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I love Pope Francis, especially his granting the indulgence for World Youth Day 2013 NOT the mocks here of the faith because they do not understand the gift of indulgences.
Pope Francis is making this first-time offer to the faithful who follow the events in Rio de Janeiro online.
Under Catholic belief, after confessing and being absolved of sin, the indulgences granted reduce the amount of time one spends in purgatory, where one's sins are weighed after death.
Under the Pope's new offer, those who follow the week's events on the Twitter feed can get a speedier transit through purgatory, hopefully on the way to heaven.
So what did the Vatican actually say that got the misinformed secular media into such a tizzy? Nothing new really… In a decree issued by the Apostolic Penitentiary granting special indulgences tied to participation in the 23rd World Youth Day in Rio, the special indulgences tied to the event were extended to those who lack the means and simply can’t make it to Rio, but instead participate whole-heartedly, but remotely using TV, Radio, and other forms of Media. The decree stated:
“The faithful legitimately impeded, are able to obtain ‘ Plenary Indulgence if, by complying with the usual spiritual, sacramental and prayer, with the purpose of filial submission to the Roman Pontiff, to participate spiritually in the sacred functions in certain days, provided follow these same rites and pious exercises while performing, or via television and radio, always with due devotion, through the new means of social communication”
So there you have it folks. Retweeting @Pontifex is not going to get you out of Hell, or Purgatory, despite what the media reports (or may be secretly hoping). So back to the drawing board in searching out a technicality that will get us into Heaven.
Here are the seven most common myths about indulgences:
Myth 1: A person can buy his way out of hell with indulgences.
This charge is without foundation. Since indulgences remit only temporal penalties, they cannot remit the eternal penalty of hell. Once a person is in hell, no amount of indulgences will ever change that fact. The only way to avoid hell is by appealing to God’s eternal mercy while still alive. After death, one’s eternal fate is set (Heb. 9:27).
Myth 2: A person can buy indulgences for sins not yet committed.
The Church has always taught that indulgences do not apply to sins not yet committed. The Catholic Encyclopedia notes, "[An indulgence] is not a permission to commit sin, nor a pardon of future sin; neither could be granted by any power."
Myth 3: A person can "buy forgiveness" with indulgences.
The definition of indulgences presupposes that forgiveness has already taken place: "An indulgence is a remission before God of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been forgiven" (Indulgentarium Doctrina 1, emphasis added). Indulgences in no way forgive sins. They deal only with punishments left after sins have been forgiven.
Myth 4: Indulgences were invented as a means for the Church to raise money.
Indulgences developed from reflection on the sacrament of reconciliation. They are a way of shortening the penance of sacramental discipline and were in use centuries before money-related problems appeared.
Myth 5: An indulgence will shorten your time in purgatory by a fixed number of days.
The number of days which used to be attached to indulgences were references to the period of penance one might undergo during life on earth. The Catholic Church does not claim to know anything about how long or short purgatory is in general, much less in a specific person’s case.
Myth 6: A person can buy indulgences.
The Council of Trent instituted severe reforms in the practice of granting indulgences, and, because of prior abuses, "in 1567 Pope Pius V canceled all grants of indulgences involving any fees or other financial transactions" (Catholic Encyclopedia). This act proved the Church’s seriousness about removing abuses from indulgences.
Myth 7: A person used to be able to buy indulgences.
One never could "buy" indulgences. The financial scandal surrounding indulgences, the scandal that gave Martin Luther an excuse for his heterodoxy, involved alms—indulgences in which the giving of alms to some charitable fund or foundation was used as the occasion to grant the indulgence. There was no outright selling of indulgences. The Catholic Encyclopedia states: "[I]t is easy to see how abuses crept in. Among the good works which might be encouraged by being made the condition of an indulgence, almsgiving would naturally hold a conspicuous place. . . . It is well to observe that in these purposes there is nothing essentially evil. To give money to God or to the poor is a praiseworthy act, and, when it is done from right motives, it will surely not go unrewarded."
Originally posted by IsidoreOfSeville
I sincerely hope this will clear things up about what an indulgence is and is not.
Originally posted by Sandalphon
It seems nonsensical why the RCC hasn't made their own membership site for indulgences. Why not skip purgatory altogether and be saved by Jesus? So in a way, Pope Francis is proving to the world of all the people who have yet to know what real salvation is not based on works of twittering, which earns him all he deserves with voluntary followers.
What next, telling them to twitter their prayers, in front of the whole world? If you need a computer to get less purgatory, something is wrong with the religion.
Originally posted by colbe
Originally posted by AntoniusBlock
98% of ATS hates the Church while only 2% understand it.
Oh, the pain of it. I'll keep posting, prophecy has said for 15 years in my reading, the Remnant is Roma Catholic. God wants everyone to become Roman Catholic.
Again, please disbelievers. Satan has infiltrated the Church, try to figure out the reason. Okay, another, why do Satanists mimic the Holy Mass with black masses? Why do they steal and desecrate consecrated hosts?
God bless you Antonius!!!
Originally posted by littled16
reply to post by colbe
Really? If an arch bishop has no problem with my religion (and I am a Southern Baptist) then you should certainly have no problem with it. We had really nice dinner conversation at the feast afterwards as well, and none of it involved religion whatsoever.
My mother's religion has nothing to do with mine- I am a grown woman, a mother and grandmother perfectly able to know my own heart and beliefs. Think what you like, I've no need for your approval.
Originally posted by joer4x4
"with the purpose of filial submission to the Roman Pontiff"
That clause is so "governmental".
#1. "The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God."
#13. "Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions."
#30. "The Pope is of so great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws."
But this authority, although it is given to man and is exercised by man, is not human, but rather divine, and has been given by the divine Word to Peter himself and to his successors in him, whom the Lord acknowledged an established rock, when he said to Peter himself: Whatsoever you shall bind etc. [Matt. 16:19]. Therefore, whosoever resists this power so ordained by God, resists the order of God [cf. Rom. 13:2] ... Furthermore, we declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that they by necessity for salvation are entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff.
...all the faithful of Christ must believe "that the Apostolic See and the Roman Pontiff hold primacy over the whole world, and that the Pontiff of Rome himself is the successor of the blessed Peter, the chief of the apostles, and is the true vicar of Christ and head of the whole Church and faith, and teacher of all Christians; and that to him was handed down in blessed Peter, by our Lord Jesus Christ, full power to feed, rule, and guide the universal Church, just as is also contained in the records of the ecumenical Councils and in the sacred canons.
You're right when you say that you don't need any of our approval, but what you do need is to find the fulfillment of the Christian faith that you profess, which can only be found in Christ's Church, the Church which He founded on Peter as the first pope.