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New Talking Point: Was Trayvon the Bigot Because He Thought Zimmerman Was Gay?

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posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 01:09 PM
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This is a shocker, if true.

Apparently, on CNN's Piers Morgan the other night, Rachel Jeantel admitted that she told Trayvon Martin that Zimmerman could be a gay rapist...and that he should run away. While this info. did come out during her testimony in the trial...it was lost to the media in the wake of her testimony that Martin called Zimmerman a "creepy-ass cracker".

Obviously, Trayvon did not take her advice and run away from Zimmerman, instead (according to court records) Martin allegedly approached Zimmerman, where the two engaged in a physical confrontation, with Zimmerman allegedly being pinned and pummeled by Martin before Zimmerman pulled a gun and shot him.

Did Martin approach Zimmerman intending to give the "creepy-ass" 'gay' "cracker" a good beating...simply because he was offended...or homophobic?
This horrible incident ended tragically, with a young man losing his life...and it never should have happened.
Nobody in these articles is stating that Trayvon Martin intended to kill George Zimmerman when he allegedly approached him...implying only that he may have been planning on giving him a good "Whup-Ass" (Jeantel's words).

Blame the OP if you will for posting this news...but it's a story that is all over the Internet today.



In an interview with CNN's Piers Morgan on Monday night, Rachel Jeantel said she told Martin to run from George Zimmerman because he might be a rapist, during their phone call in the last minutes of Martin's life.

"For every boy or every man who’s not that kind of way, seeing a grown man following them, would they be creeped out?" she said.

This is not new. When Jeantel said the same thing in court in June, it didn't make much news—people were focused on her "creepy-ass cracker" description of Zimmerman instead of the rape angle.

But now, it's the main story on the Drudge Report. Limbaugh spent a good part of his radio show talking about it. Lots of conservative blogs picked it up. RELATED: My Star Witness Is Black: Rachel Jeantel's Testimony Makes Trayvon a Show Trial "JEANTEL WARNED ZIMMERMAN COULD BE GAY RAPIST" Drudge declared. "Jeantel opened up and let loose on the murder case that gripped that nation.

She explained to CNN's Piers Morgan how she warned her childhood friend that Zimmerman—could be a gay rapist!"

Drudge headlined Limbaugh's afternoon commentary.

Limbaugh said: RUSH: Do you understand, ladies and gentlemen, what she just said? Let me spell it out for you. When Trayvon described Zimmerman to her, "creepy ass cracka," she began to fear that Zimmerman was gay. A rapist. She then told Trayvon to run, run, run... "For every boys, or every man, every who's not that kinda way," meaning everybody who's straight, "see a grown man following them, would they be creep out?"

She's telling us the reason Trayvon Martin descended on Zimmerman and started pummeling him was because he was offended. He thought, because what she said to him, that Zimmerman was gay. Zimmerman got beat up because Trayvon thought he was gay.



news.yahoo.com...

More:
www.nationalreview.com...
www.theatlanticwire.com...
www.drudgereport.com...
dailycaller.com...
open.salon.com...
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posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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Wow! If any of that has any basis to it I guess old Holder and the DOJ are going to have to squash those supposed "violation of civil rights" charges they've been considering throwing on Zimmerman. Guess then their only option would be to come at him with the "child abuse" angle. Sad, but they will find something they can use to circumvent the Florida courts ruling I'm sure.



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 01:21 PM
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this case and all the outrage needs to stop! this is all by design to keep the public’s eye and ears away from what’s happening in Washington. Its also a nice breather for Obama and all his scandals. No one wants to talk about those when there is gay bashing and race bating



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 01:23 PM
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The verdict was handed down but this horsehockey will be relentless! Let's not stop though, I mean it's not as if there is anything more important in this world to dwell on...Right!!



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 01:27 PM
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Agreed...but tell this to the CBC and the Holder DOJ.



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 01:34 PM
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Ok, so first, this was a racially motivated crime because Martin was black, then it wasn't, now it's a hate crime?

Ok, lets just dump this crapfest of a story into the trash and be done, what other group needs to chime in and be offended?

Transexuals? Midgets?

Divide and conquer



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by IAMTAT
Did Martin approach Zimmerman intending to give the "creepy-ass" 'gay' "cracker" a good beating...simply because he was offended...or homophobic?


If that is what happened (and we'll never know what really happened) then that would make Martin guilty of a hate crime against homosexuals. (I hate the 'hate crime' thing ... but its on the books so I'll use it). But like I said, we won't ever know ...



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 01:54 PM
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It was Rachel who said he might be a pervert. Not Trayvon.

And you're listening to Rush... That explains it Rush needs a life.

I know there are a lot of stupid threads this week, but this one takes the prize! Congratulations!

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posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
It was Rachel who said he might be a pervert. Not Trayvon.

And you're listening to Rush... That explains it Rush needs a life.

I know there are a lot of stupid threads this week, but this one takes the prize! Congratulations!

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Rush has a life, a very prosperous one at that.
Im pretty sure, if said, it was probably sorta tongue in cheek, something to make the point that, if they want to get technical and nitpick, so can we.

And I dont know why this post turned out like that with the quotes
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posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 02:12 PM
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That old girl better get her lawyer on retainer.

Her @$$ is about to be put in a long line of others that are going to be sued.

Since she is probably going to lose then she had better get her checkbook ready.

Just like the rest of them.



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 02:12 PM
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interesting,

all this demonization of a dead kid,

and from a shopping list apparently

next up will be "evidence" of childporn on his phone

lots of BS being slung around
and lot's of ignorant people wallowing like pigs in it
especially the bigot crowd with their not too subtle high-fiving.



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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I wonder what it means when my kids call an inanimate object "gay"?. I think it is just a word used many different ways, like nigga. Why did not the grownup diffuse and leave? That murderer would have shot Trayvon in the back if he had ran. That is what cowards do.



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 02:25 PM
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Limbaugh said: RUSH: Do you understand, ladies and gentlemen, what she just said? Let me spell it out for you. When Trayvon described Zimmerman to her, "creepy ass cracka," she began to fear that Zimmerman was gay. A rapist. She then told Trayvon to run, run, run... "For every boys, or every man, every who's not that kinda way," meaning everybody who's straight, "see a grown man following them, would they be creep out?"

She's telling us the reason Trayvon Martin descended on Zimmerman and started pummeling him was because he was offended. He thought, because what she said to him, that Zimmerman was gay. Zimmerman got beat up because Trayvon thought he was gay.



It appears that Dr. Jeantel has wisdom.

It appears that Martin could have been 'profiling' Zimmerman via Dr. Jeantel's telephone diagnosis !!

Hmmm.

No wonder the mass media hysteria is virulently talking the other way.

Here is the 'wisdom' speaking.....
Did She take acting lessons ?

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posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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Zimmerman should claim to be gay, and say that Trayvon was trying to gay-bash him.

OH the fight of the century. In the left corner, from the victim class, mr martin, a violent drug addict and possible dealer

In the right corner, again from the victim class, mr zimmerman the gay mexican jew, an overzealous neighborhood watchman.

It's very obvious in this case that both zimmerman and martin were both victims. Why? Because blacks are always victims, and jews are always victims. To a lesser extent mexicans are always victims. If only he was gay, then he would be a super victim. I hear you get a prepaid debit card if you reach that level of victimized awesomeness.

I like how when people attack martin's character all the martin supporters cry and moan about attacking the character of a dead "kid" (if we try 13year olds as adults, shouldn't a 17 year old be considered man enough to make life and death choices involving screwing with an armed person who refuses to be a victim)

But they are the first people to attack zimmerman for any and everything they can. Hypocrites the whole lot of them. They don't seem to understand the law either, it took ages to get it through people's thick skulls that 911 dispatch are not cops, and have zero authority over you.

If you want to see a victim, you'll see a victim. Try taking the blinders off for a bit.

For all the little martin supporters who say what an awful man zimmerman is for "profiling" martin, if some wannabe-gangsta was sulking around your street would you go up and offer him a cup of hot chocolate, and treat him like a 5 year old. Because the way all the martin supporters paint trayvon is a poor little defenseless kid. He was 17, he isn't a kid.

Just because our legal system says you are a kid until 18 (unless they want to charge you as an adult, then even 12 year olds are adults to them) doesn't mean that people under the age of 18 should be thought of any differently than an adult. A large 17 year old boy is pretty close to his peak physical ability. Tie that together with the immature mind of a teen, and you get a dangerous package.

Anyone could easily tell you Trayvon physically outmatched Zimmerman. And the facts show martin's goal was NOT to "escape" from Zimmerman. It's a proven fact Martin had the chance to go back into his house, but chose to go attack zimmerman instead.

If someone is against zimmerman because they have a well developed opinion on the law and events (meaning, they are against stand your ground in general) at least I can understand their opinions. But people who are against zimmerman because of the "mean old white guy shot a poor little unarmed black kid" mindset you have, they just expose their own horrendous ignorance of the facts of the case. Man tries to protect his community and is assaulted by a homophobic racist 17 year old, and defends himself with a firearm. THOSE are the FACTS of the case. To a rational, reasonable, logical mind, facts ALWAYS win out over emotionally driven racially inspired hysteria.



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 02:43 PM
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Stupid why? We KNOW from all evidence that Zimmerman isn't a racist, but we have no idea if Martin was homophobic. Its totally possible that's what precipitated the physical confrontation, which of course lead to the shooting. I don't think this is "stupid" at all. You're confusing "stupid" with "doesn't support your side of the issue".



posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by TheMagus
interesting,

all this demonization of a dead kid,

and from a shopping list apparently

next up will be "evidence" of childporn on his phone

lots of BS being slung around
and lot's of ignorant people wallowing like pigs in it
especially the bigot crowd with their not too subtle high-fiving.


Generally, I might actually agree with you...HOWEVER...
In spite of the fact that a young man has tragically lost his life, been laid to rest and we have had a lengthy and extensive trial in which a defendant has been found innocent...

The Congressional Black Caucus, Barack Obama and Eric Holder's DOJ has decided that the case is not only officially STILL OPEN...but it is WIDE Open...

Add to the fact that Ms. Jeantel (star witness for the prosecution in the case) is now going on international news programs and talk shows volunteering new information to talk show hosts...

...means that new facts and new information regarding this case are still very germane.

Hell, the A.G. of the U.S. just announced the opening of a government hotline/website to collect NEW information related to civil rights violations in this already decided and supposedly closed case.




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posted on Jul, 17 2013 @ 09:10 PM
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It's not new information. People are just having a difficult time understand what she's trying to say.

Based on the video, she told Trayvon that she might be a rapist or something. That's it.


What did Trayvon say when Rachel said that Trayvon might be a rapist?

Trayvon: "Nah, stop playin with me like"

Does that make someone a gay basher? She said during the CNN interview that is what she told him, she is explaining what she meant by the comment "rapist" and that rapist who rape another male is gay. She doesn't know what Trayvon was thinking, so she can't say whether or not what was going through his mind.

There is no evidence to suggest that Trayvon attack Zimmerman first. The medical examiners can't even determine that. So to say this was a hate crime is real stretch. People need to take the time to understand what someone is saying before jumping to conclusions.
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posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 04:54 AM
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Why are you, OP, trying to dredge up rage against a teenager who was shot and killed by a creepy bully with a history of criminal charges? You're now trying to know what is the mindset of a now dead teenager? Seriously, shame on you and anyone else trying to make an issue of this. But clearly you have no shame.

Some people are claiming Florida's Stand Your Own Ground law had nothing to do with this case, but they are wrong: Trayvon Martin was standing his ground against Zimmerman, and because Martin didn't have firearm, he had every right to beat the crap out of Zimmerman, who was stalking him, as well as cracking Zimmerman's skull on the sidewalk. The fact that the prosecutors didn't use this angle just shows how incompetent and/or duplicitous they were. Martin was in fear for his safety and he was absolutely right. By Florida law he had the right to stand his ground and take on the freak following him. That Zimmerman first stalked him and then shot him, should have meant that he would be convicted of murder.



posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 05:01 AM
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Transexuals? Midgets?

Zimmerman was kinda short. Maybe he was wearing Woman's underwear. Serious questions .

Every cell in my body is offended by the very idea.



posted on Jul, 18 2013 @ 07:03 AM
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She needs to learn how to speak English .



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