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This points out the most obvious hole in your theory that electromagnetism explains all forces ...
The mathematics of the four forces is not some abstract fantasy but comes from observed and measured physics. We can apply the mathematics to understand exactly the magnitude and direction of the forces and can confirm that those forces always act as calculated.
Originally posted by joer4x4
reply to post by chr0naut
According to the gravity math the glass should be attracted to the larger mass object. However this is not true in the real world. No matter what you do the glass will always fall down only. Even if a larger mass object is closer and off to the side of the glass, the glass will pass it and fall down.
Originally posted by chr0naut
Originally posted by joer4x4
reply to post by chr0naut
According to the gravity math the glass should be attracted to the larger mass object. However this is not true in the real world. No matter what you do the glass will always fall down only. Even if a larger mass object is closer and off to the side of the glass, the glass will pass it and fall down.
If we assume that the piece of glass weighs 1 kg, the 'large mass' weighs 100,000 kg (100 Tonnes) and they are 1 meter apart, then the gravitational force between them is given by the equation:
Force = Gravitational Constant * Mass 1 * Mass 2 / distance between the centers of the masses ^2
(Note: the gravitational constant = 6.67384 × 10-11 m3 kg-1 s-2)
So, the force (in Newtons) = 6.67384 × 10-11 * 1 * 100,000 / 1^2
= 0.0000000000667384 * 100,000 / 1
= 0.00000667384 Newtons
This is TINY especially when compared with the force between the glass and a close and much larger mass, the Earth, which weighs in at a mass of 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg and is 6,371 km from the Glass (at sea level) giving an attractive force of 9.8 Newtons.
Which do you believe is going to have the greatest effect on the glass? The attraction to the 100 T mass at less than a ten thousandth of a Newton or the attraction to the Earth at 9.8 Newtons?
It is your avoidance of the mathematics which shows how easily you are led astray by the inadequacy of your experience and knowledge.
edit on 23/7/2013 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by joer4x4
I would expect it to fall down. No matter where the greatest mass is it can only fall down.
Your math is correct but it lies to you. Why? The glass or any other object will always fall down any weight, size, or distance. Now one has ever successfully performed a gravity experiment in space, an accelerator, or anywhere to show gravity can pull an object in any other direction but down.
In the example in my last post you need a Mass 3 in your calculation and the greater mass may be in any direction but down.
If the theory and the math were correct it should work in any direction. It should be noted that electromagnetic force works in all directions on earth, space, or a vacuum.. Here the math is correct and can be physically duplicated.
Stop using the excuse that I am not knowledgeable, unfamiliar with math, and inexperienced.
Prove your math in the real world. Let's observe the phenomena. It is the scientific way to do things.
If you know of an experiment - please let me know.