As I have said, I have bent over backwards, apologizing, trying to explain, whatever.....I'm over it. There are many of us who suffer, including you.....but I think you may have lost sight of the idea that many of us are held hostage by whom we love and are forced to live the way we do, and fight and pay a price, just LIKE YOU........

And what gives you the frigging right, anyway, to judge, anymore than me? And I say that constantly, and try my hardest to NOT JUDGE, to not offend, to not reject the stories of others....
AGENDAS????


that word alone, told me a whole story. Sorry. I may agree most have one, but not everyone. And you have completely misjudged me. And it's starting to feel like a total set up. For instance, where the f#@ck is the OP?
Haven't seen a reply since he started the thread. And you almost courted me in that first response to me, like a study on vulnerability of someone who is isolated......
nevermind. My face hurts. Sorry. Lost a week's pay last night, and have a giant bloody bruise on my forehead, so I can listen to this CRAP????

Hope you join whomever it is you are separted from, truly, and that EMF influences in your life are bearable. If you were really suffering from that day to day, second to second, piped in and piped out, I doubt you could get it up to attack me with such vehemence over a totally mistaken perception that I was somehow preaching to you.
ONLY ONE OF YOUR POSTS mentioned an ET......and I was supposed to deduce all this crap?
And now you unleash some diatribe.

Okay.
Have a good time ATS. It's time I left this place for good.
It's clearly not worth my personal risks and sacrifices.....
Tetra





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